Why is the Clinton Campaign trying to avoid following the rules or have them changed?

[berni_mccoy]

I hold the DLC and Clinton campaigns fully responsible for the disenfranchisement of the FL and MI voters and delegates in the DNC. The DLC instigated the states to break their agreements with the DNC and violate long standing rules to move their primaries. They knew exactly what the consequences would be: the DNC would not accept delegates from those states. So why would they do this? Because Clinton, a chair of the DLC, wouldn't win those states and instead of having those states counted, they found a way to not have them counted. What? You say HIllary won the MI primary? Would she have if it was held when scheduled and the people of Michigan were not told that Democrats like Obama and Edwards had abandon their state and they should vote for Clinton. This is exactly the message the Governor of Michigan, another DLC member was sending out to voters and it is exactly why Clinton would not agree to stand with the party. Now people can say, see, she really would have won Michigan anyway. But that simply isn't true.

Don't believe the Clinton campaign would do this? Well check this out: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x85137

They are now suing the state of Nevada to change rules THEY AGREED to last March. It is only after the Culinary Workers Union endorsed Obama that they have decided to sue.

It's going to be like this all the way through to the convention. The Clinton campaign, with the aid of the DLC is going to try to subvert the rules and disenfranchise voters to win.

On edit: For those who have wrongly assumed the candidate I am backing, I am officially endorsing Edwards and have said so on many posts here. I simply am taking the position that the Clinton campaign has committed some egregious wrongdoings and should be held accountable for them by the DNC.

[ursi]

1. The Clintons are looking for a coronation, not an election.

[Tarc]

2. She would have won both, handily

Your faux outrage is amusing though.

[berni_mccoy]

3. Keep dreaming.

[Tarc]

5. Says the one supporting the "fairy tale" candidate

:nopity:

[berni_mccoy]

7. Edwards is the fairy tale candidate?

:rofl:

[EFerrari]

21. I love the obvious democratic values of Clinton supporters.

They inspire me beyond belief.

[Tarc]

22. I find equal inspiration

In the Obamaniacs faux allegations of racism.

[EFerrari]

23. Although not a fan of Senator Obama, I remind you

that the Clinton campaign has already had to fire a staffer for their racist comments depicting Senator Obama as a drug dealer.

There's nothing fake about it.

May your campaign learn to stay the hell out of issues they can't manage and so avoid further embarrassment.

[cooolandrew]

24. ...

[Blarch]

4. HRC suing Nevada is obscene

WTF is she thinking ?

[maddiejoan]

6. HRC isn't suing Nevada

don't believe this bizarre distortion in the OP.

There are many Obama supporters on DU who will tell any lie as long as it slimes HRC.

[mod mom]

11. 1.with ties to the Clinton campaign in its leadership – filed a lawsuit 2."several of the parties

"several of the parties to the suit were there and approved of the process."

READ THIS:

(and btw the DNC filed a motion to intervene ON THE SIDE OF OPENING ACCESS TO THE CULINARY WORKS!)


Last week the powerful, 60,000 member Culinary Workers Union Local 226 chose to endorse Senator Barack Obama after "fierce lobbying" from the three frontrunners. Two days later, the Nevada State Education Association – with ties to the Clinton campaign in its leadership – filed a lawsuit asking a federal judge to shutdown nine casino caucus at-large sites created to allow both union and non-union shift workers to vote during the workday. (On any given day, it would be difficult for these workers to participate without these caucus sites. It will be even more difficult during the busy Martin Luther King, Jr. weekend.) According to theWashington Post, the system was created last March with input from the presidential campaigns and – as meeting minutes reveal – "several of the parties to the suit were there and approved of the process."

-snip
http://www.thenation.com/blogs/edcut?bid=7&pid=270073

[maddiejoan]

13. Geeez --why not blame Kevin Bacon too

I'm sure he has "ties" to this lawsuit as well.

[mod mom]

14. DNC Intervenes-DNC & Clinton on opposite sides of this debate.

DNC Intervenes In Nevada At-Large Lawsuit
16 Jan 2008 10:53 am
The Democratic National Committee has filed a motion to intervene in the lawsuit brought by teachers union against the Nevada Democratic Party's plan for at-large precincts.
Read the motion here.
This means that the DNC wants to preserve the principle that state parties can determine their delegate selection rules, and then, having chosen those rules, submit them to the DNC for the approval.

-SNIP

BTW: it seems as if the DNC and the Clinton family are on the opposite sides of this debate.

http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/01/dnc_intervenes_in_nevada_atlar.php

[maddiejoan]

15. Sorry

I rarely take opinion as fact.

Hillary has said she is not taking sides in this action.

[karynnj]

18. But her lead surrogate Bill did.

Also, any Democrat should be on the side of making it easier, not harder to vote.

What if the week before Ohio, Blackwell had consolidated polling places in the inner city - creating fewer with an increase in how difficult it would be to get there. Is there anyone here who would not have added it to the list of how he suppressed the vote? This is just wrong.

[mod mom]

16. NYT: Debbie Cahill was founding member of Clinton's Nevada Womens Leadership Council.

The Nevada State Education Association has said it would not endorse any Democrat, but some of its top officials have endorsed Mrs. Clinton. The association’s deputy executive director, Debbie Cahill, for instance, was a founding member of Senator Clinton’s Nevada Women’s Leadership Council.
-snip
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/12/us/politics/12nevada.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

[Rageneau]

8. Another false charge.

Let Republicans lie. Why don't we Democrats -- especially those parroting the word 'change' -- stick to the real issues and the real facts, and not be distracted by phony controversies constructed by the MSM and/or the whine-all-the-time Obama campaign.

It is the Nevada Teacher;s Union who is suing, not the Clintons.

Sure, Clinton-haters think they are behind everything troublesome that happens to a campaign, but it's obvious that such people abandon rationality and judgement when it comes to getting a good group-hate going.

Big Dog was interviewed about this yesterday and he set the record straight. The reporter, being a Clinton-hater by profession, didn't want to hear the facts. But Bill laid them out one-two-three anyway. Anyone who wants to know the facts -- as opposed to repeating wild, unsubstantiated charges -- can find that interview and read it.

[Blarch]

10. My bad.

Can I assume she came out in support of the Union then ? ...or is she more like a 'silent partner' ?

[roesch]

12. Not false charge

Please check out the tv interview with Clinton now on You Tube and as the reporter points out his claim of the votes counting five times more is highly unlikely. Look Bill wants his re-election any way he can get it, including cutting down the union. As I have said all along enough is enough.

[berni_mccoy]

17. Teacher Union Officials have endorsed Clinton... JEEZ!

[karynnj]

20. actually they didn't - some of their top officials did

and it is those officials disgracing the union through bringing this suit.

[Bluerthanblue]

9. because winning is all that matters-

I sincerly believe this- as much as I wish it were not true.

There is a frantic desperation on their part, that I've rarely witnessed in any campaign before this one.

And it says really sad things-

[EFerrari]

19. Same old Clintons. n/t

[cooolandrew]

25. It's change Jim but not as we know it.

[berni_mccoy]

26. Nice Trek reference :-D

Since my last name is McCoy, but I'm no doctor.