We're in the trenches together, yes or no?

[blondeatlast]

Poll question: We're in the trenches together, yes or no?

You may not like the way I talk or pray or look or smell--but the real enemy is out there (in the general direction of Washington DC).

[blondeatlast]

1. Pushing the poll, so to speak...

:kick:

[Hydra]

2. We are all in the trenches

but we aren't getting along down here. We can't agree on who the real enemy is, or how to deal with him/her/it.

[Chulanowa]

3. Of course

Part of the trouble is over doubts over how much of an enemy you would consider that enemy to be. I'll be frank with you, as far as I can tell, it's the "liberal Christians" who have the least to lose out of the bunch of us should the fundie chowderheads get their way. And they would likely even make gains. I have to wonder to myself - how many of these folks would really be adverse to being the privileged elite of a society? How many would really be bothered by the suppression of all us pesky non-Christians?

On an intellectual level, sure, I can accept that you're not out to get me. On an intellectual level I can also accept that not all cops are corrupt abusers of power - But I still suspect I'm going to get the shit beat out of me for my skin tone every time i walk by one of those skinheads with a badge. It's sort of the hope vs. experience situation.

[blondeatlast]

8. Well, there are followers and there are followers. Here's why I don't proselytize

either for Christ or against the Radical Religious Right.

My faith doesn't make me do anything. It's just there--part of me, like my preference for desert climes and bicycle riding vs. driving. I'm not the type who thinks one needs spirituality to have a moral compass--I just find strength and wisdom and peace in it.

I don't want to "use" it for anything--and that's why I have some serious issues with those on both sides over this.

[KittyWampus]

10. yeah, us liberal religious folk are secretly happy at the opportunity to have Dominionists take over

BTW, you do realize that the Rightwing Christianity is a well-funded POLITICAL movement having nothing to do with religion except using the outward trappings to mislead people?

[Chulanowa]

15. I don't think you're secretly happy, and I said nothing of the sort.

I did, however, wonder how many would mind all that much.

I'm very familiar with right-wing Christianity. I lived it for years. You sell its nature quite short. it's a melding of religion and politics. It proclaims Jesus as a Republican through and through. But these people don't snicker behind their hands and joke with each other about "the truth"... they honestly, truly feel that their beliefs are actual Christianity. It absolutely is religion, and a political movement, at the same time. The religion isn't a facade, it's woven into the entire thing.

[GreenPartyVoter]

13. Fundies think liberal Xians are heretics. We're more likely to be jailed than put on a pedestal if

they truly turn us into a theocracy.

[shadowknows69]

4. Solidarity!!!

Power to the people. Good poll blonde.

[Breeze54]

5. Disagree. Some of us are but many don't participate on what really matters.

They just want to bitch and moan about social issues that you can't change by berating others.

The posts about really important issues get ignored here; while the fluff, ponce and circumstance

gets full billing. Almost like TMZ and American Idiots! Get with the program people! :P

"I may have to edit this!" lol

Case in point: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=2445708&mesg_id=2445708

Not begging for anything but this should've had 100,000 R's and replies by now!

Why isn't it as important as say.... "Romney's Views and BS speech on religion"?

Maybe that's a bad example but who gives a rats ass about him?

I believe his speech got more attention than it deserved.

[Selatius]

6. I disagree. There are many different interests fighting for different causes.

Defeating Republicans may or may not be the common goal within the Democratic Party, but beyond that, it's difficult to find any agreement because of such a wide political spectrum present within the party. This is a consequence of Republicans driving out more moderate elements into the Democratic Party.

The Democratic Party should not be treated as a traditional party in any sense. It's really more like a coalition of smaller political parties within it. If we transitioned into a multi-party parliamentary system tomorrow, the Democratic Party would splinter within a few election cycles into its constituent parties.

[lonestarnot]

7. You would think that everyone here wants to end the war, stop the torture in our name, stop the

looting of our treasury, and upholding our Constitution, but trolls come here and hide, so no, everyone is not united here.

[Selatius]

9. Take the war, for instance. "What do you mean by 'end the war'?"

Some Democrats want the troops out now. Others say we should pull out some troops and keep the rest in as military advisers like how we've kept troops in Germany and Japan for the last 60 years.

[lonestarnot]

12. If we remain there will be no peace in the M.E. We remain only to steal oil that does not belong to

us. OUT NOW!

[AspenRose]

11. I appreciate your post and your intent

but as of late it certainly doesn't FEEL like we are all in this together.

[GreenPartyVoter]

14. Me neither.

:cry: