O Happy Day, Amurika! Today we vote for torture!

[deminks]

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/13/mccain-field-manual/

A Test For The Maverick: Will He Vote Against Waterboarding Today?

Today, at 10:30 a.m. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) is expected to bring to the floor the Intelligence Authorization Conference Report. One provision in the legislation, pushed by Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-CA), establishes a single interrogation standard requiring the intelligence community to abide by the same standards as articulated in the Army Field Manual.

Sen. John McCain (R-AZ), a former prisoner of war, has been an outspoken advocate against waterboarding. McCain has said the practice “is not a complicated procedure. It is torture.” He has previously called waterboarding “very exquisite torture.”

In a Republican presidential debate on Nov. 28, McCain said that the Army Field Manual should be the gold standard for interrogations:

(snip)

Today, the Senate will vote on cloture on the conference report, a procedure that requires 60 votes to proceed. Reid “will need some Republicans to cross party lines” for the anti-torture measure to pass. Reid says McCain “could be a major swing vote” today.

(end snip)

Oh, get ready to be proud to be an Amurikan. /sarcasm off.

The whole world is watching. Who would Jesus waterboard?

[Solly Mack]

1. How many times does torture have to be banned before , you know, it's actually banned?

Water-boarding is torture and has been called such for centuries. Torture is already banned. So water-boarding, whether named specifically or not, is already banned.

So just how many bans do we need for something to be actually, truly, really, seriously and finally banned?

Did the other bans just make it kinda, sorta, in a way banned?

[paparush]

6. There's a song in that somewhere..maybe its outside blowin in the wind...

[Solly Mack]

7. Oh, it blows all right

and it's an all for show tune

[bryant69]

2. Won't some poeple vote against torture?

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com

[Bluerthanblue]

3. does it really matter? some people voted

against Iraq- and Afganistan- and bush-

and what good has that really done?


peace~

[Bluerthanblue]

4. we should not even need

to pose this question.

Oh America, what have we become?


peace~

[TwilightGardener]

5. Debate on it now--Wyden just got done CSPAN2--

Kit Bond now speaking against the Feinstein measure: http://www.cspan.org/watch/cs_cspan2_wm.asp?Cat=TV&Code=CS2

[VP505]

8. After yesterdays cave

on FISA immunity for spying on Americans I have gotten to the point of pretty much not caring what they do on this. Water boarding is torture, has been forever, torture is illegal and has been forever so why bother, if they want to do something meaningful take some steps to arrest and PROSECUTE Bu$h/Cheney and then maybe I'll care.

[AlertLurker]

9. It's all pretty irrelevant, isn't it?

Considering that the USA is NOT a signatory of the UN Convention Against Torture...

The original UN Agreement on Human Rights (Convention Against Torture) was ratified and signed by the USA (and 141 other countries) in 1994, but after UN changed it in 2002 (mostly because the EC European Convention on Human Rights had just been signed and it differed from the UN's CAT), the USA has not signed or ratified it (nor have they done so with OPCAT-2006)...

So what's the difference? It's not like they can be convicted of anything in a UN Court, anyway...


It's just so depressing.

Assholes.