Irony alert: MSNBC showing actual pix of torture chambers of Al Qaeda

[babylonsister]

in Iraq, but won't even admit we torture or probably have similar places. :wtf:

[spanone]

1. our media is a bigger issue than bu$h*....he'll be gone soon

[helderheid]

2. Yes, absolutely.

[NightWatcher]

3. EVERYONE knows we torture. if the US govt acknowledges it, the admin is admitting to war crimes

that is why they avoid it like the plague.

This will only go round and round. No one will ever admit it. There are pics, witnesses, tapes..........but no one within the govt will mention it.

[thereismore]

4. Ours are a lot cleaner. Aren't you proud?

:sarcasm:

[mmonk]

5. The purpose of this is the selling of barbarism to the people

through disgust and fear.

[babylonsister]

6. Well, the disgust worked, but for the wrong reasons. nt

[Judi Lynn]

7. Absolutely pathetic. We all are supposed to turn collectively toward the East and summons more

hatred for those who would use torture, while insisting when _Bush uses torture it's because he wants to keep us safe.

Amazing, isn't it?

[Jim__]

8. How do we know they're al Qaeda's torture chambers?

Does anyone believe anything they're told by this government?

[K Gardner]

9. I'm glad I'm not the only one who jeered in ironic disgust when

I saw that story. Now, if they'd only run a piece on OUR US Sanctioned Torture Chamber at Guantanamo.

[alfredo]

10. So is that supposed to justify us torturing them?

[fed-up]

11. but ours have doctors and psychologists to keep the prisoners within a hairs length of dying nt

[walldude]

12. Similar places? We probably just took it over...

kind of like Abu Grahib..

[Guitarman]

13. W.W.J.W.

Who Would Jesus Waterboard?

[L. Coyote]

14. TRUST NOT the M$M = Pentagon's $96M Propaganda Project for Iraq

Iraqi Media Project = $96M Propaganda Project

"military's practice of paying journalists to write articles"

How transparently convenient, that when torture becomes the issue, somehow an enemy
torture site is turned up and, of course, their atrocities are worse than Bush's crimes.
Does someone thinks this is just a matter of making sure the enemy is the more evil of the two?

Your tax $$$ purchased media outlets in Iraq, and bought reporters too. The USA controls every word.

We have to ask,
"To what extent is this happening today and everywhere?"
"To what extent is this happening with other issues too?"

I have been told by major news announcers, "We just read it."
And, worse still, they do not even know who writes it for them!

"To what extent is any news just propaganda and BUSH LIES?"


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Pentagon OK's Propaganda for Iraq (and Possibly Elsewhere)
Source: Los Angeles Times, March 4, 2006 - http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-infowar4mar04,0,1357115.story?coll=la-home-world
http://www.prwatch.org/node/4517

Declaring it "within our authorities and responsibilities," the top U.S. general in Iraq, George Casey, announced that the Lincoln Group program that covertly places stories written by U.S. troops in Iraqi newspapers will continue. Navy Admiral Scott Van Buskirk is also reviewing the Iraq propaganda program. His review was previously described as finished but not public .....

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The Sword Employs the Pen = "the military's practice of paying journalists"
Center for Media and Democracy » Spin of the Day » Feb 07, 2005
http://www.prwatch.org/node/3260

The Pentagon is investigating "the military's practice of paying journalists to write articles and commentary ... and also looking more broadly at Pentagon activities that might involve inappropriate payments to journalists," writes Associated Press. CNN reported on Pentagon involvement with two news websites, Southeast European Times (focused on the Balkans) and Magharebia (focused on North Africa). Some 50 journalists were paid by the Pentagon through a private contractor, Anteon Corporation, ..........

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Pentagon Paid Reporters for Stories Overseas
February 06, 2005 9:00 AM ET
http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1000789872

WASHINGTON (AP) The Pentagon’s chief investigator is looking into the military’s practice of paying journalists to write articles and commentary for a Web site aimed at influencing public opinion in the Balkans, officials said Friday.

At the request of Larry Di Rita, chief spokesman for Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld, the Pentagon’s inspector general, Joseph Schmitz, is reviewing that case and also looking more broadly at Pentagon activities that might involve inappropriate payments to journalists. ...............

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Covert propaganda >> Instances of covert propaganda
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Covert_propaganda

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US Journalist Quit Pentagon Iraqi Media Project = $96M Propaganda Project

Wednesday, January 14th, 2004
U.S. Journalist Quits Pentagon Iraqi Media Project Calling it U.S. Propaganda
http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=04/01/14/1555223

Listen LINK

We talk to a longtime TV producer about the massive problems he saw in the new U.S.-funded Iraqi Media Network, which he said became an "irrelevant mouthpiece for Coalition Provisional Authority propaganda, managed news and mediocre programs." The U.S. has awarded a $96 million contract to a U.S. producer of communications equipment, Harris Corp., to create a U.S.-funded national media network in Iraq.

According to the head of Harris Corp, the Iraqi Media Network will have 30 TV and radio transmitters, three broadcast studios, and 12 bureaus around Iraq. .....


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Pentagon pays Iraqi papers to print its 'good news' stories
Jamie Wilson in Washington - Dec 1, 2005 - The Guardian
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,1654661,00.html

Faced with suicide bombings, claims of Iraqi death squads, and kidnappings, the Pentagon has come up with an innovative solution to solving the problems in Iraq: buying good news. Using defence contractors or intermediaries posing as freelance reporters, the military has been paying Iraqi newspapers to publish stories written by a military propaganda unit lauding the US mission.

According to the Los Angeles Times, the articles are translated into Arabic and placed in Baghdad newspapers where they are often presented as unbiased accounts by independent journalists. Records obtained by the newspaper indicate the US has paid to publish dozens of articles since the operation began this year, with headlines such as "Iraqis insist on living despite terrorism" and "more money goes to Iraq's development".

One military official told the LA Times the military has also bought an Iraqi newspaper and taken control of a radio station, ...........

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BUSH's LIES: "federal agencies spent $1.6 billion on what some Democrats called 'spin.' "

Bush administration propaganda and disinformation
From SourceWatch
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Bush_administration_propaganda_and_disinformation

The Bush administration "spent $1.4 billion in taxpayer dollars on 137 contracts with advertising agencies over the past two-and-a-half years, according to a Government Accountability Office report released by House Democrats" on February 13, 2006, Richard Williamson reported for Adweek. "With spending on public relations and other media included, federal agencies spent $1.6 billion on what some Democrats called 'spin.'" ............

The GAO reported that the "six largest recipients of ad and PR dollars were" Leo Burnett USA, $536 million; Campbell-Ewald, $194 million; GSD&M, $179 million; J. Walter Thompson (JWT), $148 million; Frankel & Company, $133 million; and Ketchum, $78 million. "The agencies received more than $1.2 billion in media contracts, according to the report," according to Adweek. ........


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