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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 12:17 PM
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Is Walter Kaye - Insurance Magnate - on the Currently-Secret Clinton Donor Lists?
Do you read the MoJo 400 list each year? You know, the deepest political pockets, operating underneath the radar (or at least trying to)?

If so, you may remember a guy by the name of Walter Kaye.

The smart money says that Kaye's is just one of the names that the Clinton campaign would now rather weren't on the currently-secret list of backdoor donors.

If you still can't quite place where you've heard Walter Kaye's name before ...

- Dave
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 12:21 PM
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1. Walter Kaye is the guy who recommended Lewinsky work at WH, isn't he?
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 12:23 PM
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2. An Embarrassment of Riches...
... could be the title of the currently-secret donor list.

And yes, your memory serves you correctly.

- Dave
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 01:10 PM
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26. I wonder if
there is a connection to Linda Tripp as well?
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 02:37 PM
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28. Somehow I Doubt She Gave a 7-Figure or 8-Figure Donation (n/t)
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 03:01 PM
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29. No, I mean
Edited on Sun Dec-02-07 03:12 PM by Uncle Joe
between Tripp and Kaye or some other insurance magnate that hooked her up with Lewinsky.

Edit for P.S. Sort of like a sting operation, to then use carrots or sticks. I believe Hillary Clinton was correct about one thing, there was a vast right wing conspiracy, but I believe it was primarily a back door strategy aimed at Al Gore, and I have come to the conclusion that at some point the Clintons joined this endeavor.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 12:40 PM
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3. if you know all the names on the list already, why is it a secret list? nt
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 12:47 PM
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4. The Spectrum from Officially Impounded/Redacted to Public Knowledge...
... contains a line past which it would no longer be fair to say "currently-secret," I think.

- Dave
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 01:08 PM
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5. no longer be fair to say "currently-secret," - my thought also, n/t
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 01:13 PM
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6. Did the Clinton Campaign Release the Lists?
Please let us know if you've found that link.

- Dave
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 01:19 PM
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7. People that donate are reported to the FEC by 15th after qtr end - what the heck is "secret" n/t
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 01:30 PM
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8. You're Right...FEC-Tracked Contributions from Kaye, W Are Public
Edited on Sat Dec-01-07 01:30 PM by CorpGovActivist
http://www.fec.gov/finance/disclosure/norindsea.shtml

The donations referenced in the OP aren't.

- Dave
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Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 01:48 PM
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9. Well Walter Kaye Wouldn't Want ANYTHING IN RETURN for Donating to Hillary, Would He?? Hmmm....
I guess we can see where Hillary's 'negotiating with the insurance companies on behalf of the American People' will be going.

It's always easier to negotiate a reasonable settlement with insurance companies IF YOU HAVE TAKEN THEIR MONEY IN ADVANCE.

A BIG DIFFERENCE between Hillary's and John Edwards' approaches to dealing with the insurance companies. I just don't see Hillary 'giving them HELL' when she took their money. Edwards did not take their money, and he would fight them tooth and nail.
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 01:51 PM
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10. You're Wrong, Blackhatjack
"...and he would fight them tooth and nail."

I take exception to that.

He ***DID*** fight them: tooth, nail, AND CLAW.

If there's one thing (of many) on which Sir Winston and I agree, it's that there should not be "terminological inexactitude" on such important matters.

; )

- Dave
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Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 01:58 PM
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11. Of course, you are correct.... bested again by Holmes-like superior intellectual analysis.
Edwards has always fought them tooth and nail--- AND WON!
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 02:02 PM
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13. Mycroft Holmes Is an Interesting Figure
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mycroft_Holmes

Cryptography, history, and all that.

; )

Apropos of nothing, I run a little thing called The Diogenes Club; call it an homage.

- Dave
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 05:15 PM
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23. The MoJo 400 List...
... reads like a who's who, and cross-references quite nicely with some other lists.

- Dave
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LeftCoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 02:01 PM
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12. Seems to me if you have no evidence for this then it's just smearing your opponent
Reading through your post I see nothing that even vaguely connects Mr. Kaye to the Clinton donor list. Did I overlook something?
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 02:17 PM
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14. "Did I overlook something?"
Yes, you did.

The missing names on the donor list.

- Dave
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Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 03:11 PM
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19. Here is a direct connection between Hillary and Kaye's donations... LINK
http://archives.cnn.com/2000/ALLPOLITICS/stories/09/21/hillary.funds/index.html

"Other big donors include New York insurance man Walter Kaye and his wife Selma, who gave $125,000 -- and apparently forgiven for helping get an internship for Monica Lewinsky."
***************

When Hillary ran against NY Rep Rick Lazio for the Senate in 2000, Walter Kaye and his wife gave DIRECTLY to Hillary's Campaign, as evidenced by the linked story above.

It would not be a great leap to surmise that Walter Kaye has contributed to Hillary's campaign since then.

But here is a direct link between Kaye's contribution and Hillary.
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 03:24 PM
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20. The On-Again, Off-Again Relationship with Walter Kaye...
... has spanned the years for which Form 990s were filed - 1998 thru 2006.

- Dave
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Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 03:35 PM
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21. You have to ask "Why? Why would an insurance company rep give $$ to Hillary?" It's Obvious...
Hillary tried healthcare reform in Bill's first term, and was beaten back by insurance companies.

Since that time Hillary has been a favor donor target of the same insurance companies that beat her in her first failed attempt to reform their industry. Why?

It is a short hop, skip and jump to the conclusion that $$$ can change your opponents' views to match your own.

Has Hillary addressed this? WHy NOT?
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 03:38 PM
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22. Do They Have a Prepared, Canned Response...
... when the donor lists are leaked?

That may well be the superior question to ask.

My guess is that Mark Penn was too busy pantomiming fake polls to focus on this "strategy"...

- Dave
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 02:22 PM
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15. WTF? You have been posting this cloak n' dagger shit all over DU.
If you have something, then provide it to your candidate of choice... or better yet, why not go over to republicans, where they'd be happy to destroy a democratic candidate. You're obsessed with this. No one is going to give you an award for investigative journalism... you're just starting to look positively creepy and obsessed. Do you own a bus with signs about this plastered all over it? Cuz you're starting to seem like that type.
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 02:23 PM
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16. Ball 1
Keep going down the threadbare Mark Penn playbook to try to find the right change-up pitch, though.

- Dave
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Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 02:45 PM
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17. Hillary's Achilles Heel Is Her Donors List ... And She Has Refused To Address It Publicly ...
... except to say that Lobbyists are people too.

As the General Election gets under way, if she is the Dem Nominee, she will find herself in the uncomfortable position of defending who has contributed to her. And more corporate money is going to Dems this cycle than Repubs --which gives the Repubs an opening they will definitely exploit.
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 02:46 PM
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18. See My Signature Line Quote...
... words to live by, and some aren't content to let the information fester under the radar until after Iowa.

- Dave
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 10:53 AM
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24. Cross-Reference Mark Penn's Client List...
... with the donor lists, once they're public.

- Dave
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 12:40 PM
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25. That will be very interesting to see.......n/t
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 01:39 PM
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27. As a Student of Campaigns...
... I'll be most interested to see how long it takes for Mark Penn to finally concede that his position is untenable, in light of the facts.

- Dave
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 03:47 PM
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30. So many powerful people
have an interest in the Clintons Part II...I wouldn't be too sure it would go the way some might think, though.
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 03:59 PM
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31. "I wouldn't be too sure it would go the way some might think, though"
What do you mean?

- Dave
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 04:06 PM
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32. That the Donations would prove a problem to her...
given the MSM...
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