Tim Hardaway now says he DOESN'T hate gay people.

[muntrv]

Hardaway Apologizes Again for Remarks
By Associated Press
Mon Feb 19, 6:02 AM


Miami Heat's Tim Hardaway moves the ball against the ...
MIAMI - Former NBA All-Star Tim Hardaway apologized again Sunday for his anti-gay remarks, telling a Miami television station that he "didn't mean" to say what he said in a South Florida radio interview last week.

Hardaway, in an interview at his home with CBS affiliate WFOR, acknowledged he made a major mistake by saying "I hate gay people" when asked how he would react to having a gay teammate.

"I don't hate gay people," Hardaway said. "I'm a goodhearted person. I interact with people all the time. ... I respect people. For me to say 'hate' was a bad word, and I didn't mean to use it."

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[Horse with no Name]

1. That wasn't "mispoken"

It was gut-wrenching vile hatred.
Please. Give some credit Hardaway. We heard the venom in your comments.

[MrSlayer]

2. Right.

And I don't really hate Chimp.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

3. $$$

nt

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

58. I think you're mistaken...

It's more like $$$$$$$$$.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

62. I stand corrected.

[Bluebear]

4. he made a major mi$$$take alright....loser. nt

[WindRavenX]

5. mmhmm, sure.

He's a bigot--he's just sorry other people found out.

[MadMaddie]

6. Tim Hardaway to the NBA Commission can I have my

endorsements back now that I don't hate Gay people?:sarcasm:

Too little, too late.....

But it just occurred to me it's interesting that the media and everyone went after Hardaway (Black)for making his homophobic comments

but

they don't go after the (White) Republicans and the so called Christian leaders touting their hatred towards gays.

Just sayin.....don't get me wrong I really don't have sympathy for him.

[6000eliot]

12. I think this is an excellent point MM.

White people are rarely called on their homophobia, even though they might be saying things far more vile than Hardaway said. Falwell and Dobson deliberately insight violence against gay people and nothing happens to them.

[Bluebear]

16. The Christofascists are usually very subtle though...

they "hate the sin about love the sinner" :puke:

They insist gays can "change".

Plus their Bible always "backs them up".

Hardway on the other hand said point blank he hates gays, they don't deserve to be on earth.

[TheWatcher]

55. I can definitely see your point.

However, this kind of crap transcends skin color. Admittedly the Media probably went after him not out of genuine outrage of his comments, but for whatever agenda that served their doing so.

No one should ever assume that the Media who continues to enable this fascist regime running our country will do ANYTHING in the name of simply doing the right thing, or serving the people.

They don't.

However, since these days whenever one of these pieces of garbage that does something like this backpedals like a chicken shit coward after they sober up to the reality of the consequences they face, you literally need an interpreter to translate what they really said, here is my public service to those who have not already figured it out......

THE BACKPEDAL:

"I don't hate gay people,"

TRANSLATION:

"I really do hate gay people, but now that I figured out that they're going to take my money, I'm sorry I shot my mouth of about it."

THE BACKPEDAL:

"I'm a goodhearted person." I interact with people all the time. ... I respect people. For me to say 'hate' was a bad word, and I didn't mean to use it."

THE TRANSLATION:

"My publicist put this shit together for me after I shot off my mouth. Shit, I hope it's enough to get my bling back."

THE BACKPEDAL:

On Sunday, he acknowledged "that was very bad."

THE TRANSLATION:

"It was bad having my bling taken away because I expressed my true feelings about what a bigot I am. I hope the public buys this bullshit so I can go on hating gays in private and I can get my bling back."

THE BACKPEDAL:

"It was like, you know, I had killed somebody. ... I never knew that this was going to escalate that high,"

THE TRANSLATION:

"Fuck man, all I said was I hate gay people. It's not like I shot someone in the face or raped someone like some of the other athletes do. Man, you'd think I played for the Cincinnati Bengals or something. I'm just a bigot, not a thug or a murderer. Why can't I hate gay people in peace. Nobody died or anything."

"Now I gotta say all this shit I don't really mean or believe, because I gotta get my bling back. Stupid Queers. I sure am sorry I had to take shit for all this.

"So I don't hate gay people. Hating gay people is bad. Can I have my bling back now, Commissioner Stern?"

Have fun lying in that bed you made, Tim.

And be sure to always sleep on your back.

That way they can't get you from behind.

Fucking bigot.

[marmar]

7. It's amazing how the loss of endorsements will help you find righteousness....

Next he'll be a guest star on Noah's Arc.....Too bad, Tim. That's the high cost of bigotry.

[spanone]

8. Another Miracle 'CURE' !!!!!!

Thank you Jeeeeeezuz.:sarcasm:

[FreeState]

9. I don't want an apology - I want action

If Tim is sincere he needs to do something to fix the damage he has done. Saying Im sorry will not do it. There are thousands of GLBT youth he has damaged with his thoughtless and cruel words.

I say he needs to volunteer for 2 hours a week for a five year period at a homeless shelter for GLBT youth. Then I might forgive him.

[Bluebear]

10. He's not sincere and I don't want him NEAR GLBT youth.

This is strictly a crying jag over his lost endorsements. One does not recover from that deep a level of hatred in one week.

[Horse with no Name]

17. Thank you.

I'm getting sick of these hate-filled idiots apologizing, spending the day with the gay-mayor or going to rehab and those that feel that is enough atonement.
Let the filthbag wallow in his hate.
Marginalize him. Don't coddle him.

[FreeState]

32. Excuse me?

Excuse me? How is demanding that someone backup an apology with years of service to right the wrong coddling him?

If you don't want him around youth that is fine - suggest something else. But if you feel there is no redemption for his actions maybe you should just say so...

[Horse with no Name]

35. Let me just ask you this

Do you think that he would embrace a member of the KKK? They spill the same hate.
Before you "apologize" and say that nobody got hurt...realize that there are probably some of his fans out there that are willing to react to his hate and go beat them up some "queers".
I'm sorry. His hate was real. He might have wished he didn't reveal it...but there is no atonement for that type of hate.

[FreeState]

38. ???

Uh that is exactly why I said I did not want an apology - I wanted action - and action that was sustained over years.

[brentspeak]

116. No atonement for that type of hate?

Why not?

[Midlodemocrat]

147. Agreed.

:applause:

That kind of hate doesn't just go away with an 'apology'. He's a bigot, pure and simple.

[WinkyDink]

56. He might act, but his thoughts are still his thoughts, and he expressed them

very clearly.
And if he shouldn't have used the word "hate", as he now says, what word WOULD he now use? Loathe? Abominate?

[FreeState]

33. Got a better idea?

Got a better idea? After all it gets us no where if we condom someone without giving them a way to make it better...

[Horse with no Name]

36. He isn't serious about this. Why assume that he is?

He is trying to save his public image but make no mistake, his private person hasn't changed it's mind.

[FreeState]

37. Well that is your opinion

I feel, in my opinion, we aught to give him, and every homophobe like him notice that an apology will not do - only time and lots of hard work.

[Horse with no Name]

40. Since it is an opinion board--yes it is my opinion

What I heard was a visceral hatred towards gays.
That kind of hate doesn't go away in a week.

[FreeState]

42. But that is not what I said is it?

What I heard was a visceral hatred towards gays.
That kind of hate doesn't go away in a week.

I never said his hate had gone away or I accepted his apology anywhere. I said I wanted action from him over YEARS.

[Horse with no Name]

44. I'd be leary

He would do anything to save his career...doesn't mean that he will absorb anything.:shrug:

[FreeState]

46. Well Im skeptical too

Well Im skeptical too, and not only of him - Snickers, the guy from Friends, Mel Gibson, etc etc - they all have made apologies with no action to back up their apologies - so Id say they really never meant what they said. Bigots seldom do say what they mean. I think conditioning them that all they have to do is say Im sorry and everything will be A-Okay is BS. We need to tell them, spend your time and money for years and prove to us your not the ass hole you look like you are. :)

(I don't know anyone that watches AMC outside of my partner and myself so sorry if the story was a little out there LOL).

[WinkyDink]

57. But that isn't the point. Hardaway didn't DO something to atone for; he FEELS something.

How does one change their REAL FEELINGS?

[FreeState]

63. Oh thats not what I meant

I meant that his action, which were based on his feelings, did harm to the LGBT community and their families. Its that harm I want to see him repair with actions and time.

[Orsino]

149. His hate is his own problem.

I'm delighted that he's retracted it, however clumsily and insincerely. As long as he doesn't let his personal demons out to play, he can heal on his own time.

Given the level of hatred he expressed, I'd agree that he shouldn't be around minors. Some other form of community service might be helpful--but we'll never really know, will we?

[Catherine Vincent]

11. Too late, idiot.

n/t

[Old and In the Way]

13. Sounds like he has a post-NBA career as a Republican politician.

I'm surprised he didn't blame the media for distorting his words.

[Botany]

14. "I have skills" T Hardawy in a 1985 - 87 Nike spot

Attn. Tim H,

The people who made you up for your t.v. spot .... they were gay.

Wanna give the money back, now?

[Solly Mack]

15. weekend rehab?

[NewJeffCT]

61. Maybe the same folks that "cured" Ted Haggard?

They seem to work miracles.

[Solly Mack]

64. If I ever get in hot water over anything, I swear I'm going to rehab

Apparently there's a rehab for everything and afterwards life is just peachy keen

truly makes a mockery of the good (actual) rehab can do

[mondo joe]

18. God save me from all the "good hearted" people out there.

I care more about actions than hearts.

[DRoseDARs]

19. I love how, in his first apology, he specifically said he was apologizing BECAUSE HE WAS TOLD TO...

Yeah, this sounds about as sincere. :eyes:

[karlrschneider]

20. Yeah, only because "despise" wasn't in his vocabulary.

...

[rocktivity]

21. Randi Rhodes said it best: "When people show you who they REALLY are

BELIEVE them!"

And if a white player had said he hated blacks, I doubt he'd invite him to spend the day with him!

:headbang:
rocknation

[Warren Stupidity]

22. Maybe he went to the same facility where Ted got all de-gayed

and they took all the gay they extracted from Ted and pumped it all over Tim and now voila Tim just loves them gays.


It seems reasonable to me.

[demosincebirth]

23. Thats it!

[k_jerome]

24. apparently he has come to grips with his own homosexuality. nt.

[Bluebear]

25. Yes, that's correct since he 'must be a closet case'.

That was a quick conversion.

[k_jerome]

26. seems reasonable. nt.

[Horse with no Name]

27. PAB.

Passive.Aggressive.Bullshit

[Bluebear]

28. Que?

This post or the ones it is commenting on?

[Horse with no Name]

30. You know I love you BB

;)
It wasn't meant for you.:hug:

[Bluebear]

31. awww

:hug:

[BuyingThyme]

29. Fantastic. I'm glad this ended well.

It could've got ugly.

[RagingInMiami]

34. Well, I think that ....

Ooops, sorry, I forgot that this topic was off-limits to heterosexuals.

[hulklogan]

47. Are we still going through this?

The gays can do no right around here, can we? Stick up for ourselves against the homophobia on DU and now some people think we don't want to play nice with the heterosexuals.

I hope we're still allowed to comment on the non-homosexual threads.

[RagingInMiami]

48. Well, if you're a gay Latino

Then you can comment on immigration threads.
}(

[hulklogan]

49. As a gay white male of non-immigrant parents

I guess my posting options are limited ;)

[Bluebear]

50. Everyone who makes anti-gay comments must be gay to some posters

There is no evil, no hate in the world, just self-loathing gays. :eyes:

[JackBeck]

51. No one ever said that.

But gay friendly posters did say they would defer to a GLBT's opinion about a topic and how they felt.

Is this what you have an issue with?

[Starbucks Anarchist]

88. You nailed it.

:hi:

[sniffa]

53. oh right

the person who said that was you.

[Canuckistanian]

39. Bzzzzzt. Sorry, time's up!

You had a chance NOT to show you were a homophobic nazi, but you missed that 3-point throw.

Hope you do well in your next career!

[k_jerome]

41. 3 point throw. lol. nt.

[Initech]

43. So now he's a hypocrite? What an ass.

[salin]

45. aka "I saw the light" when I realized I was 'screwn' professionally

per the NBA taking action to almost 'blackball' him per his comments (per making money as a spokesperson/retired NBA player).

Sorry Mr. Hardaway - you went so far out per ugly hate speech - laughing along the way during the interview - to allow an "appology" and "restatement" to mean any thing at all.

[Neshanic]

52. Cue defenders of the indefensible. But he spent a DAY with the gay mayor!

He said that he was sorry. He said that it was a mistake.

Meanwhile back at his agents office, if he still has an agent, the phone is not ringing, and it won't for a long time. It does not get more blunt than what he said. Rhandi Rhodes is absolutely right.

Now if he is kissing Ricky Martin on a gay variety show in a skit about "Brokeback Mountain", with him dressesd as Carmen Miranda doing Chica Boom, and after the show goes bar hopping in South Beach with a gang of hunky scantily dressed bodybuilders complete with pics of all kinds of dudes hanging all over him, and the next morning goes to a youth gay crisis center and PERSONALLY apolgizes to kids struggling with coming out, maybe, just MAYBE I will cut that fucker some slack.

[TheWatcher]

54. Tim Hardaway doesn't like to lose money.

The cat's out of the bag, Tim.

You are filth. You are a bigot. The whole world knows it. You are exposed.

May you reap the consequences you so richly deserve.

Apology not accepted.

And by the way Tim, the feeling is mutual.

Next time you are in Seattle, stop by the club Neighbors while you are out on the town.

I know a few people who would LOVE to discuss your little problem with you.

[niyad]

59. "I didn't realize people would get mad at me for showing that I am a class-a JACKASS,

a truly disgusting homophobe, who is still mired in 19th century BS about gays. I shouldn't have expressed my hateful, disgusting feelings out loud--didn't realize that words have consequences, and people just might take offense. and now, I'm losing money. whaahhhhhhhhh"

When I first saw all the "shower" posts the other day, I had absolutely no idea what they meant, and didn't have time to enquire. when I heard KO that night, and learned what it was all about, I was absolutely disgusted (sorry, don't watch sports, don't know, don't frigging CARE, for the most part, but this got me). For some sick reason, in this society, overpaid athletes are held up as role models. Just what kind of a sick, perverted role model is this? I personally hope he loses all his endorsements, whatever perks come with being an overpaid persona.

The other thing that pisses me off is the idea that a mere "I'm sorry" makes up for spewing that kind of garbage in the first place. The parable of the nails in the fence always comes to mind. "I'm sorry" doesn't correct the damage that was done, EVER. nor does spending a day with the people who have, in all likelihood, been injured by one's actions or remarks. I honestly don't know what might even begin to redress the wrong and harm of this remark, but hanging around with a gay mayor for a day isn't it.

[underpants]

60. DAMN! and he had that nomination all but rapped up

I guess it is back to McCain and Guiliani then

[Name removed]

65. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[JackBeck]

66. You won't be here long.

Buh-bye!

[mondo joe]

67. Another member of the Taliban heard from.

[LostinVA]

68. Go play in your sewage playground, you fucking troll

[sniffa]

72. i think i'm faLLing in Love with you

[JackBeck]

73. Back off. He's all mine!

[sniffa]

74. i'LL wrestLe you for him

[JackBeck]

75. Only if we are covered in baby oil.

[sniffa]

78. i was thinking jeLLo

then the jeLLo sheriff can get invoLved.

[JackBeck]

81. Let's just make out.

[sniffa]

82. ok, fine

but can cboy4 come anyhow?

[JackBeck]

85. The more the merrier.

[sniffa]

weeee

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

[JackBeck]

91. I just invited swimboy, too.

[LostinVA]

77. Nah, you can tell he's overcompensating for something, gentlemen

[JackBeck]

79. Besides his small

brain?

[sniffa]

80. weLL if i foLLow many peopLe's Logic

he's obviousLy gay! is that what you're getting at?

[LostinVA]

87. Actually, I meant he has a small, teeny, minute

non-throbbing manhood.

But yeah, he must be gay. Just like Bush and Hitler.

[Richard Steele]

111. Rest assured: Someday, when he least expects it....George Takei WILL have sex with him!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[Swamp Rat]

84. LOL!!!!

:hi:

[bicentennial_baby]

89. awwww, we queers hate you too!

isn't that nice?!

[Bluebear]

94. Stop, you're making me HOT.

It's so hard finding a good verbal abuse top. :eyes:

[bicentennial_baby]

98. ....

:spray:

[Starbucks Anarchist]

97. Go home and fuck your mother.

[JackBeck]

109. More like...go upstairs and ....

[LostinVA]

119. hehehehehhe

[KitchenWitch]

114. "welcome to DU - don't let the door hit you on the way out"

[acmavm]

117. Whoa. Do you know where you're at? This isn't the Phelps

family website.

Oh I got it. That's you, isn't it Fred?

[Dukkha]

122. but * said he wanted to screw you in the ass!

you are Bin Laden right? so this is where you 've been hiding

[Bluebear]

125. .

.

[myrna minx]

129. So you're a card carrying member of the American Taliban?

How pathetic that you are wishing the death of your fellow Americans. :puke:

[JackBeck]

137. ....

:patriot:

[myrna minx]

141. It seems like our dear visitor has so much in common with Osama bin Laden.

:hi:

[JackBeck]

144. True.

Glad you got to get in on the fun.

:hi:

[LeftyMom]

134. And you kiss your Mama with that mouth?

:wow:

[bicentennial_baby]

136. With tongue, I'd bet

:D

[LaraMN]

135. Until I read this post, I thought all homophobes were " ignorant."

Now, I see that "ignorant" is insufficient,
and "dumb enough to fashion themselves a crown of their own pliable fecal matter" is more appropriate.

Wear it with pride, honey.:eyes:

[Arger68]

138. Didn't I see that user name on

"To Catch a Predator" last night??

[Midlodemocrat]

148. I think it's sad you weren't in the towers when they fell.

Asshole.

[Name removed]

69. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[JackBeck]

70. Going out in style, I see.

[sniffa]

76. he wants his frozen pizza

[LostinVA]

71. Having fun reposting this, you little-dicked fuck?

[swimboy]

83. Aren't you just the cutest thing!

My stars, even got Post No. 69! You're coming on like gang-busters. Do you feel like you are finally home, found your people?

Please post a pic, you sweet-assed hottie! :9

[JackBeck]

86. COme join me, sniffa and cboy. We're having a hot make-out session.

[LostinVA]

92. I'll be the token lesbian and take photos for gay.com

[bicentennial_baby]

95. I'll be the token Bi Poly chick and do a webcast

:D

[LostinVA]

99. We can make out and stuff (just don't tell teh SO)

[bicentennial_baby]

103. Eh, bring her along!

the more the merrier!! :bounce:

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

145. *GROPING SNOG*

[JackBeck]

100. LOL

:rofl:

[JackBeck]

96. Just start making out with haruka. It'll be one big, gay orgy. Casue that's what we do.

Have orgies.

[LostinVA]

102. I can do that -- all we sexual deviants do is have sex and try to rape straights

[JackBeck]

107. We all need to be in the shower while this is happening, right?

[LostinVA]

108. Hell yeah -- and don't forget the gerbils!

(someone needs to save this thread for Haruka)

[sniffa]

127. but where do we fit the LittLe kids in aLL of this?

wouLdn't be a party without the deLicious tots.

[JackBeck]

128. Hmmm. Excellent point.

[LostinVA]

139. Who do you think we lure with the gerbils?

DUH.

[JackBeck]

140. LOL. Note to self: add to recruitment ideas list.

[LostinVA]

143. That way, the gerbils can multi-task

This IS 2007 you know, Jack.

[bicentennial_baby]

105. Polys do that best

It's gonna be a hotttt party :D

[JackBeck]

130. I'll bring the drugs. You bring the toys.

[bicentennial_baby]

132. Word. I have a whole trunk full

Quite an array...something for everyone :D

[JackBeck]

133. That's what I'm talkin' about. Bring it on!

[LostinVA]

142. Do you have the inflatable phalluses???

It ain't a PARTEE without them!!!

[swimboy]

93. I've just been waiting for an invitation!

[LostinVA]

90. Damn, I know some gay men who'd love to tap you

If they were dead, maybe, because none I know are that insane.

[swimboy]

101. Umm

Is that you replying to me?

Cause I might cry. :cry:

[LostinVA]

110. Sorry!!!!

[Starbucks Anarchist]

104. I think it's sad you weren't an abortion.

[LostinVA]

112. Know what?

The best part of him ended up on the sheet.

[swimboy]

113. Gotta disagree cause there was some DNA in that.

[LostinVA]

120. Damn -- true

[Starbucks Anarchist]

123. The sheet was the real victim in that situation.

[Richard Steele]

106. Methinks someone doth protest WAY too much!

You're not fooling anyone, you know!

[KitchenWitch]

115. whaddya want on your Tombstone?

[brentspeak]

121. I want their IP address on their tombstone

[KitchenWitch]

124. Sounds great to me!

:hi:

[brentspeak]

118. One good way of preventing trolls from getting on DU: Publish their IP addresses

That would enable one to eventually find out their real names. And trolls hate the idea of people knowing their real names.

[Bluebear]

126. Ever notice how the conservative mind obsesses over 9/11?

If it's not using the twin towers to say "it's why we fight (the wrong countries)" it's to use them to wish that ______ was in them when they fell.

[JackBeck]

131. And the gays...

[Plaid Adder]

146. But don't worry, Tim--George Takei still LOVES sweaty ballplayers!

If you haven't seen it yet, for God's sake go here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aA20dKc3kK8

I personally don't care whether Tim Hardaway personally hates gay people or not, as I suspect I wouldn't like him much either. But at least his comment has produced one friggin' HILARIOUS riposte from an apparently underrated Star Trek actor.

C ya,

The Plaid Adder

[mdmc]

150. his closet must be gettin small

ha!

[NMMNG]

151. Funny, I don't believe him

Maybe because he's a &%$#@!* liar.