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MikeNearMcChord Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-23-07 04:10 PM
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Angry Populace Burning British Surveillance Cameras
"Motorists Against Detection, the vigilante anti-speed camera group have announced a summer of MADness which will see them target for destruction all speed cameras in the UK. It’s now going to be a period of zero tolerance against all speed cameras, said their campaigns director Capt Gatso. (((A remote descendant of General Ludd, I reckon.)))

"The group claims speed cameras are just money-making machines and they have given the authorities long enough to prove their worth. The first camera to fall in the summer campaign is in south east London on the A2 at the Sun in the Sands roundabout on-slip heading northbound towards the Blackwall Tunnel.
http://blog.wired.com/sterling/2007/12/burning-british.html
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-23-07 04:14 PM
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1. *sigh* I miss the days when the only things people burned were bras.
:cry:

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fenriswolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-23-07 04:35 PM
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2. how much till they have tax payer dollars
paying the salary of a policeofficer whos duty it is to gaurd a camera whos only function is to moniter the populace and to make sure they do not speed and if they do it will be their to make them pay. whew now thats knee deep facism. go vigilantes.
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Leopolds Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-23-07 05:40 PM
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8. Watch Your Neighbors -- report vandalism of surveillance cameras!
I think this new wave of surveillance camera vandalism is an interesting development,
provided it does not get "out of hand" and spread to the US, ahrm, ahrm.

These beauties are all over the city of Baltimore.



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Leopolds Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-23-07 05:45 PM
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11. I actually suspect most Americans don't mind these "watching you and protecting you 24/7" boxes
They set up at dangerous drug intersections.

I am not sure about the ethics, though.

They say it's no different than having a cop on every street corner.

Well... what if your neighborhood had a cop on every street corner,
standing there, 24/7? I imagine we'd feel just as "safe" right?

What happens when there's one on every street corner?
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fenriswolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-23-07 09:03 PM
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16. you're right if we were being monitered in public places
it might prevent crime. systems that are created for good can do good. What if someone comes and perverts this system. starts using information gathered from this system for their own puprposes and maybe perhaps against the commen welfare? We've seen it happen time and time again. Do you really want to create another system like that? one that would be hard to have oversite over? in the current political climate? with facism one step away do you really want to give them even more surveillance power?
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-23-07 05:10 PM
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3. Can you even imagine this happening
in the good ol US of A?

Of course we might tear down a TV studio if Amurkin Idol got canceled.
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DanG2012 Donating Member (27 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-23-07 05:29 PM
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6. not yet
but who knows what the future holds.
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-23-07 05:14 PM
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4. Reading the OP, I had figured that they were going after the cameras on city streets, etc.
The ones that are more about social control rather then the ones on highways.

I've been waiting for this to begin.
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Downtown Hound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-23-07 05:22 PM
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5. A good start. n/t
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CGowen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-23-07 05:38 PM
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7. .
:thumbsup:
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-23-07 05:42 PM
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9. It's about time people got pissed off about this shit, imho. (nt)
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Snarkoleptic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-23-07 05:44 PM
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10. Worse yet is the plan to use electronic toll paying devices to issue tickets.
Edited on Sun Dec-23-07 05:45 PM by Snarkoleptic
Since the distance between toll plazas is a known, a little basic math on time from plaza A to plaza B and voila...instant revenue!
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-23-07 05:45 PM
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12. Did you know that, when traffic lights were first installed, there were protests?
Edited on Sun Dec-23-07 05:45 PM by Perry Logan
People couldn't believe the government's imposition of power--forcing them to stop their vehicles because of a mere light. But now that sounds daffy. We have totally acquiesced to this crippling imposition on our freedom.
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-23-07 06:04 PM
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13. Did you read the article?
"He added: In many areas the cameras have not saved one life - the statistics for road deaths haven't gone down. In some areas they have actually gone up - in Essex, for instance, which has a high density of cameras there are more people being killed. We are now planning to target any and all cameras until the Government sees sense and rethinks its road safety policy. Before we had speed cameras we had the safest roads in Europe - since their introduction this is no longer true."

Of course, if you can prove that traffic lights resulted in more highway deaths ...

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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-23-07 06:07 PM
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14. In seriousness, and as much as I'm not always fond of them, I support such cameras.
It can hopefully be argued why gunning it at yellow/red changeover was the right thing to do; but some deliberately go through red lights when it's been red for some time. That, other safety concerns, snotty high school kids that don't give a shit about much of anything, and so on, anything to remind people driving is a privilege is something I'm going to support.

Just as long as they lock up the filthy pedestrians who glare at you as they slowly cross the street, legally or otherwise. Road safety is everyone's concern and if people can't control themselves, we may as well welcome the government. :shrug:
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-24-07 01:01 PM
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17. I blast my horn and hold it when assholes run red lights
Running red lights is antisocial behavior that might KILL somebody.
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-23-07 06:17 PM
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15. Good.
I always thought, though, that the first ones that would be targeted are the ones in that one town that has them everywhere with cops sitting at the monitors and yells at the citizens if they are doing something wrong.
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