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warrior1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 12:01 PM
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Watch this. Eyewitness to the assassination of Bhutto.
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Ezlivin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 12:06 PM
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1. Thanks
Good discussion by an eyewitness and photographer.
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soulcore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 12:06 PM
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2. Here that folks?
"There were a couple shots fired, then she fell back into the car, then there was an explosion"

That crap about her not having any bullet wounds and dieing as a result of hitting her head on the sunroof is complete and total bullshit!
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 12:10 PM
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3. Haunting images, what carnage
:cry:
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 02:10 PM
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29. so sad, and she was such a beautiful woman.
she loved her country and her people.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 12:12 PM
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4. John Moore...Getty Images, "Shots were fired and she went down."
Doesn't sound like she hit her head and died. It sounds like she was SHOT and died. No?
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 12:14 PM
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5. Hard to say. She might have been trying to get back inside for safety
and hit her head. I doubt we'll ever know the full story.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 12:23 PM
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7. Hitting your head on a window frame isn't going to kill you.
You're right. We'll never know the truth. The cover-up is complete.
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 01:34 PM
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18. Blunt force head trauma can't kill you?
Good to know; all this time I'd been worried about it.

I am not a coroner, but I was a mortuary clerk in the military, so I do have some idea of the kinds of wounds that kill people. From the accounts I've heard, there are three likely guesses I would make:

1. Shot while her head was above the sunroof
2. Fell and hit her head while falling/ducking
3. Concussion from the explosion

Or some combination of the three

Not to mention tinfoil-hat ideas like:
4. Poisoned by her guards
5. Shot by someone in the car

etc.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 12:38 PM
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9. The photog said she "went" down, not "ducked" down
after he heard the shots. Or maybe she had a sudden attack of the vapors.

:eyes:
rocknation
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 12:51 PM
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12. Maybe she fell?
:eyes: Back at ya, dude.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 12:56 PM
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13. AFTER being hit by the bullets? That works for me fine.
And it's "dudette" to you!

:)
rocknation
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 12:58 PM
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14. Who knows? Her husband won't allow an autopsy, and the
'official report' is that she had no entrance wounds either from a bullet or shrapnel.

It doesn't seem really out 'there' to me that she could have been startled by the shooting and fallen/jumped whatever back into the SUV. My own grandmother died many years from hitting her head, so it can happen.
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 01:46 PM
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19. well, she must have been standing on the car seat
it's not unlikely that falling off the car seat would have looked similar to being hit by a bullet and "going down". Especially from 20 yeards away.

I don't think we'll ever know what really happened, but folks love a conspiracy theory.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 02:09 PM
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28. he heard the shots
I think PBS had this on last nite, they had a whole hour dedicated to her.
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 01:55 PM
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20. Yesterday morning the report was two gun wounds, one to the head, one to the chest.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 12:21 PM
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6. Chilling
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jakem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 12:34 PM
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8. i dont get it-
why try to misinform about how her assassination happened?

oswald this is not.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 12:42 PM
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10. To make it look more like "an unfortunate accident"
which makes Musharaf look less incompetent (or complicit) and makes Bhutto look like less of a martyr. The bullets missed her, the bomb missed her, but the lever on the sunroof didn't--yeah, right.

:headbang:
rocknation
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 01:56 PM
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21. for one, the shooter can probably be linked back to musharaff.
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College Liberal Donating Member (561 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 12:45 PM
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11. Her death has less impact if she "ducked and oops, she killed herself"
It's all about stopping the move among people who would say she "died for her beloved country" If she ducked and hit her head :eyes: then her impact, or after-effect does not mean as much....
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 01:59 PM
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25. Bullets can be traced back to where they were made. We can't have that.
:(
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warrior1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 01:03 PM
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15. Another report by John Moore
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 01:16 PM
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16. I can't bring myself to watch this just yet (if ever).
I was still on vacation yesterday and when we were getting ready to have breakfast my niece came running downstairs and yelled for us to turn on the tv. I'm still stunned.

I can wait on the "snuff film"..........
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 01:58 PM
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23. It's just still pics...
Some graphic, of the victims of the bombing, but nothing of her, really.
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IDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 01:22 PM
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17. Wasn't the initial report (presumably from an eyewitness) "shot in the neck and chest"?
That sounds very specific, much more so than "shots rang out and she fell/ducked/disappeared".
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 01:57 PM
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22. exactly.
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Beelzebud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 01:59 PM
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24. Last night the story was that she died from a gunshot to the neck.
And had a 2nd gunshot to her shoulder.

this shit just isn't adding up now...

Anyone else tired of being spoon-fed an endless stream of LIES?
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warrior1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 02:08 PM
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26. You can hear the shots in this clip
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judaspriestess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 02:09 PM
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27. such hope in their eyes.......
only to have their hopes and dreams shattered again with more violence. So sad. I hope her death begins to bring about the change they desperately want.

RIP
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