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lukery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 10:22 PM
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White House in panic over Sibel Edmonds?
Sixteen days after the UK Times' published a blockbuster article, For sale: West’s deadly nuclear secrets, about how certain top US government officials were enabling Turkish and Israeli interests in supplying the nuclear black market, President Bush quietly announced on Tuesday that he wants Congress to approve sales of nuclear technology to Turkey.

Is this a reaction to the Times article? It sure looks like it. I wouldn't be surprised if we soon start hearing about retroactive immunity for the guilty parties, just as we are seeing in the illegal spying case currently in the Senate.

As always happens in this case, the silence in the US media is deafening.

Two years ago, Bush's efforts to sell nuclear technology prompted much “ indignation and furor," but not a single major US media outlet has yet reported the proposed deal with Turkey. Agence France-Presse put out a report on its wires which has been picked up around the world, but that's about it.

The White House press release says that Bill Clinton agreed to the deal in 2000:
However, immediately after signature, U.S. agencies received information that called into question the conclusions that had been drawn in the required NPAS (Nuclear Proliferation Assessment Statement) and the original classified annex, specifically, information implicating Turkish private entities in certain activities directly relating to nuclear proliferation. Consequently, the Agreement was not submitted to the Congress and the executive branch undertook a review of the NPAS evaluation.


It would certainly be interesting to know which "Turkish private entitities" Bush is referring to here. If he had said "Turkish private companies" instead, we could be comfortable in presuming that he was referring to the two named Turkish companies involved in A.Q. Khan's network, EKA and ETI Elektroteknik The phrase "entities" on the other hand is broader, and could very well include the American Turkish Council, the 'entity' named in the Times article as well as other articles about Sibel Edmonds case.

The timing here is also interesting; "immediately after" Clinton approved the deal in July 2000, US agencies became aware of this Turkish involvement in the AQ Khan network. This was fully three years before the Khan network was officially exposed.

The White House press release continues with some curiously descriptive narrative:
"My Administration has completed the NPAS review as well as an evaluation of actions taken by the Turkish government to address the proliferation activities of certain Turkish entities (once officials of the U.S. Government brought them to the Turkish government's attention)."


Given that the entire press release is basically written in 'legalese', this unnecessary parenthetical aside stands out like a sore thumb. I wonder who injected this statement into the announcement, and why. It sure looks like butt-covering to me, given the latest revelations in the Times.

The phrase 'once officials...' also appears to be a curious formulation. I'm not overly familiar with presidential statements and US government protocols, but I would imagine that "Agencies" or "Departments" would normally communicate with foreign governments on such important matters, and I would imagine that presidential statements would normally refer to such agencies, rather than 'officials.' Perhaps I'm wrong, and perhaps this is common practice, but it sure looks like an attempt to exonerate certain individuals such as Marc Grossman who was accused of some very serious crimes in the Times article.

Who were these officials? How, when, and in what format, did they bring this information to the Turkish government? I'd like to see the official communication, please.

And what, exactly, has the Turkish government done to 'address these proliferation activities'? We know that ETA and EKI continue to operate, and as far as I know haven't been penalized. The press release says that this information is all classified.

Summary
It appears as though certain administration officials have been illegally supplying the Turkish nuclear program for years, and now that they've been publicly outed, the Bush administration will simply make the entire program legal, just as they are trying to do with the illegal spying.

Congress has 90 days to amend or block this legislation, otherwise it automatically becomes law.

We need public open hearings to determine which officials have been supplying the nuclear black market before this becomes law.

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Cross posted at Let Sibel Edmonds Speak

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Catbird Donating Member (633 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 10:26 PM
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1. K & R
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antigop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 10:28 PM
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2. and can we count on the Dems to stop it? Ha. Silly me. n/t
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 10:47 PM
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9. Beat me to it.
Where are the leaders?
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AikidoSoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 12:21 PM
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100. Self delete
Edited on Sun Jan-27-08 12:35 PM by AikidoSoul
posted it on wrong thread!
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Wapsie B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 11:59 AM
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66. Paging Nancy Pelosi. Nancy Pelosi please pick up the white courtesy phone.
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 05:26 PM
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90. And you are doing __________ what about it? Letters, funding, ...?
-> ______________________________ <-
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Wapsie B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 01:53 AM
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99. Don't hold me to a higher standard.
She's the one who's the elected official here. But go ahead and give her a pass.
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 10:32 PM
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3. K&R
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MaryRN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 10:35 PM
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4. K & R
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frog92969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 10:40 PM
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5. K&R
:mad:
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lukery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 10:41 PM
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6. Parry
Consortium News is on the job, republishing an old piece by Martin Lee

http://www.consortiumnews.com/2008/012408a.html
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antigop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 10:49 PM
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11. OMG! I did not know about the Banco Ambrosiano connection.
I read "In God's Name" some time ago. Maybe I need to go back and re-read it.
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 11:48 PM
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20. I had not realized the Vatican was involved
I need to read more about this part of the corruption.

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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 07:28 AM
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46. SMOM n/t
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 06:31 PM
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94. the Vatican are the money men
able to do what they want and no army to protect them or a populace to worry about and yet help rule the world


Oh ya quite a place
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 04:57 PM
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86. If Berlusconi is tied into this, now might be the time to point it out...
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 07:18 PM
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96. Wasn't there suspected Italian involvement in the forged Niger documents...
Edited on Fri Jan-25-08 07:18 PM by calipendence
... that was what helped the Bushies cook the books on the Yellowcake stuff that became related to the Valerie Plame/Brewster Jennings scandal? And of course recent London Times article links the Plame/Brewster Jennings scandal with what Sibel Edmonds knows too. So it wouldn't be too surprising that he's linked to this as well.
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 10:14 PM
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97. A conspiracy of right-wing intelligence factions...

including possible players previously involved in Iran/Contra. Iran/Contra gave birth to a money laundering platform that allowed drug trafficking and illegal arms trade to occur behind the backs of the "white hats". Look into the Pollard case to see how this platform allowed nuclear secrets to be released previously, via right-wing Israeli intermediaries.
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druidity33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 10:43 PM
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7. urgh! ack! sputter...
rrrrrrrrrrrRRRRRRRRRRRRRrrrrRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRrrrrrrrrr...........

settling down now...

those bastards.

:grr:

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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 10:47 PM
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8. This looks familiar.
When they get caught doing something in secret, they then do it in broad daylight to suggest it isn't illegal to begin with. Just change the rules.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 12:06 AM
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23. Changing the rules is pretty much the MO.
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 10:47 PM
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10. KNPnta
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Orwellian_Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 10:50 PM
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12. Probably not
They know they will not be held accountable for there is no meaningful force to hold their feet to the fire. Can we get to that?

K&R
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antigop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 10:53 PM
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13. Thanks, lukery, for your diligence. n/t
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StateSecrets Donating Member (394 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 11:02 PM
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14. K & R
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antigop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 11:07 PM
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15. And thanks to Ms. Edmonds for her courage and willingness to stand up for the truth. n/t
Edited on Thu Jan-24-08 11:08 PM by antigop
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Truth2Tell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 12:43 AM
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27. Thank you Ms. Secrets!
And Luke too. American heroes the both of you!
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 11:09 PM
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16. I hope they are and if Congress protects them they need
to go to jail too
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 01:32 AM
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31. We'll see how much protection Congress grants.
Edited on Fri Jan-25-08 01:32 AM by mmonk
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 11:11 PM
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17. K&R
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ursi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 11:17 PM
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18. and what will reid and pelosi do?
Kick and rank!
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lukery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 11:40 PM
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19. nothing.
simple question, simple answer.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 11:52 PM
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21. Excellent.
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 12:06 AM
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22. K&R, Cohen Group and Lockheed Martin tied up in this?

"The Cohen Group is an excellent case, illustrating the futility of FARA, since the firm does not have to be registered. They can claim that Turkey is not their direct client; they can argue that they are not getting paid directly by the government of Turkey or any other foreign entity or government. They certainly can; no matter that Grossman receives hundreds of thousands of dollars from a dubious Turkish company. Does Cohen discount Grossmans Vice Chairmanship salary accordingly? No matter that half a million dollars per year from their client Lockheed Martin is mainly for services provided to Turkey, and having the groups second chairman serve on Lockheeds board is another way to get around all restrictions. The incestuous relationship twists and turns: The Cohen Group on the board of ATC, The Cohen Group a paying member client of ATC, The Cohen Group as Lockheeds lobbyist, Cohens men on the board of Lockheed, Lockheed on the board of ATC, Lockheed also a paying client of ATCHow is your head; spinning yet?"

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lukery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 12:16 AM
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24. yes and yes
grossman is ViceChairman at Cohen.
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AikidoSoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 12:29 AM
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25. Good work keeping us posted
You have the most in depth knowledge on this of anyone.

K and R
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xiamiam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 12:33 AM
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26. seems the reason its so hard to get traction is the complicity of so many dems and repubs..
a truly bipartisan effort to screw our country..
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 12:45 AM
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29. And nowhere to turn without a press that serves as a fourth estate.
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balantz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 12:44 AM
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28. K&R
Thanks
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 12:47 AM
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30. SSDD for this mal-administration...
K & R
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lukery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 01:32 AM
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32. Dana Priest In WaPo live online today
"Crestwood, N.Y.: Here's the shortest question you'll ever get: Sibel Edmonds?

Dana Priest: And the shortest answer: worth following"

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/discussion...
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 01:36 AM
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33. Yes.
Saw that on my Google alerts.
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lukery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 01:45 AM
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35. hmmmm
i didnt get that one.

I have a GoogleNews alert for "Sibel Edmonds" and it didnt come through. What is your search term?
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 01:50 AM
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36. Just "Sibel Edmonds"
Of course I didn't get the Parry one until a few minutes ago. Go figure.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 02:07 AM
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38. On rechecking, it wasn't by Google alert.
I guess it when I was scanning information earlier.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 12:40 PM
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69. Self delete - posted wrong spot
Edited on Fri Jan-25-08 12:41 PM by Junkdrawer
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 02:24 PM
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75. No problem. This thread gets a kick out of it.
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wiggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 01:41 AM
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34. Super interesting. nt
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 02:04 AM
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37. Just posted another thread about a recent article from McClatchey on the "superdollar plot"...
... that was originally the Bush administration pointing to North Korea being responsible for a lot of super high quality counterfeit U.S. currency that lead to us getting newer currency recently.

A while back a German paper did research and conjectured that the quality of this was too high for North Korea to have done it and speculated that it might have been done by the CIA to help fund black ops out from under the scrutiny of congress.

I have a thread here that I just started talking about a newer McClatchy Bureau story that picked up on the German newspaper story and comes to similar conclusions. I wonder if it is tied in with the whole mess that Sibel is looking at too. As I have said here in other threads, I have wondered also if folks like Thomas Kontogiannis who was "secretly" sentenced for money laundering crimes and treated very "nicely", wasn't tied into this scheme too if it was real.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

Might bear looking into where Sibel and others here think that money funding these bribery situations was coming from, and if they might be tied together somehow.
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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 08:35 AM
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50. Without a doubt, anybody that has watched the trajectory of this certain brand of spooks can see it
These bastards think the world is here to serve them. Inflicting crime waves and starving out their own countries people. The only thing it seems one should suspect is more treachery. The propensity seems to suggest they next will attempt to give virtue and dignify treason and murder. Like after all them bringing back dark age practice of torture to solve problems gives insight to how foolish and drunk with contempt they have become. One should ponder, what would one put below them knowing the deeds they have done?
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troubleinwinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 03:46 AM
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39. A K&R to read when I'm awake. Thank you for your work.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 04:01 AM
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40. K&R. (nt)
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 07:06 AM
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41. morning kick
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 07:07 AM
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42. They might have to flee to Peru before their term is over.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 08:45 AM
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51. Or Paraguay
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 07:13 AM
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43. Congress has 90 days to amend or block this legislation
everyone who thinks congress will block/amend raise your hands...

:sarcasm: whatsamatta witchu? dontcha know sterioids in baseball more important? you hates baseball or sumpin? /end :sarcasm:
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lynnertic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 09:18 AM
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55. i missed something- how come they have 90 days to amend or block?
doesn't congress set its own schedule?

Thanks for the help...
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 09:29 AM
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56. not sure... anyone know????
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 07:17 AM
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44. Very important.
Nominated.
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Norrin Radd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 07:24 AM
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45. k+r
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 07:30 AM
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47. k & r to help bring down the republicon traitors to America
for sure...
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Mr_Jefferson_24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 07:43 AM
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48. K & R. nt.
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AtLiberty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 07:45 AM
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49. K & R
!!!
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 09:10 AM
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52. Let's keep this at the top.
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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 09:13 AM
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53. K&R n/t
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 09:14 AM
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54. Write to your newspaper and give them links and ask when they will
start reporting.
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FATCATs Donating Member (144 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 09:51 AM
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57. Why would they panic ?
Its not as though they have anything to fear from our Democratic Congress.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 10:07 AM
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60. It's up to us to make Congress have something to fear.
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gilpo Donating Member (601 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 01:11 PM
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74. Welcome to DU!
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FATCATs Donating Member (144 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 03:12 PM
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78. Thanks for the welcome gilpo
But I've been here awhile, I wanted my old screen name but they said
to just re-register. I messed it up when I signed up, It sits there like a rock
and now nobody can use it.
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sellitman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 09:59 AM
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58. Its Bill Clinton's idea.
Just when will it be Smirky's?

Amazing how Bill is still blamed for everything by the Repiggies.

Holy sheet!
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Oilwellian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 11:42 AM
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65. Just remember...
it was Clinton who appointed Marc Grossman as ambassador of Turkey. And it was under Clinton when the FBI was wiretapping Marc Grossman. I'd like to see more discussion about whether he knew his Turkish ambassador was being wiretapped for suspected espionage.
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AikidoSoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 03:01 PM
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77. Now THAT would be fascinating to know
How can it be investigated? If you run into Bill during this primary season, why not just ask him?
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Oilwellian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 03:53 PM
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84. LOL
I'll be sure and do that. :D
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 10:05 AM
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59. They shouldn't be "in panic." They should be "in prison." (nt)
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bluesmail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 10:15 AM
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61. Kick & R
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 10:45 AM
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62. Up
:kick:
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debbierlus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 11:09 AM
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63. Contact the Presidential campaigns

And, tell them to discuss this....

And, if they don't come out publicly against it. You will NOT vote for them. This needs huge media attention.
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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 06:59 PM
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95. Second that. nt
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 11:39 AM
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64. K and R
Now can we Impeach him? Selling nuke crap to Turkey sounds like an impeachable offense, doesn't it? Wake up Conyers! Stop listening to Fancy Nancy and IMPEACH!
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 12:04 PM
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67. SSDD
And speaking of "same shit, different day," it is safe to assume that the Dems in Congress are already lining up to kiss Bush's butt yet again?
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 12:35 PM
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68. They have to be made aware of what they are doing.
Contact your representatives.
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FATCATs Donating Member (144 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 03:19 PM
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79. Here, Here, Dude
When is enough enough. Its like we LOST the Congresional Elections

Jebus H Christmas
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stubtoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 12:41 PM
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70. Man, lukery, you sure do a great job on these posts.
So well researched and annotated with pertinent links. I noticed that all the news sources (your google link) about this are foreign, mostly Turkish. Media silence in US outlets speaks volumes.

Thanks for the continuing great work.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 12:41 PM
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71. Got caught committing a crime? No problem: get Congress to make it legal!
Retroactively, even.

Oh, your party isn't in power?

No problem. Buy off that party's leadership.
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Oilwellian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 12:46 PM
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72. The documentary "Kill The Messenger" is posted in political videos
It's very well done and has a wealth of information.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
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Torn_Scorned_Ignored Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 12:52 PM
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73. Marc Grossman to Testify in House on Wednesday
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

ATTN DC Bloggers/Media: Marc Grossman to Testify in House on Wednesday
Opportunity for Indy Media to Ask Questions, Since U.S. MSM Won't!

Just in...Marc Grossman, who has been named in the Sibel Edmonds case as allegedly receiving bribes from Turkish and Israeli agents, and warning the Turkish Embassy to stay away from Valerie Plame Wilson's "Brewster Jennings" front company, will be testifying tomorrow morning (Wed.) before a sub-committee of Henry Waxman's House Oversight committee.
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Baby Snooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 02:35 PM
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76. Panic?
Why would Bush panic? He is the king. The emperor. Complete with an empress who sits in charge of Congress. Protecting him.

When Democrats protect the Republicans, there is no longer a democracy. And Nancy Pelosi has made it quite clear that we are no longer a democracy. Her agenda is to use the moral corruption of the Republicans to elect more Democrats. Democrats like her?

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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 03:22 PM
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80. Don't expect Tweety or Blitzer or the powdered faces on the Networks to touch this one--too much
substance
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 03:24 PM
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82. They'd probably need to devote a whole hour to it
can't do that - there could be breaking Britney or Paris news that day.
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FATCATs Donating Member (144 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 03:23 PM
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81. Tell ya what
I live in the Illinois 16th. and we have this Manzullo Repug for life.
But I wouldn't trade him for a Pelosi Democrat, No Way.

If they want to continue to screw things up they can do it in their own names
Not in the name of Democrats, This is the party that used to stand up to these thugs.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 03:37 PM
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83. Kicked and recommended.
Thanks for the thread, lukery.
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 04:40 PM
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85. Perhaps Turkey is also in a panic?
Check out this Kurdish blogger's story about some recent "arrests" in Turkey now too that seem to be timed conveniently after Sibel's allegations of their wrongdoing.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
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santamargarita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 05:07 PM
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87. I said that these fascist pigs would try this days ago...
...blame it on Clinton or make a retroactive law to once again cover the smirking monkey's criminal ass!
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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 05:12 PM
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88. K&R
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lukery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 05:25 PM
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89. new post
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westcor Donating Member (115 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 05:30 PM
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91. these guys are amazing
I wish i could break the law, then go back and make it legal after the fact.. I am so sick of this SHIT, the fact this country is still up and running is shocking to say the least, no body and I mean no body has respect for the US, and its cause of stuff like this
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FreepFryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 05:40 PM
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92. If they're not in a panic, they should be. BUSH ENABLING NUCLEAR TERRORISM = TREASON. (n/t).
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althecat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 06:09 PM
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93. Pandoras box is open... and another rec makes 169.....
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 10:25 PM
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98. Kickkeepitup
Andrecommend :thumbsup:
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