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ShaneGR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 09:27 PM
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1865 Lincoln 2nd Inauguration Photos Newly Discovered
http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/01/16/lincoln.inauguration/index.html

Slideshow

Incidentally, this was the first time that African Americans participated in the ceremonial parade.
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skipos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 09:31 PM
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1. That guy was too inexperienced to be President.
Those photos are great.
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 06:28 AM
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20. Hadn't he just had four years experience?
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skipos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 10:09 AM
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22. 1 term as a US congressman
A few terms as a Illinois state congressman
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 11:58 PM
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36. For all the hooplah of the Lincoln-Douglas debates...
...people tend to forget Lincoln lost that year.
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 12:38 AM
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37. and that was 10 years before he became president. His job before getting elected: lecture circuit
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 06:21 PM
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41. I can't see them
:shrug:(bad pc)
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 09:32 PM
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2. Wow! That's awesome. n/t
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 09:33 PM
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3. wonder how many of those people actually heard him speaking nt
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ShaneGR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 09:36 PM
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7. I wondered the same..... I would imagine that Lincoln would have literally yelled his speeches nt
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smalll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 03:03 AM
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16. Probably a lot more than you think, because -
1) Up until recently, people knew how to PROJECT their voices (unlike now, where you can go to Broadway, or the opera, or even some little 20-person meeting and the speaker/performer has to be "miked." :puke: )

2) Back then, with no TV, movies, internet, or radio, a speech was real entertainment for people: people had an appreciation for language and the spoken word, and as such, they knew how to be QUIET.
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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 01:36 PM
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29. And there were no boombox trucks driving by. That was the main thing. nt
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 11:56 PM
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34. Amen
The depths to which the art of elocution has fallen in the past half-century or so quite saddens me...
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Poiuyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 12:15 PM
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26. The real first words to the Gettysburg Address...
"Hello!"... tap,tap,tap..."Is this thing on?"
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 09:34 PM
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4. Cool photos.
Especially the second one, with Lincoln in it.

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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 09:35 PM
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5. Fascinating! K&R n/t
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 09:39 PM
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9. Whow--you can see the heavy frost on the trees (think it is frost)
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Thothmes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 09:46 PM
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10. Probably
I see all the the Union soldiers are wearing overcoats.
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 08:43 AM
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40. Probably not frost
According to Robert Krick's recent book Civil War Weather in Virginia, the temperatures recorded in DC on March 4, 1865 were:
7 AM 42
2 PM 64
9 PM 40
Rain that morning, ending around 10 AM
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 09:36 PM
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6. pretty nifty... I love when
something new surfaces...
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Postman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 09:38 PM
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8. I've always wondered how did anybody ever hear what they said...
I mean your voice can only travel so far. Did he yell his speeches to the crowd?

Seems it would have been awfully difficult for people to hear a person speaking from atop a building....
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 09:48 PM
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11. Here's the link to the loc.gov site:
http://www.loc.gov/today/pr/2008/08-012.html
You can view the larger images there.:thumbsup:
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 09:48 PM
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12. I see Skinner and EarlG holding a sign.
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 06:11 AM
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19. Holy Crap! I think you're right!


:rofl:
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 11:22 AM
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25. That's a keeper.
:thumbsup:
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 09:51 PM
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13. CNN made an error in identifying the one photo (inaugural) as one of the newly-discovered.
Edited on Wed Jan-16-08 09:53 PM by TahitiNut



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KatyMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 05:42 AM
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17. I noticed that too
isn't that the pic that has John Wilkes Booth in it?
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 06:03 AM
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18. This particular photo, you can't make out Booth, but two other conspirators...
Edited on Thu Jan-17-08 06:03 AM by Cooley Hurd
...are said to be standing directy below Lincoln:


1 - Lewis Powell (aka Payne) and 2 - John Surratt.

Another daguerreotype, taken very shortly before or after the above photo (in which Lincoln's face is obscured by a thumbprint), shows what is believed to be Booth almost directly above Lincoln.
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 11:58 PM
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35. Booth, at least, was something of a DC celebrity, no?
I mean, the kind of high-society guy who was likely to get an inauguration ticket.
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 11:59 PM
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14. Weird to see DC that undeveloped
If I'm not mistaken that 3rd photo would be at approximately 4th and Constitution today.
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ShaneGR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 07:48 PM
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30. Correct, Most of the population would have been up near Eastern Market
Opposite side of the building up past the hill.
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 11:52 PM
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31. Meanwhile, my old hood...
...of Columbia Heights was still a separate city within Washington County in DC. Did the trolley run yet, back then? I think it did because it was built for all the "suburban" (ie, north of Florida Ave) workers who were brought in for Civil War contracts.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 12:34 AM
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15. K*R Thank you!
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 06:48 AM
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21. That's very odd
Since a photo take during that time period had to be exposed for a couple of minutes at least. Yet these photos are crisp and clear. No blurrin of windblown branches or windblown flag. Hmmm, one might think about forgery.
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semillama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 11:06 AM
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24. Actually, an American flag is blurry in one of those photos
And if it was a calm day, you wouldn't have much movement of trees and flags. I don't think there's a case for forgery here. How would one go about forging the images to begin with, and what would be the point anyhow, since none of the new images even show Lincoln?
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ShaneGR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 12:41 PM
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28. "A couple minutes at least" not true
On a sunny day, with the right camera using the glass negatives, you could have gotten a decent shot with about 5 seconds exposure.
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 11:55 PM
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33. Actually it's somewhat comparable to WWII
The media lagged behind "personal" and "tourist" photographers. Just like WWII is fairly well-documented in color from home videos shot by GI's, the Civil War era is surprisingly well-documented with low-latency (eg, 5-10 second) shutter cameras, which were available for the general market.

In both cases, professional photographers considered those "low" forms of photography.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 10:14 AM
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23. what's that other flag??
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 11:53 PM
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32. US Battle Colors
if we're looking at the same flag.
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 12:24 PM
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27. More here...including close up detail of one photo showing cheering supporters...
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Xenotime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 02:25 AM
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38. Some people appear to be yelling at him...
I know I would have been.
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ShaneGR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 07:12 AM
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39. Actually, they're cheering
Lincoln would of been yelling his speech, and his audience would of been yelling and cheering back at him when he paused. By this time, Sherman would of started his ass kicking of the south.
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