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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 01:20 PM
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Misogyny overcome? A start. Saudi women can now stay in hotels alone
Edited on Mon Jan-21-08 01:45 PM by uppityperson
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080121/ap_on_re_mi_ea/saudi_women_2
RIYADH, Saudi Arabia - Women in Saudi Arabia can now stay in a hotel or a furnished apartment without a male guardian, according to a government decision that comes as the country faces increasing criticism for its severe restrictions on women.

The daily Al-Watan, which is deemed close to the Saudi government, reported Monday that the ministry issued a circular to hotels asking them to accept lone women — as long as their information is sent to a local police station. The decision was adopted after a study conducted by the Interior Ministry, the Supreme Commission of Tourism and the religious police authority known as the Commission for the Propagation of Virtue and the Prevention of Vice. Saudi women, under strict Islamic law, suffer severe restrictions on daily life: They are not allowed to be anywhere with an unrelated man, cannot drive, appear before a judge without a male representative, or travel abroad without a male guardian's permission.

The paper interviewed some Saudi women who complained that they had been severely inconvenienced by the rules banning them from staying in the hotels alone. It quoted a woman identified as saying that she once arrived late at night at King Fahd airport on an internal flight and was denied a hotel room because she was alone. Another woman, Fatima Ibrahim, said her son-in-law quarreled with his wife and daughters and threw them out of the house. When they tried to get a hotel room, they were asked to get a permission from the police.

Saudi Arabia has come under intense international criticism, including from its ally, the United States, especially over its treatment of women in the kingdom's legal system. King Abdullah pardoned a rape victim last month after her case sparked international outcry because she had been sentenced to lashes and jail time for being in a car with a a man who was not her relative.


Edited to add, after further research, I don't see anything about lifting the permission part, looks like they can weasel out that way. Sigh.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 01:36 PM
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1. kick because this is an important humans rights thing.
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 01:37 PM
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2. Male guardian sounds like a name for a cup.
If I were those women, they'd need one if they tried to tell me any of that bullshit.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 01:42 PM
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3. It's odd when something like this is considered good.
Still must tell police, not sure if need permission (just not accompaniment). What a deal.
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 01:46 PM
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4. How kind of them.
They must be patting themselves on the back at how "generous" and "progressive" they are to allow this.

In all seriousness, it's one step forward for oppressed women of Saudi Arabia. Unless they fight like hell to get a lot more rights for several years in a row to build momentum, their oppressors will fight like hell to take this one right back.

We should give women from Saudi Arabia political asylum here in the US and strike Saudis from our "allies" list until they catch the fuck up to at least the next least civilized country in the world.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 01:57 PM
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5. Yup. One small step for women.
I read elsewhere about trying to get women the right to drive. Reasoning behind not driving is they'd have to remove enough coverings to be able to see and you know what would happen then? Men would be tempted to SIN!!!!11 Gotta protect those women against men who have self control.

Every little bit helps, but if it weren't for oil, and politics, things would be different. They will change again, but in the meantime lots of people hurt.
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