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JanMichael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 12:58 AM
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From 1980-81 through today there have been two names in office.
Edited on Sat Feb-09-08 01:00 AM by JanMichael
I mean as the president or vice-president.

One begins with B one begins with C.

Is this "democratic"? I think not. YET the alternatives seem to not really be alternatives. Again is this by definition "democratic"? Perhaps Aristotle would differ? Maybe, just maybe? Perhaps we should change the definition to suit our self-appointed gods?

Oh and if anyone wants to play the "it's a republic" game I could give a shit.

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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 12:59 AM
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1. I so wanna count how many times this same thing is posted here.
The problem is that I can't be here 24 hours a day.
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JanMichael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 01:02 AM
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2. And how is it not a fact or true?
Just curious.

Oh and FDR was elected 4 times and I love him but that wasn't so "democratic" either.

My beef is with so called "Parliamentary Democracy". It's lets people, "the people", off from making real decisions regarding human welfare.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 01:07 AM
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3. Yes. "George" and "Clinton".



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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 01:08 AM
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4. It is democratic. People voted.
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laconicsax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 01:10 AM
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5. This is such a non-issue
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BeatleBoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 01:12 AM
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6. FDR was President for 12 Years - Elected to 4 Terms as President
Edited on Sat Feb-09-08 01:15 AM by BeatleBoot
No one complained.


:beer:
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tuckessee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 01:26 AM
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11. Oh, lots of people complained.
In fact, the objections were so great that after FDR's death term limits were instituted for the office of President.
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BeatleBoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 01:35 AM
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13. Much to Bill Clinton's Chagrin...
I'm sure....



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Fresh_Start Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 01:18 AM
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7. and Obama is related to both Bush and Cheney
by blood so is Obama a continuation of the Bush/Cheney era?
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JanMichael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 01:20 AM
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8. Not any better IMHO. nt.
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Fresh_Start Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 01:24 AM
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9. Clinton was a good President, not a great President
the two Bush's around him were poor and disaster
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JanMichael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 01:26 AM
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10. The bar is low.
Expectations are based on the poor performance of others. That's a shitty outcome measure. Can't we all, the average people of this nation, ever force it to be lifted?
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Fresh_Start Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 01:33 AM
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12. I wasn't talking about my rating for Clinton
I read a rating by scholars in history and government a couple of years ago.
Clinton was a middling President.
Nixon was a poor.
FDR was a great.
Harding poor
Grant poor.
JFK middling.

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frogcycle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 01:48 AM
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14. dumb, tired, drivel
that is all
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