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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 04:05 PM
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Senator's Inquiry Into Megachurch Money Hypocrisy Sparks Church-State Showdown
Senator's Inquiry Into Megachurch Money Hypocrisy Sparks Church-State Showdown

By Rob Boston, Church and State. Posted January 11, 2008.

Six megachurches face inquiries into whether "taxpayers are being taken for a ride."


The New Testament reports that Jesus rarely used fancy modes of transportation to get around. He walked most of the time, although Matthew and other gospels mention that he once rode a borrowed donkey into Jerusalem, where he burst into the Temple and tossed out the money changers.

Nearly 2,000 years later, some who claim to speak in Jesus' name are taking a different view. Consider Bishop Eddie Long, who pastors a megachurch in Lithonia, Ga. With a salary approaching $1 million a year and a nine-bathroom mansion situated on 20 acres, Long's choice of vehicles reflects his opulent lifestyle: He drives a $350,000 Bentley.

Far from casting out money changers, Long is likely to join them. In a 2005 profile in the Atlanta Journal-Constitution, he defended his high-flying ways, insisting, "I pastor a multimillion dollar congregation. You've got to put me on a different scale than the little black preacher sitting over there that's supposed to be just getting by because the people are suffering."

Long's lack of humility has probably done him no favors. At the time, U.S. Sen. Charles E. Grassley (R-Iowa), expressed dismay.

"When I hear about leaders of charities being provided a $300,000 Bentley to drive around in, my fear is that it's the taxpayers who subsidize this charity who are really being taken for a ride," he quipped.

In November, Grassley, who serves as ranking minority member on the Senate Finance Committee, ramped things up a bit. He announced that he is seeking detailed financial information from six mega-ministries, Long's among them.

The move sent shock waves through the evangelical community. Grassley is a conservative Republican whose votes on social issues usually please the Religious Right. (His 2006 rating from the Family Research Council was 87 percent.) But the senator has long had an interest in preserving the integrity of the tax laws and has in the past complained about secular non-profits violating the law.

In 2005-06, Grassley held a series of hearings on Capitol Hill that included testimony from large non-profit groups such as the Smithsonian Institution and the Red Cross. Now he's turning his sights to the religious sector.

Grassley's investigation focuses on six ministries, all of which preach the "prosperity gospel" -- the theological assertion that wealth is a reward from God:

* Benny Hinn, a TV preacher who runs the World Healing Center Church in Grapevine, Texas. Hinn, who travels the globe conducting faith-healing revivals, lives in a seven-bathroom, eight-bedroom mansion overlooking the Pacific Ocean valued at $10 million. It is claimed as a parsonage.

* The Rev. Creflo Dollar's World Changers Church International in College Park, Ga. Dollar drives a Rolls Royce and has large homes in Georgia and New York. He is asked to provide a list of all vehicles provided for himself, his wife, board members and ministry employees.

* Paula and Randy White's Without Walls International Church in Tampa, Fla. In a letter to the ministry, Grassley asks the couple to provide a list of expense account items "including, but not limited to, clothing expenses and any cosmetic surgery for years 2004 to present."

* Joyce Meyer Ministries in Fenton, Mo. Grassley asks Meyer and her husband David to explain expenditures like a $23,000 commode with a marble top, a $30,000 conference table, an $11,000 French clock and a $19,000 pair of vases for the ministry headquarters.

* Kenneth Copeland Ministries in Newark, Texas. Copeland is asked to explain how cash offerings are handled during overseas crusades and to explain the use of a ministry jet for "layovers" in Maui, Fiji and Honolulu.

* Long's New Birth Missionary Baptist Church in Lithonia, Ga. Among other things, Long is asked to explain a church official's 2005 claim that Long no longer accepts a salary from the church but does take a "love offering."


In each case, Grassley is requesting detailed financial information. The ministries are asked to provide audited financial statements, lists of board members, employment contracts and other information.

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http://alternet.org/story/72539/?page=entire
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 04:08 PM
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1. K&R
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 04:10 PM
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2. Time to lock up these con men and women
They are getting away with murder.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 04:12 PM
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3. This is great news! What's surprising is this is a R conducting
the investigation.

K & R
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snagglepuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 04:16 PM
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4. Kudos to Grassley. K&R
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 04:20 PM
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5. maybe it's time to tax churches - then let them do what they want with money
raise it, spend it, subsidize huckster ministers whose main goal is to live it up on the donations of their parishioners.

freedom of religion and freedom from religion - let each philosophy pay its way.

Msongs
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 04:22 PM
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6. If the evangelical community...
Edited on Sun Jan-13-08 04:22 PM by sendero
.. would start cleansing itself these money-Christians, they might get a bit more respect.
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Charlie Brown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 04:25 PM
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7. Quite a shame that Coretta Scott King's funeral was at this schmuck's church nt
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HowHasItComeToThis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 04:39 PM
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8. RELIGION IS A TAX DODGE, PERIOD
Edited on Sun Jan-13-08 04:39 PM by YEBBA
:kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick:
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pleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 11:07 PM
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15. Can we have an AMEN!
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 05:02 PM
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9. No ministers should be paid. They should work like everyone else.
Paul of the bible, a new testament apostle said he worked so that the spread the gospel would not be impeded. Paul was a tent maker. Jesus did not get paid and had no house or transportation. He walked everywhere and only rode a donkey once. He had no pillow. Foot washing was common when the believers met and it's no wonder as to why. Lots of people didn't have shoes. No minister should live and any higher standard than the most poor of the congregation. Why should a poor person give tithes when the minister has cars, a home, health insurance and gets his kids sent to college? These people don't read or understand the bible of which they claim to believe in.
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drexel dave Donating Member (452 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 05:15 PM
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10. Becoming a preacher is about the smartest thing a crook can do
He or she gains instant immunity for all of their crimes. All they have to do is to put the word Reverend in front of their name, and voila!
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 05:15 PM
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11. Good to see Grassley turning up the heat. He's also been supportive
of whistle-blowers, much more than most Republicans.
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 05:18 PM
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12. Good for Grassley
These are con artists and thieves.
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 10:31 PM
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13. Tax the mega-churches
Tax them all big or small ...Because if they hide what they make,and what it is spent for they are frauds and have used that money to BUY power and fund a coup to force a theocracy upon us.

Fuck organized religious crime.
Go Grassely, GUT the greed of the preacher pigs.And hang them out to dry.

About time the rich pastors of the 'prosperity' gospels were held accountable..Next the corporate pigs need to go to slaughter..
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Didereaux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 10:41 PM
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14. Never fear oh fundies, when Obama is elected Fundy Pope you will once again be protected
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Spirochete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 01:59 AM
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16. "Would Jesus Wear a Rolex?"
WOULD JESUS WEAR A ROLEX
(Margaret Archer / Chet Atkins)

Ray Stevens - 1987


Woke up this mornin' turned on my TV set
There in livin' color was somethin' I can't forget
This man was preachin' at me.. yeah.. layin' on the charm
Asking me for 20 with 10,000 on his arm

He wore designer clothing and a big smile on his face
Selling me salvation while they sang Amazing Grace
Asking me for money when he had all the signs of weath
Almost wrote a check out.. yeah.. but then I asked myself…

Would He wear a pinky ring, would He drive a fancy car
Would His wife wear furs and diamonds, would His dressing room have a star
If he came back tomorrow there's something I'd like to know
Would Jesus wear a rolex on His television show

Would Jesus be political if he came back to earth
Have his second home in Palm Springs.. yeah.. but try to hide his worth
Take money from those poor folks when He comes back again
And admit He's talked to all those preachers who said they'd been-a talking to Him

Would He wear a pinky ring, would He drive a fancy car
Would His wife wear furs and diamonds, would His dressing room have a star
If he came back tomorrow there's something I'd like to know
Could ya tell me - Would Jesus wear a rolex
Would Jesus wear a rolex
Would Jesus wear a rolex on His television show
Would Jesus wear a rolex on His television show
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