Mexican Air Force Catchs Drug Plane, Forces it Down - Wonder Who it Belonged To?

[autorank]

Crash Landing Report
http://tinyurl.com/2n8lvo

Nature: Illegal Flight
Departure airport: ?
Destination airport: Cancún Airport (CUN/MMUN), Mexico
Narrative:
The Gulfstram bizjet was circling the Mexican town of Tixkokob. When being chased by Mexican military helicopters, the crew carried out a crash-landing. No bodies were found in the wreckage, but soldiers found 132 bags containing about 3.6 tons (3.3 metric tons) of cocaine.

KOS Post-EXCELLENT

Daily Kos: CIA Torture Jet wrecks with 4 Tons of COCAINE
http://tinyurl.com/34urol
CIA Torture Jet wrecks with 4 Tons of COCAINE
by redstatehatemonitor
Wed Dec 12, 2007 at 04:21:00 PM PST

This Florida based Gulfstream II jet aircraft # N987SA crash landed on September 24, 2007 after it ran out of fuel over Mexico's Yucatan Peninsula it had a cargo of several tons of Cocaine on board now documents have turned up on both sides of the Atlantic that link this Cocaine Smuggling Gulfstream II jet aircraft # N987SA that crashed in Mexico to the CIA who used it on at least 3 rendition flights from Europe and the USA to Guantanamo's infamous torture chambers between 2003 to 2005.

Donna Blue Inc - Owner
http://donnablueaircraft.com/

Mad Cow Morning News ID's owners - EXCELLENT
http://tinyurl.com/244ytp

“The proprietary company of the unit, Donna Blue Inc. Aircraft (DBA), is another mystery and probably it is a ghost company,” reported Mexico City’s La Reforma.

Indications point to the conclusion that their skepticism is justified.

Increasing suspicion even more was the suggestion, in a report of a committee of the European Parliament, that in addition to having been used in drug trafficking the Gulfstream II had flown CIA rendition flights to Guantanamo.

Narco News
http://www.narconews.com/en.html

CIA Plane.
The Venezuelan National Guard Story Redux

Listen (mp3 - 20mb)

A Gulfstream II jet that crash landed in Mexico’s Yucatan Peninsula in late September bearing a load of nearly four tons of cocaine. This particular Gulfstream II (tail number N987SA), was used between 2003 and 2005 by the CIA for at least three trips between the U.S. east coast and Guantanamo Bay — home to the infamous “terrorist” prison camp — according to a number of press reports.

Tonight, we talk with Bill Conroy from Narco News, and Sandalio Gonzalez, veteran DEA agent, about this amazing story.

[rsmith6621]

1. Here is the Registration for the Plane

N-number : N987SA
Aircraft Serial Number : 172
Aircraft Manufacturer : GRUMMAN AMERICAN AVN. CORP.
Model : G-1159
Engine Manufacturer : ROLLS-ROYC
Model : SPEY MK 511SR
Aircraft Year : 1975
Owner Name : DONNA BLUE AIRCRAFT INC
Owner Address : 4811 LYONS TECHNOLOGY PKWY STE 8
COCONUT CREEK, FL, 33073-4346
Type of Owner : Corporation
Registration Date : 31-Aug-2007
Airworthiness Certificate Type : Standard
Approved Operations : Transport

[Cronus Protagonist]

2. First Iran/Contra and CIA drug smuggling and now this

Is there any doubt left that the CIA is a drug smuggling organized crime cabal?

:hide:

[dantyrant]

14. Check this out:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=gw32C6ulBRE

http://youtube.com/watch?v=3tMDI9dd368

[barbtries]

23. not in my mind;

i hope this news gets out to change others' minds

[Ganja Ninja]

28. Probably not all the CIA.

Just the right wing black ops part of it. The same people that killed JFK among other assassinations. The same people that mailed out the anthrax. The people that are behind every dastardly act this country has visited upon the planet in the last 60 years. They need to be exposed, given a short trial and a firing squad.

[DrDebug]

3. DU thread from Sep-28-07

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1927518

Summary: It was a CIA flight (duh?) and the real owners of the plane are:

[autorank]

8. What an honor. The Doctor!

Have you seen this http://tinyurl.com/2o8jvp Very nice stuff.

I'm a bit behind on this topic but that's OK. Panasonic did pretty good being behind;)

Thanks for that link and nice sig line...I'm seeing double.

:hi:

[DrDebug]

11. Thanks for your link

That is another very much ignored subject. So Kerry won 53% of the vote.

This subject is reasonably simple. Just like the last time there were some changes of ownership to non-existing people like Donna Blue AFTER the coke plane crashed, however the original ownership seems to revolve around William Achenbaum, Donald Stein and William Cripe (Air Rutter, the rental company which is also a flight school).

Those rentals for the CIA were pretty profitable, because Achenbaum and Stein could invest heavily in hotels and real estate the last couple of years and their main investment is Hotel Gansevoort in New York, a new uptown hotel who got into a little bit of problems with their neighbours over excessive partying, an outrageously large billboard, etc.

The ownership clique is not Company but more likely Syndicate, because there are quite a number of links to Russian and Silician mobsters. So it is basically the Octopus strategy with the Company using the infrastructure of the Syndicate for plausible deniability.

[Ghost in the Machine]

12. You did some great work on that thread, DrDebug...

:hi:

[Kurovski]

4. K&R.

I remember this story from a while back. Or did I imagine that I saw it on DU?

I'm sure they'll be discussing it on "The View" any day now. Or maybe Ellen will pick it up, maybe call George live from her show and ask him about it.

[Ghost in the Machine]

10. Here's a link to one big thread about the cocaine plane

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=1927518

[Kurovski]

13. Thanks.

:thumbsup:

[Old and In the Way]

5. Wonder why this isn't really big news in our MSM?

And why didn't they report on the DC-9 in 2006 that was captured with 5.5 tons of coke? A DC-9 dressed up in official US (DHS ?) colors and emblems. Hmmmm, that "War on Drugs" is sure making some peiople very wealthy here. http://www.madcowprod.com/06222006.html

I wonder if that isn't the real grease that skids the organized crime syndicate, otherwise known as the RNC and our fraudulent electoral system?

[DrDebug]

6. Wonder why Google censored the original DU thread

and suddenly made it disappear from searches. Madcow was removed as well from N987SA searches.

Anyway this thread is now indexed at position 27. Let's see how long it takes for the Company to remove it.

[sicksicksick_N_tired]

31. Interesting.

:freak:

[bananas]

7. An mp3 of Mike Levine's radio show can be downloaded until Monday

http://www.expertwitnessradio.org/

CIA Plane.
The Venezuelan National Guard Story Redux

Listen (mp3 - 20mb)

A Gulfstream II jet that crash landed in Mexico’s Yucatan Peninsula in late September bearing a load of nearly four tons of cocaine. This particular Gulfstream II (tail number N987SA), was used between 2003 and 2005 by the CIA for at least three trips between the U.S. east coast and Guantanamo Bay — home to the infamous “terrorist” prison camp — according to a number of press reports.

Tonight, we talk with Bill Conroy from Narco News, and Sandalio Gonzalez, veteran DEA agent, about this amazing story.

[autorank]

9. Excellent - that's in the links but should be up front.

I followed Narco News closely on the Mexican election since I was very interested in that heroic struggle. They're really on target. They get it right and fight for their stories if attacked.

What the heck is going on?

[tavalon]

15. How do you fine folks gather this stuff and colate it into such a coherent thing?

I've never been to a place where people can take the most obscure, difficult to put together things and put them together in a way that is very understandable. Reason number 5,283 that I love DU so much.

[earth mom]

35. Exactly why I stick around DU myself. Connect the dots people.

Connect the dots.

[MagickMuffin]

16. Check out Donna Blue's flight history

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N987SA/history

18-Sep-2007 G159/L Fort Lauderdale Executive (KFXE) Cancun Int'l (MMUN) 07:22PM EDT result unknown (?) n/a

16-Sep-2007 GLF2/Q Clearwater Intl (KPIE) Fort Lauderdale Executive (KFXE) 01:45PM EDT 02:27PM EDT 0:42

30-Aug-2007 G2/Q Wichita Mid-Continent (KICT) Clearwater Intl (KPIE) 01:12PM CDT 04:29PM EDT 2:17

30-Aug-2007 G2/Q Salt Lake City Intl (KSLC) Wichita Mid-Continent (KICT) 09:06AM MDT 11:40AM CDT 1:34

29-Aug-2007 GLF2/Q Boeing Field Intl (KBFI) Salt Lake City Intl (KSLC) 07:24PM PDT 09:57PM MDT 1:33

29-Aug-2007 GLF2/Q Daugherty Field (KLGB) Boeing Field Intl (KBFI) 04:34PM PDT 06:35PM PDT 2:01

26-Aug-2007 GLF2/Q Boeing Field Intl (KBFI) Daugherty Field (KLGB) 05:11PM PDT 07:20PM PDT 2:09

26-Aug-2007 GLF2/Q Colorado Sprgs Muni (KCOS) Boeing Field Intl (KBFI) 02:37PM MDT 04:01PM PDT 2:24

24-Aug-2007 GLF2/Q Daugherty Field (KLGB) Colorado Sprgs Muni (KCOS) 02:39PM PDT 05:22PM MDT 1:43

23-Aug-2007 GLF2/Q Van Nuys (KVNY) Daugherty Field (KLGB) 12:36PM PDT 12:51PM PDT 0:15


They sure were busy during the month of August.

For $580 you can get the rest of the history of their flights dating back to 2005. I don't even have the money to buy my DU Star, and wish I had the money for the history of this aircraft. Oh well, life can be cruel.

Dan Hopsicker is a great journalist that has been tracking all the wacky crap coming out of Florida. He's one of the best.

:hi:

[DrDebug]

17. Softlabhennef was kind enough to provide the entire list

The entire flight plan of N987SA. (Owned by Stein & Achenbaum and not Donna Blue which was a red herring in order to obscure the real owners. Notice that plane still has an SA suffix when it crashed)

http://www.softlabhennef.mynetcologne.de/CIA-Flights/N987SA.zip

[MagickMuffin]

19. But isn't that the case with the CIA and their drug running cargo planes.

Always throw in a red herring or two and presto instant CYA.

Your link took me to a blank browser window.

[DrDebug]

20. Standard operating procedure

The official last owner tends to be something which doesn't exist.

The link still works, however you have to Save target as. It's a zip file with an excel spreadsheet.

In case it doesn't work: http://rapidshare.de/files/38038172/N987SA.zip.html

[MagickMuffin]

21. Thanks, Dr.

I just got through viewing the spreadsheet.

Seems to be a few flights down to Gitmo. Interesting info.

How did you connect Stein & Achenbaum as the owners of the plane?

[DrDebug]

22. Because Donna Blue didn't seem legit

and most importantly the suffix was still SA and not DB. For some weird reason the last plane was N900SA with SA standing for Skyway Aircraft, so I was interested in finding out whether this was Skyway as well.

The previous owners were Stein & Achenbaum Holding LLC which traced to Hotel Gansevoort. The rental agency during the CIA rendition flights (because this plane was one of the CIA rendition candidates as well) was Air Rutter which was owned by William Cripe. For some odd reason the names of Donald Stein, William Achenbaum and William Cripe reappeared as owners of Hotel Gansevoort which makes one wonder whether it was the same group which merely assigned a different role for each partner. Also it was curious how a small real estate agency before 2000 suddenly could affort to build a 13-story 5-star hotel with immediately attracted entertainment assets like Paris Hilton and Britney Spears as their favorite spot to throw all night parties. It wasn't partially financed using those $5,300/hour plane rentals for the CIA, was it? Also the amount of links to known mafia figures was a major indication that S/A Holdings were the real partners providing planes for the CIA.

Por Esto! even states - sadly I couldn't find any confirmation - that the registration to Donna Blue was temporary and just for the drugs flights and that the plane had already made the trip USA-Venezuela-Colombia-Mexico-USA three times before it finally crashed after being chased by the Mexican army. (Reply #200 on the original thread)

[MagickMuffin]

24. I remember N900SA from Dan Hopsicker

I guess I didn't know that the tail number is connected to the owners of the planes. You have connected the dots, so it seems. Interesting that it just never gets any MSM attention. But I suppose we aren't suppose to know about our government's involvement (still) in the illegal drug trade. This has been going on forever.

[DrDebug]

25. It seems like it will go on forever as long as the media keeps covering up

The main reason is that the corruption keeps on spreading its tentacles when they effectively get away with this continous drug dealing.

In this case the CIA is sheltered by Stein & Achenbaum who in turn are sheltered by the FAA, DOJ and the MSM (and Google!) who purposely ignore and provide disinformation. As long as this scum which makes fortunes covering for the Cocaine Import Agency, it will continue forever.

The only follow up of this drug bust has been that Mexico will be getting billions for a new "Drug Enforcement" program. It is very likely that that was just a billion dollar bribe because the Mexican army has been acting independently twice in row now and stopped CIA drug imports. It is not very likely that the same uncorrupted army officers are allowed to pull such a stunt again...

[DrDebug]

37. Two little erratas

I'm sorry, I shouldn't have written this post from my mind.

Air Rutter was the rental agency after the CIA rendition. The rental agency during the rendition was Richmore who was catering to both the CIA and Al-Qaeda (Both the War on Drugs and War on Terror are rackets from top to bottom)

William Cripe is the manager of Air Rutter. The owner is Arik Kislin who is a principal of the hotel.

The temporary registration story has a second source:

LA VOZ DE AZTLAN
Los Angeles, Alta California
October 3, 2007

(...)

William Achenbaum says that he sold the plane in August to a Florida company called Donna Blue Aircraft run by Brazilians Joao Luiz Malago and Eduardo Dias Guimaraes. The two Brazilians in turn say that they sold the jet plane on September 16 to Clyde O’Connor and Greg Smith of Fort Lauderdale, Florida. The Federal Aviation Administration however is saying that it was never informed of the sales and that they never issued any certificates. (Update: The FAA has now posted a temporary registration certificate to Donna Blue Aircraft dated 08/31/2007 that was to expire on 09/30/2007 but still no certificate for Clyde O’Connor or Greg Smith )

http://www.aztlan.net/cia_russian_mafia.htm

This story also mentions the reason for the confusion. It seems that the FAA found the registration AFTER the plane had crashed and AFTER the so-called temporary had already expired. (Things which make you go hmmm...)

[Diamond Dave]

18. CIA, BFEE, .... oh who gives a shit anymore? Guilty, as charged.

I do love Narco News, Al G and all the rest that just keep on keeping on trying to shine the light on the roaches.

Someday, just maybe someday.................. Thank god for Al G, TrapRock and everyone else that puts their lives on the line for truth.

We have little time left to be the "shining" light on the hill.

[windoe]

26. Truth has to be told

or it will go down the Memory Hole (good website BTW) in the interests of the Revisionists.

[Greyskye]

27. kick for transparency

Great research here! :toast:

:kick:

[formercia]

29. Common denominators=CIA,rendition, torture and drugs

=Felix Rodriguez, the right man for the job.

http://books.google.com/books?id=0KufJkIplgsC&pg=PA177&lpg=PA177&dq=felix+rodriguez+che+barbie&source=web&ots=e7_injsDP5&sig=xNnQs6Mo2w1X14FBPqN16zN15gQ#PPR1,M1

[Kurovski]

30. Kick. (nt)

[sicksicksick_N_tired]

32. Mind-boggling!!! Nearly four freakin tons!!!

Why do these people continue to get away with this shit?

I mean, I realize they have a pretty tight network in place,...but, fuck!!!

[autorank]

33. That's a lot of dope.

I wonder how many people it would cover. Can't imagine.

[sicksicksick_N_tired]

34. Lot's and LOTS of taxpayer-funded ILLEGAL money being made,...

,..with a wink and a smile. Enough to buy politicians and hotels and stocks in the oil and defense companies and shit like that.

Let us call it the NEO-MAFIA.

incredible

[DrDebug]

38. Because the corruption goes all the way to the top

Who has the courage to investigate N900SA and Skyways Aircraft, because it is pretty obvious that that plane will lead you to the top of the CIA, a squatter in the White House, the Saudi royal family and the Kuwaiti National Guard. At least three corrupt regimes have left their paw prints on that little airplane and front company.

[The Backlash Cometh]

36. I'm just wondering how much more we have to be sold out to make up

for that plane?