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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 01:19 PM
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CIA vs. Bush/Cheney--- From Lame Duck to Dead Duck
Tuesday, 04 December 2007
By former Congressman John LeBoutillier

The startling revelation that all 24 intelligence agencies in our government agree that Iran stopped their nuclear weapons development in 2003 is a shot across the bow of G.W. Bush and Dick Cheney.

Seriously furious over how Bush and Cheney misused ambiguous intelligence data back in 2002 and 2003 to justify a pre-emptive invasion of Iraq, the CIA and the rest of our vast Intelligence Community made certain this week by taking the unprecedented step of releasing for full public viewing the latest National Intelligence Estimate (NIE) so that the American people, the media, the Congress and especially the 2008 presidential candidates know the truth - without a White House filter.

In other words, our Intel Community wanted it known that Iran does not have a nuclear weapons development program.

(snip)

We have never - ever seen anything quite like this in our history. Here we have an Executive Branch Agency - the CIA - and 23 other departments/agencies - all of whom report to the President of the United States. And they are basically saying to him, “We no longer trust you to tell the American people the truth. You distorted and misused intelligence on Iraq and we are not going to allow you to do it again.”

WOW!

This has huge ramifications.

1) Bush is not just a ‘lame duck’ politically; he is now a Dead Duck.

2) The Super-Hawks calling for surgical strikes against Iran in the next year have been de-fanged;

3) Hillary is hurt even more in the Democratic race for wanting to go after Iran;

4) The GOP candidates - except Ron Paul - look like Bush Toadies for all salivating at the chance to go after Iran in an Election Year;

5) Bush/Cheney may trot out another excuse to hit Iran: that Iranian agents are infiltrating Iraq and hitting and hurting US troops. This is probably true and was predicted in this space 5 years ago. Retaliation may be justified, but not hitting Iran nuke sites;

6) In sum, this takes Iran off the table as a major 2008 issue, shatters the remaining credibility of the Republican establishment, crushes the neo-cons, who have caused us so much trouble, and puts this Administration on ice.

We effectively have a care-taker government until January 20, 2009.


more at link... http://www.borderfirereport.net/john-leboutillier/cia-vs.-bush-cheney.html


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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 01:24 PM
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1. The bolded paragraph needs to be further scrutinized.
I want to know how this was released, and by whom. Then I want to personally thank them for their perseverance in the face of this deadly cabal.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 01:34 PM
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3. I have several questions.
If dickie was able to keep a lid on it for almost a year, how did he lose that grip?

Who is responsible for the timing of release? Does it come to us through the WH or the CIA or another agency?

I think if it was released by the CIA/Intell agencies, then they had a sense of urgency. They may have believed an attack was imminent.

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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 01:48 PM
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5. Yes, exactly. The makings of a revolt are definitely in this story.
I posted yesterday wondering how close we have come to attacking Iran and also how timely this was in defusing such an event.
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 04:45 PM
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21. I think it is ok if we don't know. The neocons are certainly hunting them down.
ala deep throat, remember?
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ProgressiveFool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 01:32 PM
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2. this was my first reaction as well, but this Nation piece argues otherwise
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2406480

Essentially, Iran will stick around as an issue in 2008 because Repubs NEED a national security threat with which to scare up their base.
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TBUSA Donating Member (76 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 01:45 PM
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4. Some other excuse to hit Iran
cHaney's attempts to attack Iran have failed, SO FAR. W has no idea what is going on.
cHaney has tried false flag attacks in Iraq, Navel incidents in the Gulf and of course the media lies. Maybe even the highjacking of Nuclear weapons in that Minot Air base fiasco. He has failed at every attempt to involve us in another neocon mandated war.
The chopping off of cHaneys legs by the intelligence agencies may result in the retirement of this traitor. W will be left to absorb the blows. He will not understand enough to be concerned about his ridicule.
Two conclusions: The military takes their orders from the VP's office. The intelligence agencies may be ending a bad policy(or reorganizing the players?).
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 02:04 PM
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8. I see that.
Dickie's power has peaked, he has been steadily losing support. His fun time in the government may be coming to a close. Why should he stay around any longer, now that the jig is up? He would do better hitting that revolving door back into business, and benefit from the policies he enacted.

All that is left for him as veep is Impeachment.

Chimpy has already suffered from the departure of his handlers. Without the puppet-master he would flop further.
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catmandu57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 01:53 PM
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6. I don't think it's even a caretaker government
I think that if we pushed hard * might even take his ball and go home sometime next year.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 02:05 PM
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9. Let's start pushin' !!!
Impeach tha' bastads!
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 02:15 PM
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11. So do I. Let's stop shooting across the bow. Aim lower.
They're so naked now, all that's left is skinning.

As I type this I'm beginning to think that a delayed impeachment might have been what Ms. Pelosi wanted all along. No time for it to backfire on the Dems. I don't know. Just a hunch.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 02:19 PM
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12. I had a similar thought today.
Think of next year. The entire election year with nightly updates of the fall of the repuke empire.

Maybe this is what Hastert Lott and the others saw coming.
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balantz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 01:59 PM
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7. I pray we're not suprised by an "attack" in the gulf or something.
Just what the hell is Mr. faulty-ticker doing on his "hunting trip"? Putting together one last ditch effort?
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 02:06 PM
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10. I wonder....
Who is hunting with him this week, in the 10 SUV entourage?
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Joe Fields Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 02:35 PM
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18. I hear he invited the guy who leaked the NIE.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 02:36 PM
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19. dickie: "I'll show you a dead duck"
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catmandu57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 02:28 PM
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15. He's going to be in Kansas City Friday
to fund raise and then give a speech at the WWI museum so they can bill us for the trip. I wonder what the idiot will give his speech on now? I may have to watch just to find out if he's still clinging tightly to the lie.
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balantz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 02:19 PM
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13. The scary thought is the cornered rat syndrome.
If they become exposed and face impeachment or something, they can stage something horrible. They can then declare martial-law and put all of their newly fabricated powers to use. I don't see them backing out of the world scene very nicely. This cabal has been planned for generations.
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2hip Donating Member (350 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 02:33 PM
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16. My sentiments, exactly!
The NIE is just Act I of "Smokescreen Theatre”

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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 02:20 PM
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14. kick
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balantz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 02:33 PM
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17. Just what is the real story about that nuke incident
here in the states a few months back? http://www.thiscantbehappening.net/?q=node/69
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bonito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 03:15 PM
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20. K&R!
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