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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:41 PM
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So Bush has shifted from we do not torture - to torture is OK - but only against the "bad guys"?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9956644/

Mon., Nov. 7, 2005

PANAMA CITY, Panama - President Bush on Monday defended U.S. interrogation practices and called the treatment of terrorism suspects lawful. “We do not torture,” Bush declared in response to reports of secret CIA prisons overseas.




http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/feb/15/terrorism.usa1


London bombs justify 'torture', says Bush

President George Bush cited the London July 7 bombings in an interview broadcast last night to justify his support for waterboarding, an interrogation technique widely regarded as torture.

...

In the BBC interview, Bush was asked whether, given waterboarding and other alleged human rights abuses, he could claim the US still occupied the moral high ground. He replied: "Absolutely."

He added: "We believe in human rights and human dignity. We believe in the human condition. We believe in freedom. And we're willing to take the lead. We're willing to ask nations to do hard things. We're willing to accept responsibilities. And - yeah, no question in my mind, it's a nation that's a force for good.

"And history will judge the decisions made during this period of time as necessary decisions."
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WHEN CRABS ROAR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:46 PM
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1. And they know who the bad guys are because they have been
spying on all of us.
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:47 PM
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2. he also shifted from
we don't wiretap, to we only wiretap with warrants, to we'll wiretap anyways and then grant immunity
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:47 PM
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3. and, of course, the definition of "bad guys" is very very VERY vague ...
it even includes pacifist Quakers ...
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Ezlivin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:56 PM
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4. How do we tell the good from the bad? Easy: We torture them all.
Torture quickly reveals "evildoers."
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 03:55 PM
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5. you forgot the next step, that torture puts us on the moral high ground,
as per the bbc interview.
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