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lukery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 08:15 AM
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Key Clinton Backer Guilty in Sibel Edmonds Case
The UK's Times has already run three bombshell articles on the nuclear black market element in the case of former FBI translator Sibel Edmonds this year, and we are expecting more fallout in the near future as new evidence and witnesses come forward.

In the meantime, another important angle to Edmonds' case has opened up. Earlier this week, the New York Post ran a Page 6 piece, ODD FILM BY HILLARY BACKER, which highlights the close relationship between Hillary Clinton and Chicago-based Turkish businessman Mehmet Celebi.

Celebi, "one of the national leaders of the Turkish-American community in the US," is a key fundraiser for Clinton, and is one of Clinton's Chicago delegates to the 2008 Democratic National Convention. Celebi was also heavily involved in the controversial 2006 movie "Valley of the Wolves: Iraq" which has been widely regarded as "anti-Semitic, anti-American, conspiratorial agitprop."

Mehmet Celebi is also a key figure in the Sibel Edmonds case - he is heavily involved in the narcotics trade in the US and the corruption and bribery of high-level US officials.


According to Celebi's bio:
He has been serving as the President of the Turkish-American Cultural Alliance (TACA) since 2000, and as Member of the Board/Vice-President of the Assembly of Turkish-American Associations (ATAA), a Washington, D.C. based umbrella organization representing 57 organizations.


The Chicago-based Turkish-American Cultural Alliance (TACA) and the Assembly of Turkish-American Associations (ATAA) both figure prominently in Sibel Edmonds' case. Both are reported to be front groups for criminal activity involving illegal weapons sales, narcotics trafficking, and the bribery and corruption of high level US officials.

Mehmet Celebi first came to my attention in my first interview with Sibel in January 2006. My notes from that interview read:
"Sibel mentioned the mafia nature of the Turkish business establishment - in particular she mentioned Celebi as one of the key players - apparently they are involved in an arms trading cartel, and they ship narcotics in the cargo of their planes as they zoom around.

One of the Celebi family members (Mehmet Celebi) is chairman of the Turkish American Cultural Association (TACA) in Illinois. (Sibel has often pointed to both Chicago, and also to 'cultural exchanges')."



TACA and the ATAA were both targets of an FBI counter-intelligence operation investigating the corruption and bribery of high-level US officials from 1997 onward, including the period when Celebi had high level positions at these organizations.

According to the 2005 investigative piece in Vanity Fair into Sibel's case:
Vanity Fair has established that around ... December 2001, Joel Robertz, an F.B.I. special agent in Chicago, contacted Sibel and asked her to review some wiretaps. Some were several years old, others more recent; all had been generated by a counter-intelligence that had its start in 1997. “It began in D.C.,” says an F.B.I. counter-intelligence official who is familiar with the case file. “It became apparent that Chicago was actually the center of what was going on.”

Its subject was explosive; what sounded like attempts to bribe elected members of Congress, both Democrat and Republican. “There was pressure within the bureau for a special prosecutor to be appointed and take the case on,“ the official says. Instead, his colleagues were told to alter the thrust of their investigation – away from elected politicians and toward appointed officials. “This is the reason why Ashcroft reacted to Sibel in such an extreme fashion,” he says “It was to keep this from coming out.”

In her secure testimony, Edmonds disclosed some of what she recalled hearing. In all, says a source who was present, she managed to listen to more than 40 of the Chicago recordings supplied by Robertz. Many involved an F.B.I. target at the city’s large Turkish Consulate, as well as members of the American-Turkish Consulate, as well as members of the American-Turkish Council and the Assembly of Turkish American Associates (ATAA).

Some of the calls reportedly contained what sounded like references to large scale drug shipments and other crimes. To a person who knew nothing about their context, the details were confusing and it wasn’t always clear what might be significant. One name, however, apparently stood out – a man the Turkish callers often referred to by the nickname “Denny boy.” It was the Republican congressman from Illinois and Speaker of the House, Dennis Hastert."


Hastert is from Chicago, of course, but he wasn't the only congressmen who was bribed by these groups - others who were identified in Sibel's Rogues Gallery are Roy Blunt, Tom Lantos, Dan Burton, Robert Livingston and Steven Solarz.

The Vanity Fair article identifies a number of different mechanisms for bribing these Congressmen, and the bribes appear to come from three separate, yet overlapping, groups. In an article in 2006, I attempted to categorize these groups:

The first group is a criminal element of the Military Industrial Complex, represented primarily by Richard Perle, Doug Feith and Marc Grossman among others - generally using AIPAC and the American Turkish Council as front organizations.

The second group suspected of bribing Hastert is the 'mafia-like' Turkish 'Deep State', probably a mix of Turkish military, heroin producers and drug-runners. It is suspected that these funds are laundered through 'lobbyists' - originally Perle & Feith's company International Advisors Inc, and later (and currently) through Bob Livingston's company The Livingston Group.

The third group is a bit more hazy, but it is suspected that it is a group of Turkish heroin 'baba' (mafia) operating in the US, probably headquarted in Chicago. This group appears to use front organisations such as the Assembly of Turkish American Associations (A.T.A.A.) and the Turkish American Cultural Alliance (T.A.C.A.)


Mehmet Celebi is a key player in this third group, the Turkish heroin mafia.
DCScripts

Ex-CIA agent Phil Giraldi has also previously linked TACA and ATAA to Sibel Edmonds case,
"The commercial interest (between has also fostered close political ties, with the American Turkish Council, American Turkish Cultural Alliance (TACA) and the Assembly of Turkish American Associations (ATAA) all developing warm relationships with AIPAC and other Jewish and Israel advocacy groups throughout the US."


Given the strong connections between the Turkish and Israeli lobbies identified in Sibel's case, it is perhaps not surprising to see members of Israeli lobbying groups stepping forward to defend Celebi in the NRO and elsewhere, although the claims made in his defense are easily debunked.


Why is Hillary Clinton involved with such a character? The claims against him are well documented, and extend back to her husband's presidency, including steps in place to appoint a Special Prosecutor to investigate Celebi and the bribery of Hastert's and others. Sibel described the situation on a radio program in early 2006:

" In 1999, the Clinton Administration actually asked the Department of Justice to appoint a Special Prosecutor to investigate Hastert, and certain other elected officials that were not named in this (VF) article, to be investigated formally. And the Department of Justice actually went about appointing this prosecutor, but after the Administration changed they quashed that investigation and they closed it despite the fact they had all sorts of evidence, again I’m talking about wiretaps, documents - paper documents - that was highly explosive and could have been easily used to indict the Speaker of the House Dennis Hastert. That investigation was closed in 2001, and this was around the time I started reporting my cases to the Congress."


Has Hillary forgotten all this? Or is she too for sale to the highest bidder? We are all well aware of George Bush's fund-raising giants, the Rangers and Pioneers, which resulted in many a scandal and prosecution including Ken Lay, Jack Abramoff and Brent Wilkes - yet here is Hillary Clinton engaging in the exact same behaviour, taking large sums of money from corrupt interests, and appointing these people to positions of political power. How can we even hope that a Clinton presidency will be an improvement over the last 8 years?

The right-wing blogs are already beginning to pick up this story of Celebi and Clinton - Schlussel, National Review Online, Gateway Pundit - focusing solely on Celebi's involvement with the movie "Valley of the Wolves." The Right-Wing-Noise-Machine will no doubt go into overdrive if Hillary wins the nomination to be the next president. This information needs to be made public immediately.

When asked for a comment, Sibel said:
"In 2005, Vanity Fair reported that Dennis Hastert had been bribed by Turkish interests. If people want to investigate this further they should FOIA the FBI's Chicago Field Office for information regarding Mehmet Celebi going back to 1997. If the FBI is honest, there will be boxes and boxes of files responsive to these FOIA requests.

Hillary Clinton knows, or should know, about Mehmet Celebi's activities. If she doesn't, she should ask Bill Clinton or his Attorney General Janet Reno."


The FBI's Chicago Field Office has investigative files relating to Mehmet Celebi's involvement in the trafficking of narcotics as well as the corruption of high-level US officials. We need to recruit some prominent 'good government' groups, of any political persuasion, to file a FOIA request with the FBI's Chicago Field Office (CFO) for all information relating to Mehmet Celebi and this criminal activity. I expect that the CFO will deny and stonewall, but as we saw with the recent UK Times article, false denials can lead to other frustrated whistleblowers coming forward with documents and other evidence which can prove the case. Please contact me if you can prepare, file, and follow-up the FOIA request.





Cross-posted at Let Sibel Edmonds Speak


( Email me if you want to be added to my Sibel email list. Subject: 'Sibel email list')

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panader0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 08:24 AM
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1. K&R A real can of worms there.............
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 08:25 AM
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2. Thanks lukery.
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Windy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 08:35 AM
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3. kick
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DeeDeeNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 08:45 AM
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4. Wow
K & R

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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 08:51 AM
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5. K&R
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HamdenRice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 08:56 AM
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6. Thanks for your work on this important story! krnt!
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druidity33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 08:59 AM
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7. whoah.
that's big. Makes Rezko pale by comparison. I'd rather be aligned with a slumlord than a nuclear proliferator and treasonous bastard.

:shrug:

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gaiilonfong Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 08:59 AM
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8. No surprise here
MOST of Clintons money people and bundlers are crooks.
They WERE looking for pardons like Marc Rich....uh....don't think that is going to happen now!
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pberq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 09:19 AM
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9. Kick & Nominated
"Hillary Clinton knows, or should know, about Mehmet Celebi's activities."
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Spurt Donating Member (352 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 09:30 AM
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10. K&R
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 09:44 AM
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11. I'm hoping the entire 9-11 timeline and narrative of the last 3 decades includes
every administration's associations and the consequences in an even more complete overview.
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 09:56 AM
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12. Hmm... another Rupert Murdoch owned publication...

The layers in this case are getting unbelievably complex. I have a feeling we are looking at what could be the newer swiftboaters nacent stages of trying to bring down the Democratic nominee later on. It's weird that Murdoch is so cozy with Clinton on the one hand, and these publications owned by him seem to be building a foundation for a full frontal assault on her campaign later. It feels like once again they are trying to plan a way to manipulate the public into voting in a Republican by lining up the candidate they want in office. Why Clinton's allowing herself to be manipulated into these corners is another question to ponder, if she seriously is trying to be a good Democrat wanting to REALLY become president, and not just a tool for the corporatists using the Republican party for their agenda.

I also find it interesting that the Post dwells entirely on the anti-semitic portion of the film to play up that part of it and not discuss the rest of it, which went after the American's presence in Iraq and alluding to the various bad incidents there (the torture incidents at Abu Ghraib, where the photos we've seen are in affect redramatized for the film), and the shooting up of many people in a wedding there, which starts the film.

I have a copy of the film and have seen it earlier, in case anyone's got some questions. I've loaned it out to a friend at the moment, but I can probably look in to other details if someone's curious and get back to here later.

It is interesting to see this story from Chris Deliso on the apparent shutting down of the Deep State launching a coup attempt by the current Turkish government that just got published the other day. Here's my thread on that.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

Thank you DU for not censoring this, even though it is published by a site that is normally restricted here on DU for some anti-semitic content at some point in time.

My gut feeling is that even though earlier the Republicans and right wing have sought to use State Secrets and other gag orders to try and cover up this and related stories royally, when they had something to lose, perhaps now they realize that with them likely already behind in just about every political race for 2008, that they really do have nothing to lose now to get these stories out to drag the Democrats down with them, and then point fingers at folks like Waxman and Pelosi as being a part of the big problem, and try to have some sort of "rennaissance" with newer Republican challengers that will replace not only the "older corrupt" Republican establishment associated with Bushco, but also the complicit Democratic establishment as well. If they do nothing, they realize that there will be a newer huge Democratic majority (whether it is infested with DLC control or not).

It seems like the sooner we get the alternative progressive press to cover this more objectively, so that we can separate out what will likely be a future swiftboater's line that the "Democrats are as bad as the Republicans", the sooner we can ensure that the progressive voices will be the ones heard and will be the ones that start rising up the leadership ladder to replace any corrupt elements that will be exposed in this mess.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 11:00 AM
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14. Waxman has made his own bed on this matter.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 12:09 PM
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19. But, Waxman has time today for more hearings on Baseball steroids.
Exactly the same BS that Tom Davis used to pull. Wasting the Committee's time on grandstanding non-issues, while ignoring really serious criminal scandals.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 03:35 PM
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34. Yes.
Indeed.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 11:55 AM
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16. I agree with 95% of that. Note also how this and the Hsu donations evoke the "Chinagate" scandal
Edited on Wed Feb-13-08 12:04 PM by leveymg
Of course, it's possible that Hillary is getting set up in this, and the bogus Chinese-American contributions that emerged last year.

Smells really fishy, very redolent of the efforts by Chinese intelligence and Russians around Yelsin to funnel money into the '96 Clinton campaign.

Her campaign staff has, at the very least, done a simply terrible job of screening her funding sources, particularly money bundled by "HillRaisers".

Here's a WSJ article on Hsu: http://online.wsj.com/public/article/SB1188351997048118...

Leading Clinton Donor
Stays Below the Radar
By IANTHE JEANNE DUGAN and BRODY MULLINS
August 29, 2007

Norman Hsu is one of the leading political fund-raisers in the country this year. In fact, many fund-raisers say he is one of a small handful of people capable of raising more than $1 million -- a major feat considering the maximum donation allowed by an individual for 2008 races is $4,600 per candidate.


Norman Hsu, left, with Hillary Clinton at a fund-raiser for the senator in New York in 2005.
But longtime political donors are curious: "Who is Norman Hsu?" asks Robin Chandler Duke, a former ambassador and longtime supporter of Bill and Hillary Clinton.

Until three years ago, Mr. Hsu never made a campaign contribution to a presidential candidate, according to federal election records. Now, though, several people involved in raising money for White House candidates say Mr. Hsu is a major player.

Many "HillRaisers" -- people who rustle up at least $100,000 for Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign -- are dwarfed beside Mr. Hsu (pronounced "Shu"). Several people involved in Democratic presidential fund-raising say Mr. Hsu, an apparel executive, has raised well over $1 million for the New York senator's presidential campaign, making him one of the top 20 Democratic fund-raisers in the country. The Clinton campaign doesn't disclose such details and declined to comment for this story.


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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 12:37 PM
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24. I suspect bundled money is the hardest to filter or account for.
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Oilwellian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 10:59 AM
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13. Odd that....
Bill Clinton appointed Marc Grossman as the Turkish ambassador and the tapes Sibel interpreted for the FBI field agents are dated during his presidency. Wouldn't Clinton know his Turkish ambassador was being investigated by the FBI for espionage?

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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 01:50 PM
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28. Presidents are always the last to learn about these things. Or, so they tell us.
That's been the initial story given out in every major scandal since Watergate. Reagan never did understand how Iran-Contra happened - we're told. :bounce:
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 02:19 PM
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30. Hi Mark. I'm going to link to an active thread that is related.
It's based on a repost of a Jim Hogue article from January 29, 2008 Baltimore Chronicle.

"More Evidence of Pre-9/11 Inside Trading: Follow the Money? God forbid." (started 2-12-2008)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 03:49 AM
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56. That's a good article about Bill Bergman. The follow the money angle has been barely touched.
Edited on Thu Feb-14-08 03:58 AM by leveymg
Billions in $100 bills shipped out of the US in August, 2001. Someone knew. Someone wealthy and well-protected, with powerful friends in the White House. Powerful enough to suppress the Federal Reserve investigation of pre-9/11 money flows and get Bergman fired when he found those big shipments of currency overseas.

Who do YOU think could've known?
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 01:17 PM
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61. Prince Bandar and his American friends???
:think:
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 11:40 AM
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15. Mehmet Celebi is definitely a HRC contributor, reportedly a big one
Edited on Wed Feb-13-08 11:47 AM by leveymg
Celebi appears to be a bundler. He contributed less than $5K of his own money last year, but seems to have raised over $100K in bundled donations to the HRC Campaign. Raises some interesting questions: from whom is he getting his money? What is a candidate's responsibility with regard to checking the background and sources of major contributors?

Here's Celebi's personal donations profile

from Open Secrets: http://www.opensecrets.org /...

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Candidate
Contributor
Employer
Date
Amount

Clinton, Hillary
CELEBI, MEHMET
NAPERVILLE,IL 60564
BMH WORLDWIDE/PARTNER
3/14/2007
$2,300

Clinton, Hillary
CELEBI, MEHMET
NAPERVILLE,IL 60564
BMH WORLDWIDE/PARTNER
3/31/2007
$1,300

Clinton, Hillary
CELEBI, DOGU
ACTON,MA 01720
INGENIX/VICE PRESIDENT
3/31/2007
$1,000

Clinton, Hillary
CELEBI, MEHMET
NAPERVILLE,IL 60564
BMH WORLDWIDE/PARTNER
3/19/2007
$1,000

Clinton, Hillary
Celebi, Mehmet F
Naperville,IL 60564
Bmh Worldwide
12/27/2007
$15

Center for Responsive Politics.

Not really big money, at least in terms of direct contributions to Hillary's campaign, but Mehmet may also have been bundling other people's money.

This definitely establishes a money link with Hillary. NOTE: the Celebis didn't contribute to anyone other than to Hillary in 2007.

However, NYPOST shows he raised >$100K

From Richard Johnson's column at the The NY Post (also a Murdoch NewsCorp holding): http://www.nypost.com/seven/02112008 ...

February 11, 2008 -- SEN. Hillary Clinton has gotten cozy with a Turkish-born businessman whom some have described as anti-Semitic. Clinton's campaign Web site identifies Mehmet Celebi as one of her "HillRaisers" - someone who has raised at least $100,000 for her presidential bid. This despite Celebi's controversial producing credit on "Valley of the Wolves: Iraq" - a 2006 movie that depicted a Jewish doctor removing the vital organs of civilian prisoners to sell to wealthy transplant patients overseas. "In accordance with the old anti-Semitic canard, the movie portrays Jewish-American doctors as forcibly harvesting organs from Muslims to give them to Jews," noted Detroit lawyer and columnist Debbie Schlussel observes on her blog. Clinton spokesman Jay Carson didn't get back to us for comment.


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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 11:58 AM
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18. Thanks for posting that here.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 12:44 PM
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26. AND A Clinton Chicago delegate
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donkeyotay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 05:50 PM
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38. Ingenix caught my eye. They're being investigated.
Potentially a very important case:

At the center of the scheme is Ingenix, Inc., the nations largest provider of healthcare billing information, which serves as a conduit for rigged data to the largest insurers in the country. ...

The American Medical Association's President-elect Nancy Nielsen M.D. said, The investigation launched today by New York Attorney General Andrew Cuomo calls into question the validity of a system that health insurers have used for years to reimburse physicians and their enrolled members.

http://www.oag.state.ny.us/press/2008/feb/feb13a_08.htm...
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johnnydrama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 05:19 AM
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58. $15?
Why would a rich businessman donate, $2300, $1300, $1000 and then $15?

$15?????? The first 3 = tha max of $4600? WTF is with $15?
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 07:28 AM
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59. He raised $100,000.
That would be through getting others to give. His personal contributions would vary.
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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 11:56 AM
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17. *k&r. nt
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sicksicksick_N_tired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 12:17 PM
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20. Lantos?
Geez. ;( I really liked him.

I'm not sure I've ever been convinced of anyone's guilt via a contributor's crimes or corruption. Come to think of it, I've never assumed guilt on that basis. It's next to impossible to track personal histories on tens of thousands of contributors.

:shrug:

I wish congress would just investigate this shit to clear the air, once and for all. Government/political corruption is NEVER going to cease without sunlight and consequences.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 12:27 PM
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21. Add another player to The New Republic's List of HRC Shadiest Donors:
With Friends Like These ...
by Marin Cogan, Melanie Mason, and Barron YoungSmith
Everything you ever wanted to know about the Clintons' shadiest donors.
Post Date Monday, February 04, 2008

http://www.tnr.com/politics/story.html?id=076fd56f-4aca...
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 02:18 PM
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29. Thanks for that.
Softsoap -- plays down some of these scoundrels' ties to various foreign intel agencies -- but comprehensive.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 05:56 PM
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39. Unfortunately some things are too complicated for the masses to comprehend
It's a sad state when the American people will spend more time focused on fluff rather than substance-but it's the truth.
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Orwellian_Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 12:33 PM
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22. K&R n/t
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 12:37 PM
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23. Always thankful
Edited on Wed Feb-13-08 12:39 PM by seemslikeadream

Sibel Edmonds and other Whistleblowers Group



http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 12:39 PM
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25. Drugs, lobbyist $ and now we see how lock step on the Hill is maintained
Most interesting post. Thank you.

Just went over and subscribed to Vanity Fair. Seems to be one of the few print entities that does journalism anymore.
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lisainmilo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 01:01 PM
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27. Not surprised...
thanks for reporting this though.
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 02:21 PM
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31. More collusion and corruption at the highest levels of government
from both sides of the aisle.
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robertpaulsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 03:12 PM
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32. Thanks lukery.
Too bad Waxman finds Roger Clemens more important. :eyes:
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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 06:10 PM
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40. Exactly!
Investigating steroids in baseball instead of treason against the country is unforgivable IMO. :banghead:
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rucognizant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 10:02 PM
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46. Did anyone call Pelosi?
I left a very "firm" message, re: they should be impeaching, rather than doing hearings on steroids.
The Dr. actually prescribed steroids for my 12 & 13 yr old Grandkids, for 2 different medical situations. Will they have to go before the Congress?
(My daughter did research and got the Dr. to substitute alternative medicine instead! She hated the idea of steroids and thought it un-nessesary!)
I called Conyers as well, got right through on the free capital line. 800-828-0498
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 03:19 PM
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33. Recommend
and :kick:ing for more exposure.
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apocalypsehow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 03:43 PM
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35. Fascinating, detailed article. Very good info - thanks for posting this.
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lukery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 05:31 PM
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36. thanks for the comments
I'm travelling and can't respond to everyone - but thanks.
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 05:37 PM
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37. K&RRR ! Excellent post lukery, you are on top of this...
What we are up against: elitists who profit from organized crime drug trafficking!

As noted from some of your other work on this:


http://rastibini.blogspot.com

Luke noted that the World Bank made virtually no
reference to Turkey's role:
"At least three quarters of all heroin sold in Western Europe comes
from Turkey - 4 to 6 tons every month - yet the World Bank report
mentions Turkey exactly... once!


Here's the reference, in all it's glory:
"The large dealers in both Lashkar Gah city and Kandahar claimed that
they deal directly with buyers in Pakistan, Turkey, the United
Kingdom, and the United States."


That single reference to Turkey is all that the report could muster.


Why would Wolfowitz want to erase any mention of Turkey from his
report?" Because those members of the Deep State in the US also benefit from
Turkey's heroin industry
no differently than their Turkish
counterparts, as quoted earlier and as discussed by Sibel Edmonds and
Philip Giraldi in Luke's post. In other words, it's not just the
handful of criminals in the Ergenekon gang who are involved in narco-
trafficking. It's a globalized industry for the elites...'

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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 07:01 PM
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41. Yep.
Turkey is number one and mentioned just once. Big oversite?
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 08:14 PM
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43. I've done a little research myself...

on DEA websites. They vastly play down the significance of 'China White' heroin imports from Middle Eastern sources.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 08:40 PM
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45. Good work.
The down playing is quite interesting. Those poppies in Afghanstan are insulted.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 07:11 PM
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42. Wow. Just wow.
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 08:22 PM
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44. Welcome back- How was your trip?
I got worried about you when I didn't see any posts for a while.
I went to your blog and saw that you wee planning some travel time.
Thanks for letting us know that.
These days I wonder about the safety of whistle blowers.

Please take care.
BHN
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Az_lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 10:20 PM
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47. Wow...K&R
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 10:24 PM
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48. K&R
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williesgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 10:27 PM
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49. Any HRC supporter out there that doesn't think this will hurt her in GE if nominated?
Then I have a bridge to sell you. She's old establishment and as dirty as Bush and his other cronies.

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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 10:45 PM
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50. Interesting info re Clinton Admin vs Hastert in '99 --- didn't know about that -- !!!
Thanks for all the continuing work on reporting this --- everyone.

Best wishes to Sibel Edmonds - a woman of tremendous courage!

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frog92969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 12:59 AM
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51. K&R
Thank you for all your work and the clarity of your presentation.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 01:06 AM
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52. k
Edited on Thu Feb-14-08 01:13 AM by bobthedrummer
on edit:

"Former FBI Translator Sibel Edmonds Calls Current 9/11 Investigation Inadequate" by Jim Hogue (May 7, 2004 Baltimore Chronicle)

http://baltimorechronicle.com/050704SibelEdmonds.shtml

Fair use cited.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 01:16 AM
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53. so much for vetting n/t
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 01:34 AM
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54. Damn!
Looks bad.

Guess we will be refighting the 90s all over again!

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ingac70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 02:18 AM
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55. K&R.... and bookmarked! n/t.
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Voltaire99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 04:23 AM
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57. Turkish heroin mafia for Clinton: sing-a-long!
Edited on Thu Feb-14-08 04:27 AM by Voltaire99
Because a mainer to my vein
Leads to a center in my head
And then I'm better off and dead
Because when the smack begins to flow
I really don't care anymore
About all the Jim-Jim's in this town
And all the politicians makin' crazy sounds
And everybody puttin' everybody else down
And all the dead bodies piled up in mounds
'Cause when the smack begins to flow
Then I really don't care anymore
Ah, when the heroin is in my blood
And that blood is in my head
Then thank God that I'm as good as dead
Then thank your God that I'm not aware
And thank God that I just don't care
And I guess I just don't know
And I guess I just don't know


-- Velvet Underground, "Heroin"

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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 01:00 PM
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60. Uh oh nt
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:02 AM
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62. Kick
BHN
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