Huckabee is dangerous.

[Cyrano]

Earlier today, I told a friend that Huckabee was dangerous. I explained that, given the past seven years, someone like Huckabee could not be trusted with the powers which Bush has claimed (stolen).

When questioned on my statement, I replied "Ask me that when you find yourself in a gas chamber." My friend became angered and I told her that there were many German Jews in the mid 1930s who would have laughed at such a thing happening.

She called me an asshole and hung up. This is a friendship that I'm going to have to patch up. But here's my question.

Aside from being direct, was I wrong?

[EFerrari]

1. If you're wrong, I'm wrong, too. n/t

[Herman Munster]

2. it's an opinion that is not in the mainstream of thought

So yeah, I could see why she thinks your an asshole.

[liberalnurse]

10. OOPS! Excuse me.........

This is private huh?:blush: :blush: :blush:

[liberalnurse]

3. Absolutely dangerous!

I sure hope the reugs take him down.

[mitchtv]

4. no gas chambers

Just camps in the desert

[MrScorpio]

5. Huckabee is a very dangerous fucker

Why?

Because is a TRUE BELIEVER who thinks God is talking to him

He's absolutely the LAST person who should be in the White House

[MissB]

6. You were perhaps wrong to be so direct.

But that may also be personal preference. You could've come at it sideways - like by asking your friend if she submits herself graciously to the leadership of her husband (or, if she is single, would she ever?)

[Mz Pip]

7. He may be a

fundie but I don't see any evidence to lead me to believe he would be rounding up people and shipping them off to gas chambers.

I think he's dangerous because he is ill prepared and clueless as what it would take to be president.

Mz Pip
:dem:

[EFerrari]

11. So was Junior. And he managed to get over a million people dead

and God knows how many tortured.

[Mz Pip]

15. Mitwit

scares me more. He's cold and calculating. Seems very Narcissicistic to me.

Mz Pip
:dem:

[EFerrari]

22. I can't argue with that. That's just who the base wants.

A narcissist and an authoritarian.

[cali]

28. me too. he scares me much more

and he's much likelier to be the repuke nominee.

[JohnnyLib2]

18. Exactly. And Huckabee stands to pick up many Bush voters.

I want to think he'll fade, but the danger is alive for now.

[Mz Pip]

21. I don't see too many people

who voted for Bush voting for Hillary, Obama or Edwards. They may stay home if they don't get an acceptable GOP candidate but I don't see them crossing over in huge numbers. Maybe some who are really fed up with the war will but most will vote Repug or stay home.

Mz Pip
:dem:

[JohnnyLib2]

26. Heavens, no.

I didn't mean crossovers. I meant that he has some appeal to the R voters who kept Bush in. My main thought is do-not-underestimate a continuation of the regime we have now.

On edit: looks like post 20 is along the same lines.

[Mz Pip]

30. Maybe

but he really starts to have to win big for the money to come in.

I sort of see Huckabee as the GOP version of McGovern. Don't get me wrong, I loved McGovern and cast my first presidential vote for him. But the powers that be in the Democratic party pretty much turned their back on him when he got the nomination. And that was that.

I just don't see the big wigs who control the GOP getting behind Huckabee. They'll blow him off and regroup for 2012.

Mz Pip
:dem:

[Herman Munster]

12. yeah gas chambers are too out in the open

You have to dispose of bodies you know. There is pesky evidence and all those organizations such as Amnesty International poking around.

Sending "enemey combatants" to Guantanamo so they can be "disappeared" is much more in their style.

[Mz Pip]

25. Oh good grief.

Just not liking a GOP candidate because of his positions isn't good enough. We have to throw Nazi Germany into the mix. :eyes:

Mz Pip
:dem:

[kestrel91316]

27. "I don't see any evidence to lead me to believe he would be rounding up people and shipping them..."

No, but I have no doubt he'd stand idly by while people got stoned, or even cheer it on.

We don't let mullahs of ANY stripe run things in this country. Not now. Not ever.

[AndyTiedye]

34. He DID Advocate Rounding Up HIV+ People (No Gas Chambers, Yet)

[Blue-Jay]

8. Comparing the possibility of a Huckster presidency with the holocaust

was a real dick move.

[provis99]

9. Huckabee will never be president. I actually hope he wins the nomination

He will go down faster in the general election than Barry Goldwater in 64, against ANY democratic nominee.

[Cyrano]

14. Many people said the same thing about Saint Ronnie. P.S. He won.

[EFerrari]

24. That's what I said about Bush Jr. I laughed. n/t

[kestrel91316]

29. Me, too. I said he was too obviously stupid and a drunk.

[Mz Pip]

31. Bush was hand picked

by the GOP. He was given full support of the powers in the party. Not so with Huckabee.

Mz Pip
:dem:

[tularetom]

13. I can't tell you how many friends I've lost in the past 7 years

and you know what? Fuck 'em if they're that goddamn stupid. Life's too short to stress yourself listening to those asswipe talking points every time you get together with these people. Ironically most of my ex friends are working class people who have been royally fucked in the ass by the bush administration policies and were too stoopid to realize it.

[Triana]

16. He's a religious extremeist...

...and all religious extremeists are dangerous - ESPECIALLY when they sit in the White House or in any branch or arm of government where they can ram their own "morals" down the throats of other people.

Dangerous?

Yep. And that is an understatement.

ONE word: Taliban

[KamaAina]

17. It's the powers behind him who are dangerous

How do you think a goober like that became governor of Ark. in the first place? It was because Jim Guy Tucker got ensnared in the Whitewater web woven by the serious Clinton-haters, funded by Mellon $$$caife et al. If you don't believe that Schmuckabee owes them big time, I have a bridge in Minneapolis I'd like to show you... it is a bit of a fixer-upper...

[mitchum]

32. Absolutely

"If you don't believe that Schmuckabee owes them big time..."
I certainly believe their front man Smilin' Mike owes them big time

[AndyTiedye]

33. Which Is Why He Pardoned That Rapist

The victim was a distant Clinton relative, so they were all over him to let the rapist go.
He did.
The rapist then went on to kill someone.

[babylonsister]

19. I think he is, too, but many rethugs are running from him. Here's

a sample:

http://www.smirkingchimp.com/thread/11582

The GOP white-glove crowd on Huckabee: "O Lord, NO!"
by Weldon Berger


National Review editor Rich Lowry is joining what threatens to become a parade of GOP flacks and hacks who wish all GOP voters were like Mike Huckabee—bone ignorant, Pavlovian Christians who can swallow the wildest swerves of logic with nary a hint of nausea—but are more than a bit panicked to find Huckabee threatening for the GOP presidential nomination and turning the primaries into a contest over who's God bone is biggest. Here's Lowry.

Huckabee has declared that he doesn’t believe in evolution. Even if there are many people in America who agree with him, his position would play into the image of Republicans as the anti-science party. This would tend to push away independents and upper-income Republicans. In short, Huckabee would take a strength of the GOP and, through overplaying it, make it a weakness.

In other words, pander but don't empower. Get Huckabee aboard the bus but for God's sake don't let him drive.

Lowry, because he retains a modicum of self-consciousness, doesn't directly abhor the role of religion in the Republican meltdown. Peggy Noonan, because she doesn't, does. Lowry does delicately skirt the question of how the GOP acquired its "anti-science party" image, which is of course by way of ridiculing any science that respectively conflicts with popular religious beliefs, interferes with corporate prerogatives, or doesn't involve blowing things up.

He also takes care to throw in some policy-related objections, observing that Huckabee, unlike his fellow candidates who wholeheartedly support the greatest national security debacle since the War of 1812, "not only has zero national-security credentials, he basically has no foreign-policy advisers either, as a New York Times Magazine piece this Sunday makes clear." (How is it, by the way, that every pundit and reporter in the land read that story a week before publication?)

This is in contrast to, for instance, Rudy Giuliani, who boasts Norman "Nuke Iran" Podhoretz as his go-to guy on national security.

Huckabee's record on taxes is another policy sore spot. The Bible-struck populist raised taxes in Arkansas for the shady purpose of helping poor people, and Lowry fears that his repentant gimmick—"a sales-tax scheme that allows him to say he supports eliminating the IRS, but is so wildly implausible that it would be a liability in a general election"—isn't sufficient to overcome the fears of those same upper-income Republicans who detest Huckabee's insistent religiosity, in this instance because they recognize, as Lowry says, that "the public tends to support Democratic proposals for bigger government, which Republicans counter by saying that the proposals will require higher taxes."

But Republicans like Lowry have demonstrated time and again that they can stomach any policy perversion so long as it doesn't cost elections, and Huckabee's tax scheme is really no weirder than most Republican attempts to dodge reality on the subject. The real problem is that Huckabee represents an entire class of people whom Lowry is happy to goad to the polls every four years in support of whoever his chosen candidate might be, with whatever rhetorical gymnastics that requires, but with whom he otherwise wants nothing to do.

Tough break, Rich.

[Catshrink]

20. Immoderate posted this in his journal about Huckabee:

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/IMModerate


They'll pick Huckabee, and that presents difficulties.
Posted by IMModerate in General Discussion
Sat Sep 15th 2007, 01:24 PM
Not an endorsement!{/b]

Huckabee is moving up in Iowa and New Hampshire, and he comes the closest to resembling the Republican's actual preferred candidate, "none of the above." He's eclipsed McCain in some polls and he has momentum. He is affable, ad libs well, and can claim creds for his health achievements, both personal and political.

The other Republican top tier are all in danger --

Rudy is corrupt and stupid. Fred is lazy and stupid. Mitt is ... well, vacuous. McCain, unfortunately, has that recently discovered thing in your brain that blocks reason and turns you into a Republican. I think he'd be cool otherwise. Anyway, he is past his time. Question is moot!. The rest of them are let's resort to shorthand) stupid. OK, Huckabee is stupid but he has cover. He is an ordained minister! He could be a presifent with Billy Graham built in! He's gets benefits of the doubt, and other leeway!

As a governor, he has no record on the war, though he has supported it, he has flexibility. (Remember Nixon's secret plans?) And he's not Washington and he can probably deliver Arkansas, even against Hillary. He's her toughest matchup I think. I could find few negatives of the kind that would swing a race.

So the point is that while he sucks, he sucks in a way that conservatives like, and some independents can tolerate. He has low negatives. He'll be their pick.

--IMM


(Hope you don't mind me posting it IMM!) :hi:

[Democrats_win]

23. Bushwacked. Now it's Huckabee: F*ck-U-n-me: we of the middle class. nt.