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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 04:55 PM
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Hillary's Labor Problem: Her Campaign Mgr. is CEO of a UNION-BUSTING PR Frim
Edited on Sat Jan-12-08 04:57 PM by Dems Will Win

I really don't understand how Hillary supporters can overlook SO MANY faults. She is no progressive. There will be no change with her -- and Penn as Chief of Staff! Yuck-- trade Rove for Penn.

June 16, 2007 | There must be moments when the leaders of America's labor movement mutter the dark lament of the late Rodney Dangerfield, because so often they "get no respect" from the same Democratic politicians who depend on union endorsements and funding. This week they could certainly feel that way, after voicing their "concern" over the actions of a huge union-busting public relations company headed by Sen. Hillary Clinton's top political strategist, Mark Penn -- and getting no satisfactory response.

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Among the most controversial aspects of Penn's firm's business, from the liberal perspective at least, come under the category of "labor relations," a traditional euphemism for suppressing workers and thwarting their right to organize. Before Penn scrubbed his firm's Web site, it advertised this specialty and noted the firm's capacity to confront "Organized Labor's coordinated campaigns whether they are in conjunction with organizing or contract negotiating." Not the most graceful wording, but the idea is clear enough.


And in practice, as Berman reported, Burson executives have used these skills against two major unions seeking to organize workers at Cintas, the nationwide uniform-supply company, which may be the single most ambitious union drive in North America today.

So here was a conflict of interest that seemed both direct and salient. Sen. Clinton is a declared supporter of labor rights who often tells workers that she is on their side. Besides, she badly wants the support of the Teamsters and UNITE HERE, the unions seeking to organize the Cintas employees, not to mention all the other labor organizations that might help her win the nomination and the presidency. But on the issue of workers rights, her top advisor has been on the other side.

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On June 6, in response to Berman's story, Teamster president James Hoffa and UNITE HERE president Bruce Raynor sent a letter to Clinton about Penn, expressing their "distress" over his firm's role in "the effort to undermine workers right to organize at Cintas, a campaign our unions are involved in, is particularly disheartening." Their letter went on to say that they "do not want to see you or the Democratic Party embarrassed. We look forward to hearing back from you on this matter." Other labor leaders, such as AFL-CIO president John Sweeney and Service Employees International Union president Andrew Stern, have privately told the Clinton campaign of their misgivings about Penn.

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Obviously Penn and Clinton felt no fear in blowing them off, assuming that they would retreat without demanding satisfaction. Unless and until labor worries more about demanding loyalty from its supposed friends -- and less about embarrassing sometime political allies -- both its leaders and its members, and those it seeks to represent, will keep getting the Dangerfield treatment.

http://www.salon.com/opinion/conason/2007/06/16/hillary_and_mark_penn/


PLEASE RECOMMEND IF YOU DON'T LIKE MARK PENN
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 05:00 PM
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1. Penn's Frim is nasty, all right.
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 05:01 PM
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2. Mark Penn's involvement in her campaign has been one of the primary reasons...
Edited on Sat Jan-12-08 05:03 PM by Cooley Hurd
...why I have had a great deal of difficulty getting behind her candidacy.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 05:01 PM
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3. I do find it amazing myself.
Edited on Sat Jan-12-08 05:01 PM by dkf
On the other hand the Clinton's have so much baggage that in order to be a supporter you probably have to get over a lot more than that.
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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 05:14 PM
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6. Then the Clintons pasased NAFTA and impoverished millions and weakened unions
Hillary sat on the WALMART BOARD and said NOTHING about Sam Walton busintg unions for SIX YEARS, then the Clintons ended Welfare after 5 years, making homeless hundreds of thousands of single black mothers and their children.

It's a lot for a supporter to ignore.
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MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 05:52 PM
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10. Yep.
The Clintons and Penn do seem to have an affinity, don't they?
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 06:50 PM
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15. Uh, it wasn't only "black" mothers and children......
But I certainly agree with you, and it's something I can NEVER forgive!

Those women and children were so unimportant to the Clintons that they weren't even tracked, so we don't know how many were homeless, how many died, etc.

UNFORFREAKINGGIVEABLE!!!
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kenfrequed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 12:31 PM
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27. I agree
I was so disgusted with the Clintons for handing the Repugniks "Welfare Reform" Something even that jerk Regan couldn't quite manage.

I started asking myself "Why the hell am I voting for democrats that vote like republicans."

This is why Edwards and Kucinich are the ONLY democratic candidates I feel like supporting at this point.
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ursi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 05:01 PM
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4. In Nevada it is Rory Reid! Employed by a LV law firm that represents
major corporations with union employees!



snip...

Reid’s sons — Rory, 40, Leif, 35, Josh, 31, and Key, 28 — work for Nevada’s largest law firm, Lionel Sawyer & Collins.

Rory Reid is a partner in the firm and was a Nevada lobbyist before his election to the Clark County Board of Commissioners in November. Leif Reid is a litigator who has represented mining and resort industry associations in Nevada.

snip...

http://www.electricnevada.com/pages03/reid_brothel.htm

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Faux pas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 05:14 PM
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5. You also need to check out her role in outsourcing to India
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 05:21 PM
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7. Shit, union-busting is the least of his sins
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JAbuchan08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 05:38 PM
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8. kicked and returned
it's not about Hillary, it's about what she does.
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RufusTFirefly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 05:41 PM
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9. David Sirota on Penn and union-busting

As Hillary Clinton bashed corporate America for union-busting this week at a Washington convention of labor-schmoozing Democratic politicians, her chief campaign strategist and pollster, Mark Penn, must’ve been grinning at the rich irony. He’s the Worldwide President and CEO for Burson-Marsteller, an international PR conglomerate known for, well, busting unions, The American Prospect’s Mark Schmitt notes.

Beware the Evil Labor Bosses, Burson-Marsteller’s website warns. “Companies cannot be caught unprepared by Organized Labor’s coordinated campaigns.”

Pro-Union Hillary Harbors Labor Foes

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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 05:55 PM
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12. You see, that's the advantage of triangulating.
You can't be accused of flip-flopping when you simultaneously support BOTH sides.
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kenfrequed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 12:33 PM
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28. Or at least pretend to...
Because big business knows when the chips are down that the spineless DLC triangulators will lean their way.

Besides fortune 500 can read the tea leaves, they know a republican presidency is unlikely, so why not support the most corporate available democrat. And whoopie...its a two-fer! Because you also pick the least electable democrat of the mix. Hooray!!!
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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 06:27 PM
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13. That's why Hillary is suing to close the union precincts!
Edited on Sat Jan-12-08 06:28 PM by Dems Will Win
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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 05:54 PM
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11. What a snake.
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 06:48 PM
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14. Status-quo..
...is an understatement. Pffft! Edwards was being TOO nice with that one.
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hamerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 06:54 PM
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16. Another nail
in Hillary's coffin, as far as I am concerned.
JE in '08
dumpbush
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 07:20 PM
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18. I've been saying I respect her but this...
...even makes that hard. I still do but...it ain't easy considering some of this stuff.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 06:57 PM
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17. Patti Solis-Doyle is Clinton's campaign manager
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 08:00 PM
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19. Who cares... what about Mark Penn?
...and his union-busting outfit Burson-Marsteller?:shrug:
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 09:43 PM
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20. *chirp*chirp*
:shrug:
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 10:55 PM
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22. I care
because the OP contains a blatant factual error, right in its headline.

And go chirp yourself - some of us have lives.
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 06:03 AM
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24. For someone who "has a life," you post a lot more than I do...
;)
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 11:19 PM
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23. Penn is a chief strategist and his firm donated over 50% to GOP in 2006-their
clientele are among some of the worst corporations that pose a threat to democracy.
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Orwellian_Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 10:01 PM
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21. K&R n/t
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 06:24 AM
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25. Obamites sense defeat, grow more desperate.
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 09:36 AM
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26. I'd like to see John Edwards pick up this line and run with it. This is the first
I've heard of it, and I'm not surprised. She's Bush Lite.

Scares the shit out of me.
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