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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 03:52 PM
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U S to seek death penalties against GTMO detainees????
for their involvement in the September 11th, 2001 attacks..

http://www.nytimes.com:80/2008/02/11/us/11gitmo.html?th&emc=th

Would a skeptical bush hating sumbitch like me ask the question, if torture worked so well, why has it taken at least five years to get to this point?
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 03:57 PM
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1. so much for the right to a speedy trial
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panader0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 03:58 PM
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2. I heard that this morning.
It will cause outrage near and far. Hell, those 'detainees" will be lucky to get a trial first. How many of their confessions were brought about by torture?
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 04:00 PM
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3. where are military tribunals in the constitution? listened to that
pentagon mouthpiece talking about how they were going to do everything legally, aboveboard, etc.
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 04:01 PM
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4. Saved 'em for an election year.
04 - Bin Laden tape
06 - Saddam execution
08 - KSM trial and execution
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atreides1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 04:06 PM
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5. Because
They had to get the SCOTUS to go along with the whole Kangaroo... I mean Military Commission System.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 04:10 PM
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6. Jeez...their actually going to have a trial..
after 5 years? I bet they're ecstatic! Maybe John McCain will weigh in on this one.
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Harmonicaman Donating Member (103 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 04:19 PM
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7. How can a prisoner
be held for X number of years, and then be charged with a crime "contrary to the laws of war", when they are not prisoners of war, according to bushco ?
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warren pease Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 04:20 PM
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8. Without a public trial, I imagine?
By using a private military tribunal kangaroo court, they keep the public from learning anything specific about how the defendants spent their Cuban vacations, including the hideous details of their sessions with our official torturers.

And, without admitting to actually practicing torture, the bastards could still claim that the fear of torture works just fine. And since everybody knows the US would never use torture because Bush said so, it must have been the fear of it that made them incriminate themselves.

Best of all, dead men tell no tales, so executing them seals the files and nobody on the outside knows nuttin'.

All in a day's work for vice president motherfucker, his stumblebum howdy doody marionette and the ingeniously evil (in)justice department.

And when a couple dozen US troops get tortured and executed for war crimes somewhere in the Middle East, the bastards can issue strongly worded statements condemning these outrageous violations of the Geneva Conventions, while the rest of the world just laughs its collective ass off and eagerly awaits the death rattle of the empire.

Your tax dollars at work.


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endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 04:29 PM
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9. These people were tortured, detained without charges for years,
have never had legitimate representation by lawyers, have been denied habeus corpus and other basic rights, and are going to be tried and executed under highly dubious legal procedures. It is an outrage and a crime against humanity no matter what any of them might actually have done.
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 05:06 PM
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10. Just when you think that Bushco couldn't sink any lower they come
up with something like this. At least one of the detainees they mention, Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, has been subjected to waterboarding by their own account.
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endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 05:48 PM
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12. All of the gitmo detainees have been subjected to severe torture.
The program uses extreme sensory deprivation to induce a complete mental breakdown and personality disintegration in the captives. After the initial shock treatment an ongoing routine of humiliation, disorientation, repeated doses of sensory deprivation, etc. are used to prevent any recovery. It is a depraved and criminally abusive system. They would like us to focus on waterboarding as the only thing that qualifies as torture because they do not want anyone to look at the standard treatment program, a program that is now working its way into our normal prison industrial system. Waterboarding is a diversion.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 05:07 PM
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11. torture doesn't work and this bullshit is political show business imo
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