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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 03:47 PM
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Whoopsie! Kristol's First New York Times Column Attributes Quote To Wrong Author
Edited on Mon Jan-07-08 03:49 PM by CatWoman
So those critics who argued against the appointment of Bill Kristol as a New York Times columnist because of the quality of his work -- rather than merely because of ideology -- will now have yet more proof that they were on to something.

That's because it looks as if Kristol's first column will already require a correction: Kristol seems to have attributed a quote to the wrong author.


In the column, Kristol quotes Michelle Malkin as follows:

Still, as the conservative writer Michelle Malkin put it, “For the work-hard-to-get-ahead strivers who represent the heart and soul of the G.O.P., there are obvious, powerful points of identification.”

Only Malkin is now claiming that she didn't write this. Instead, she notes, the quote actually comes from Michael Medved:

It’s not just Christian zealots who recognize Huckabee as “one of us”; I’ve spoken to non-religious Russian immigrant Jews who love him because he’s down-to-earth, plain-spoken and unpretentious non-celebrity. For the work-hard-to-get-ahead strivers who represent the heart and soul of the GOP, there are obvious, powerful points of identification. In this context, his embarrassing fumbles in reacting to Benazir Bhutto’s assassination haven’t destroyed his campaign: anyone who wanted a candidate with foreign policy credentials would have turned away from Huckabee long ago.

Not exactly up to The Times's standards, to be sure. Maybe the way to look at this is that the paper's standards were lowered to Kristol's level?

Bill Kristol, quota hire.


Special thanks to TPM Reader TT for sending this one in.

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/horsesmouth/2008/01/whoopsie_kristo.php

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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 03:48 PM
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1. Hmmm...didn't he also do that with the 9/11 attacks?
:shrug:
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XOKCowboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 03:52 PM
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7. No I think he just flat out lied then... nt
:)
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 03:49 PM
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2. Give Billy-boy a break...
I often get confused by all of those right-wing hacks too. As they are all spewing the same exact crap (Bush talking points).
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 03:49 PM
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3. the fact that he would WANT to qoute Malkin is repulsive
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 03:50 PM
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4. "Bill Krystol is brilliant"
According to Jonah Goldberg who was on NPR at noon today. Jonah has a new book out tomorrow. "Liberal Fascism." You know it will be freaking dynamite, just like a PNAC prediction on Iraq.
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11 Bravo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 06:04 PM
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23. How can Jonah Goldberg find the time to write anything ...
when he is still firmly attached to mama's tit?
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 03:50 PM
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5. With Kristol, the truth is not important
He is nothing more than a propagandist
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ingac70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 03:51 PM
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6. They'll have to dedicate a full page to corrections....
with this joker on board.
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Naturyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 03:52 PM
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8. I hate Kristol, but...
This is actually the fault of the copy editing staff. They are supposed to fact-check, and when it's the NYT, things like this shouldn't get through.

But Kristol sucks mule nuts anyway. That's just a given. :)
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 04:05 PM
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11. no it's not
it is the writer's responsiblity to avoid errors in fact.
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Naturyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 04:06 PM
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13. Yes, but it's understood there are going to be errors anyway
Edited on Mon Jan-07-08 04:06 PM by Naturyl
It's the job of copy editors to catch them. I used to do copy editing.
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ovidsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 05:45 PM
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20. Yup, you're right.
Kristol isn't blameless, but slips like this are why newspapers (and, in fact, all responsible media outlets) need good editors to back up their writers.

As far as his place at the NYT is concerned?? Let's just say he makes it easier to keep track of what our adversaries are thinking.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 03:56 PM
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9. Looks like the Times will have two columns for the next year
Kristol's weekly column and a companion piece a day or two later correcting his misstatements. Great hire, Times; though I'm still stumped by what sort of expertise or insight Kristol brings to the table that the Times needed to pay him top dollar for a weekly 350 words. It's not like he was about to be snapped up by a competing publication.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 04:02 PM
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10. "Bill Kristol, quota hire." - So, the neocons support affirmative action too.
:D

CatWoman! :loveya:



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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 04:05 PM
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12. Swampy!!
:hi:

:loveya:

I've got to make it down there one of these days :)
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 04:22 PM
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15. Mardi Gras is on Feb. 5th... come on down!!!
Who knows if New Orleans will be here in the future, since the U.S. Government decided not to rebuild our levee system and wetlands. Another hurricane will wipe us out.

It's 75 degrees here in NOLA today, and bet we'll have nice weather then too. :D




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Spirits



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momster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 05:25 PM
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19. I remember sitting at the Cafe Du Monde
My friend had just picked up a delicious beignet coated with powdered sugar when I asked her for the time...she looked like the Abominable Snowman! I swear to the FSM it was unintentional! (But funny....)
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 06:03 PM
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22. Never wear black when eating beignets!
The Abominable Snowman! :rofl:

We can always tell who are the tourists. :D

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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 04:10 PM
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14. K&R #4 n/t
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 04:39 PM
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16. #5 for Neo-Con Affirmative Action!!!
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HowHasItComeToThis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 05:03 PM
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17. PROPAGANDISTS, ONE AND ALL
SHOULD BE ARRESTED FOR INCITING TO RIOT.

THEY WANT WAR FOR THEIR OWN PROFIT

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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 05:22 PM
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18. Always wrong.. and lacking the brains to do it well. . .
Good move Times...
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Graybeard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 05:54 PM
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21. What in the world was the NYT thinking in hiring him?
What did they think he would bring to the paper...credibility? Not one thing that he has ever said about the invasion and occupation of Iraq was even close to being correct. The fact that he is a shill for the PNAC agenda is well known. This will be another embarrassment for the paper.
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mtnester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 06:09 PM
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24. Whoopsie
Malkin, Medved, Medivac, medication, medill, mediocre, media, medical, metamusal, metronome

Sheesh...they all start with the same sounds..cut a guy a break. Apparently he writes by the Huked on Fonix method.
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 06:11 PM
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25. Quoting Medved and Malkin????
:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

What deep thinkers!

:sarcasm:
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 06:12 PM
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26. A "respected conservative intellectual" who reads Michelle Malkin and Michael Medved.
Edited on Mon Jan-07-08 06:13 PM by Marr
AND can't even be bothered to check his quotes. Uh-huh. Real "serious person" there.
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 06:14 PM
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27. And by the way-- where does Kristol get off talking about "working hard to get ahead"?
I believe he's a member of that "daddy gave me everything, including my career" clique of neocons.
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Mr_Monday Donating Member (220 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 06:15 PM
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28. KRISTOL WORKS FOR THE NYT!?
HOLY SHIT! Get that man out of there now! He deserves no outlet for his warmongering idealism. Fuck him and all his neocon friends.
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 06:23 PM
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29. Bwahahahahahahahaha!!!
Has this asshole ever been right about ANYTHING?
What was the NYTimes thinking?

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