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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 04:56 PM
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Is there ANYTHING our government does that's more pointless than the Cuba Embargo?
(Besides the fucking war, of course.)

And I really, REALLY wish that even ONE of our candidates would have the guts to say so. But or course, like any politician, they're in thrall to the Miami Cubans. Not as much as Republican politicians are, but still...

And, because there always seems to be a DUer or two who has the answer to any question I ask, can someone educate me on why the Miami Cubans still have such a fucking hard-on about Cuba, and are so adamant that we keep the embargo going?

I just don't get it.

Redstone
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 05:00 PM
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1. The Feds pay attention because they all live in Florida.
They think that they stand to inherit stuff taken from their parents or grandparents when the revolution came.
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 05:28 PM
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10. Thank you. That's pretty much what I suspected.
Redstone
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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 05:04 PM
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2. I'm sure there are plenty of pointless things they're doing.
But the Cuba embargo is bullshit, for sure.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 05:04 PM
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3. It's pretty pathetic
considering our endless kissing up to China and Saudi Arabia who have horrific records on human rights. Guess Cuba doesn't have anything we want so playing like we really give a shit is easy.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 05:05 PM
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4. It is anything but "pointles" but the point is totally outdated and ridiculous.
The point is that we can make an alternate economic system
look worst than the one we support IF we wage constant war
on it, to assure that we are right and they are wrong (just in case we are wrong).
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 05:09 PM
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5. Other than GE food and cars the people can't afford to buy...
what does America have to export to Cuba anymore? Freedom? Democracy?
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geardaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 05:12 PM
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6. Several things...
but I agree that embargos of Cuba are one of them.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 05:13 PM
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7. 500,000 votes from CANF in Florida is the "point" ... and not much else.
:shrug:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 05:18 PM
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8. They were punishing Castro for not handing over Cuba and that's all.
People don't remember that he came here before he went to the Soviets.

And, our price was too steep

Now, the same establishment points to Cuba as a failure when they were in part responsible for Castro's bunker mentality in the first place.

Cuba will be fine. Our policy has isolated us more than it has isolated Cuba.



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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 05:27 PM
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9. Yeah, I've read my history, and I knew that. I was wondering more about the
Miami Cubans, and someone did give the the answer.

How are you these days? I know you were going through a rough patch a while ago. Hope it's gotten better for you.

Redstone
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 05:28 PM
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12. I just saw a report on CNN that said the Miami Cubans
weren't out in full force because Castro wasn't confirmed dead. :crazy:

I'm okay, Redstone. Thank you for asking, my friend.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 05:28 PM
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11. Five foot wall protecting us from Mexico.
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 05:29 PM
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13. Indeed.
Redstone
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 05:35 PM
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15. I note a similarity. Fear of brownish people. Living to the south.
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 06:15 PM
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16. Especially because so many Cubans are so brown, they're black? AND, they're smart,
well-educated, and hardworking "brownish people" to boot?

I believe you've noted a NON-imaginary similarity, right there.

Redstone
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Tarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 05:30 PM
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14. Providing billions upon billions of aid to Israel is right up there
Both are supported by well-entrenched lobbyist concerns.
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Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 06:24 PM
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17. it sure seems pointless
Castro seemed willing to work with the US. Had the US been more friendly to the idea of nationalizing of industries that were basically colonial industries generating large profits for relatively few Cubans it would appear Cuba might have turned out more democratic years ago. At some point you would think actually having relations with such a nearest neighbor would help generate the results our country seeks from that country.
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cloudythescribbler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 06:58 PM
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18. There's Star Wars -- Cuba blockade right up there w/ the pack nt
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 07:15 PM
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19. Star Wars, yes. Right up there on anyone's Top Five "pointless" list.
Redstone
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