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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 04:56 AM
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"...the man who killed Osama bin Ladin" - Bhutto statement Nov 02 to David Frost
Edited on Fri Dec-28-07 05:20 AM by autorank
While being interviewed by David Frost on Nov 02, 2007, Benazir Bhutto referred to "the man who killed
Osama bin Ladin."
She was talking about warnings she'd received that her life was at risk. She also
named those who were reported to be threatening her.

"Yes, well one of them is a very key figure in security. He's a former military officer. He's someone who's had dealings... and he also had dealings with Omar Sheikh (Ahmad Omar Saeed Sheikh), the man who murdered Osama bin Laden." (6:00 or so in the tape)

DUer Gateley posted a thread in Political Videos. At that point,the discussion indicated tha it was probably a slip of the tongue.

That seems reasonable since nothing much has come of the statement since then.

HOWEVER, consider this. She made the statement, David Frost, no slouch as a reporter, failed to challenge it. This deserves follow up. I'm sure that Frost will weigh in on this. Could be nothing but the only alternative to that is, a stunning story.

Excellent interview. Quite a leader.




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIO8B6fpFSQ

Grabbed from Citizens for Legitimate Government
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 05:15 AM
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1. Early Morning Kick

:kick:
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siri2k Donating Member (240 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 02:28 PM
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27. Mid-afternoon kick
n/t
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lvx35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 05:16 AM
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2. That is really strange.
The way she pauses and says "uh" before saying OBLs name too...It doesn't have the characteristics of a usual quick slip up. Very weird.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 05:19 AM
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3. I'm a Frost watcher on this one.

He will have to say something about this and he will. He's not your typical blow dried tee vee
journalist is hie?

Also, Pearl, who was a real hero journalist, and bin Ladin are so different, why that mistake.

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lvx35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 05:56 AM
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11. You think he'd mention THAT.
I've heard journalists correct things much more minimal.
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 05:22 AM
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4. He CAN'T be dead, who will be our Batman super villain, the Penguin?
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 05:26 AM
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5. How about this guy...
...The Minister of Death

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rhiannon55 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 11:31 PM
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44. just itching to get his theocracy up and running
:scared:
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 01:50 AM
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47. He's salivating.
He picked up on the death metaphors after his hunting trip. He laid out the phesants (a second class chicken) before the cameras and made some quip comparing the birds to his opponents. He's a very twisted guy.
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dantyrant Donating Member (278 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 05:35 AM
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6. If it's a slip of the tongue,
it's one HELL of a slip. She was talking about arguably the world's most wanted man being murdered! No, that doesn't pass the smell test.

I have a diary about it over at dKos -- a surprising 72% of those who took the poll believe OBL is dead.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 05:37 AM
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7. Well, that means that a) the Republicans have thrown in the towel and b) KOS
now allows conspiracy theory users ;)

Good news in both cases!
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dantyrant Donating Member (278 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 05:51 AM
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9. Amazing how CT has come to include
arguments backed up by evidence in this new post-9/11 world, eh? ;)
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 05:54 AM
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10. They can no longer engineer the Truth. Ask any prosecutor what % of crimes are conspiricies.
Edited on Fri Dec-28-07 05:57 AM by autorank
She or he will tell you, almost all the big ones.

So those who refer to this administration accurately as a "criminal operation" need to do the
trickle down two step and look at the evidence.

Nice eye opener ;)

On edit Ray McGovern knows.
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dantyrant Donating Member (278 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 06:09 AM
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12. And Bob Baer...
who Sy Hersh called the CIA's best undercover field officer:

I would find it very difficult to believe the CIA would deliberately destroy evidence material to the 9/11 investigation, evidence that would cover up a core truth, such as who really was behind 9/11. On the other hand I have to wonder what space-time continuum the CIA exists in, if they weren't able to grasp what a field day the 9/11 conspiracy theorists are going to have with this especially at a time when trust for the government is plumbing new depths.

I myself have felt the pull of the conspiracy theorists who believe that 9/11 was an inside job, somehow pulled off by the U.S. government. For the record, I don't believe that the World Trade Center was brought down by our own explosives, or that a rocket, rather than an airliner, hit the Pentagon. I spent a career in the CIA trying to orchestrate plots, wasn't all that good at it, and certainly couldn't carry off 9/11. Nor could the real pros I had the pleasure to work with.

Still, the people who think 9/11 was an inside job might easily be able to believe that Abu Zubaydah named his American accomplices in the tape that has now been destroyed by the CIA. (Link)


For someone who used to brief Poppy Bush, McGovern has been a great voice for the reality-based community.
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 09:14 AM
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18. Yeow!
No wonder they destroyed the tapes.
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 10:27 PM
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41. * wasn't lying when he said he "doesn't think much about Bin Ladin"
Because he knows perfectly well the dude is dead and has been since the spring of 2002.
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dantyrant Donating Member (278 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 11:37 PM
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45. I agree...
I don't understand the reluctance among some on the left to accuse Bush about lying about the events of 9/11 and al Qaeda -- he's lied about everything else.
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deacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 05:41 AM
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8. k + r n/t
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 06:14 AM
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13. How many times did Bin Laden die?
I hope Mushie has prepared his Mausoleum as well as Benazir prepared her own (her father's really) because he's next. New army chiefs in Pakistan usually take out the old ones.
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Sancho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 06:19 AM
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14. Doesn't seem like a slip to me...
:dem:
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 06:50 AM
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15. K&R. (nt)
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 07:41 AM
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16. K & R...
:kick:
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 07:58 AM
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17. I also noticed she doesn't name Bin Laden as
someone possibly responsible for the earlier attack on her entourage but names the son of Bin Laden at one point as a leader of one group. I thought that was interesting.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 12:48 PM
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20. Wow
That's a very good point. But were we not told that bin Laden was the 'bad apple' and the rest, like the family flown out after 9/11, were just fine.

I'll go give it another look.

What a shame this is.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 01:25 PM
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25. I caught that too
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 09:16 AM
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19. Another "Bin Laden" Tape Coming Out Today
I read that Zawahiri orchestrated her death.
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siri2k Donating Member (240 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 03:45 PM
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30. Yeah, they pop up every time the Bush or the GOP needs a boost...
or distraction.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 10:53 PM
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43. Exactly
I wonder do 'they' have fun making the video?
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siri2k Donating Member (240 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 12:49 PM
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21. K&R!
n/t
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Beelzebud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 12:50 PM
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22. I would love to ask Frost why he didn't follow up on that...
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siri2k Donating Member (240 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 01:26 PM
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26. Right, Frost should have asked a follow-up question!
n/t
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 01:23 PM
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23. This is the first time, I've heard of this.
Thanks for the thread, autorank, you do good work. :thumbsup:
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 01:24 PM
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24. Frost did not question it at all
He either missed it or accepted it as fact.

Also she feared an attempt on her life from Bin Laden's SON. Not Bin Laden himself, but his SON.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 03:19 PM
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28. Yeah - maybe the rest of the world already knows this -- it's just us who
keep being told that OBL is alive and continuing to plot against us.

In my opinion, she was very precise in saying that about OBL. And she certainly didn't seem to slip up on anything else she was saying -- I doubt if she'd slip up on OBL being killed....


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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 03:23 PM
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29. Apparently Nora on MSNBC doesn't know
She was just talking about OBL. If Benazir was correct re OBL there are loads of bogus tapes around. :rofl:
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 03:48 PM
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32. Wonder if they will get the memo
before the next tape.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 04:51 PM
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35. I doubt it
Edited on Fri Dec-28-07 04:52 PM by malaise
The thing is there are photos surfacing with Benazir and Thatcher and poppy Bush so they'll have a hard time describing her as 'not credible re this one. She's always been one of them.

This should be fun.

Sp.
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siri2k Donating Member (240 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 05:14 PM
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39. I've come to realize that Norah doesn't know too much about...
anything at all. :)
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 03:49 PM
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33. exactly we are being told lies, for this thuggish government
to take away more of our liberties, that is their way of controlling us. Could it be they (our regime) is afraid of the American people?
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dantyrant Donating Member (278 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 05:12 PM
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38. Agreed...
What could she have meant to say? People have said it was a slip up... but it's hardly the kind of detail one slips up on!
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 03:47 PM
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31. kick
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 04:28 PM
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34. K&R
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 04:53 PM
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36. As long as there are turbans and fake beards on this planet, "Osama" will live and make videotapes.
Expect them to start falling like summer rain once the '08 election heats up.
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 04:57 PM
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37. Raw Story's got a link.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 10:23 PM
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40. I think saying that someone killed someone --- especially Bin Laden ---
would have to be more than a "slip of the tongue" --- !!!

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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 10:46 PM
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42. Google "omar sheikh" and osama bin laden...
Edited on Fri Dec-28-07 10:47 PM by mzmolly
She seemed a bit nervous when she disclosed that BTW. I wonder if it was supposed to be hush/hush for obvious reasons?

My husband suspected the Bushonista immediatly, I poo-pooed it, but now I wonder....
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 07:49 AM
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49. Who knows?
That's the problem as I see it. Information from our news sources is lacking. They just pass stories around now and don't have many foreign correspondents anymore or investigative journalists.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 12:06 AM
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46. bump n/t
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 04:19 AM
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48. Thanks, Welcome to DU!!!
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siri2k Donating Member (240 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 04:10 PM
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50. Autorank, your articles page rocks!
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