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seafan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-30-07 10:46 PM Original message |
Venezuelan Government Uncovers Video of Opposition Destabilization Plan |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-30-07 11:00 PM Response to Original message |
1. Just spotted your post. Kicking this to the top. People need to see it. n/t |
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Orwellian_Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-30-07 11:03 PM Response to Original message |
2. Oops |
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David__77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-30-07 11:05 PM Response to Original message |
3. I'm so glad that Chavez is up to the challenge. |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-30-07 11:22 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. And Chavez being no |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-30-07 11:23 PM Response to Reply #3 |
8. Omg. "How to catch the Right Wing with Their Pants Down". |
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Gold Metal Flake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-30-07 11:13 PM Response to Original message |
4. Blaah blah dictator blah blah corrupt blah blah asshole etc... |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 03:11 PM Response to Reply #4 |
83. Doesn't say CIA. Says opposition leaders. What do you know of them? Where do they come from? |
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1932 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-30-07 11:18 PM Response to Original message |
5. White riot. I wanna riot. White riot. A riot of my own. |
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Gabi Hayes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-30-07 11:27 PM Response to Reply #5 |
10. that's not crazy at all..... |
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Demeter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 11:45 PM Response to Reply #5 |
55. Excellent Summary! |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-30-07 11:19 PM Response to Original message |
6. Andale. Kick! |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-30-07 11:24 PM Response to Original message |
9. I Don't Speak Spanish |
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Gold Metal Flake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-30-07 11:42 PM Response to Original message |
11. Keep it kicked. |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-30-07 11:51 PM Response to Original message |
12. Gee, it almost sounds like they expect to lose the referendum. |
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davidinalameda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-30-07 11:55 PM Response to Original message |
13. simply amazing |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 10:31 AM Response to Reply #13 |
29. One problem with that theory is the Chavez government has no |
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davidinalameda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 09:16 PM Response to Reply #29 |
51. the Chavez government does have a history |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 11:54 AM Response to Reply #51 |
64. I have to wonder if that's true. The opposition students got |
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Demeter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 11:46 PM Response to Reply #13 |
56. There Is Protest, and There Is Destruction |
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spag68 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-30-07 11:58 PM Response to Original message |
14. Chavez |
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seafan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 12:37 AM Response to Original message |
15. Reforming Venezuela's Constitution (Speech by Ambassador of Venezuela to US, Nov 19) |
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Peace Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 05:19 AM Response to Reply #15 |
16. Ambassador Alvarez makes a point that I have made time and again, |
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seafan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 06:58 AM Response to Reply #16 |
18. This is the way I see it as well. The Venezuelan people are driving this. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 10:22 AM Response to Reply #18 |
25. The Ambassador will be a guest on WJ on Sunday morning. nt |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 10:37 AM Response to Reply #25 |
30. Thanks for the alert. I recall the clip you shared with DU'ers from LinkTV in which he appeared. |
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seafan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 02:53 PM Response to Reply #25 |
42. Thank you for the heads up, sfexpat2000. Will try to catch it. n/t |
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seafan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 09:39 AM Response to Reply #25 |
57. Sunday, 9:40 am: Ambassador on now, Washington Journal, CSPAN 1 |
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reprehensor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 06:55 AM Response to Original message |
17. Well, it's pretty easy to see "conspiracies" against you everywhere when... |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 07:18 AM Response to Reply #17 |
19. Great links. So good to read ex-CIA agent, Philip Agee's comments. |
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seafan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 08:59 AM Response to Reply #17 |
20. Thanks for adding those great links to this discussion. The Agee interview is a must read. |
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druidity33 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 09:16 AM Response to Reply #17 |
21. excellent links... nt |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 09:42 AM Response to Reply #17 |
23. USAID. n/t |
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BornagainDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 05:38 PM Response to Reply #17 |
45. AGEE! |
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Richard Steele (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 09:38 AM Response to Original message |
22. K&R |
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Joanne98 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 10:15 AM Response to Original message |
24. Here's a link to the video, in Spanish! I hope he's broadcasting it on public tv |
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mike098762001 (32 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 10:23 AM Response to Reply #24 |
26. Is “Operacion Tenazas” disinformation from the Venezuelan government? « Mercury Rising |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 10:31 AM Response to Reply #24 |
28. Not that it's totally illuminating, here's a babelfish version of the article from the site |
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Dorian Gray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 10:25 AM Response to Original message |
27. Are they calling for protests |
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1932 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 10:42 AM Response to Reply #27 |
31. They're telling people to get cans of gasoline and old tires and they want to cause |
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Dorian Gray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 11:35 AM Response to Reply #31 |
35. It didn't state that in the blip that I read in the OP |
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1932 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 11:38 AM Response to Reply #35 |
37. post 24 |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 10:49 AM Response to Original message |
32. For those DU'ers who wondered about CNN's connection to any of this, |
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seafan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 01:56 PM Response to Reply #32 |
40. Meanwhile, the Miami Herald is beating the drums... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 10:25 AM Response to Reply #40 |
59. Ocando must be CIA because he works the propadanda beat. |
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seafan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 11:30 AM Response to Reply #59 |
62. We are under a blanket of anti-Chavez propaganda now. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 11:39 AM Response to Reply #62 |
63. Baduel's name came up in that memo. Also, our State Department |
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seafan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 12:00 PM Response to Reply #63 |
66. See post 65 on this thread. Yes, it IS a lie. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 12:32 PM Response to Reply #66 |
72. How did the Ambassador do this morning? |
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seafan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 12:48 PM Response to Reply #72 |
73. Very well spoken, patient with ignorant calls. Appealing for respect for Venezuelan people. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 12:53 PM Response to Reply #73 |
74. The last time I saw him was on a Link program where |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 12:14 PM Response to Reply #40 |
68. "Firehosed" is EXACTLY the perfect word to describe what they've done to us. |
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shance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 10:59 PM Response to Reply #32 |
53. Yikes. As they say, a picture says a thousand words. |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 11:28 AM Response to Reply #53 |
61. Creepy, isn't it? In 2002, right after the coup attempt failed, Gustavo Cisneros and the elder Bush |
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seafan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 12:26 PM Response to Reply #32 |
70. Chavez: "People at CNN, listen carefully: This is just a warning." (Do not interfere with process) |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 10:54 AM Response to Original message |
33. Apparently the same opposition newspapers are calling for violence, again. |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 11:17 AM Response to Original message |
34. Did you know one of the opposition groups was created in Washington? I didn't, until a moment ago. |
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mogster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 11:36 AM Response to Original message |
36. In a medium biased against Chavez, at least the picture are positive: |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 11:41 AM Response to Reply #36 |
38. mogster: that's how I busted the AP in the first place. |
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mogster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 11:51 AM Response to Reply #38 |
39. Yeah |
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Peace Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 02:16 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. I am horrified to hear this about Norway! I visited there in the '70s and was |
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mogster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 07:15 PM Response to Reply #41 |
46. Hi Peace Patriot |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 03:47 PM Response to Reply #39 |
43. I don't think it is exactly for the conservative side. |
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mogster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 07:19 PM Response to Reply #43 |
47. Yep, that's a point |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 12:31 PM Response to Reply #36 |
71. Thanks for opening the eyes of some of us who were not aware this has been happening in Norway. |
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BornagainDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 05:33 PM Response to Original message |
44. The counter-revolution will be televised. hee, hee |
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marmar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 07:22 PM Response to Original message |
48. I'm sure multinational corporate interests and some Western governments, like the U.S.,.... |
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bluesmail (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 08:18 PM Response to Original message |
49. k & r |
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countryjake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 09:07 PM Response to Original message |
50. Kicking & Recommending! |
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seafan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 09:45 PM Response to Original message |
52. Saturday: Pro-Constitutional Reform Closes Campaign with Massive Rally in Venezuela |
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Demeter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 11:43 PM Response to Original message |
54. Lordy, Lordy! Can You Imagine The US Having Such a Policy? |
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Dave From Canada (932 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 09:56 AM Response to Original message |
58. The website you linked to is just a pro-Chavez mouthpiece. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 10:31 AM Response to Reply #58 |
60. Ven Analisis is more accurate than the New York Times, who |
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Dave From Canada (932 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 03:07 PM Response to Reply #60 |
80. It's a Chavez mouthpiece. They would never criticize Dear Leader. Especially when he has the power |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 03:08 PM Response to Reply #80 |
81. As usual, no substance just invective. Check. n/t |
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seafan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 11:55 AM Response to Original message |
65. Chavez will still be subject to the people's direction via recall referendums and re-elections. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 12:10 PM Response to Reply #65 |
67. Our own State Department is proving that the memo is not a fake. |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 12:19 PM Response to Reply #67 |
69. Well I guess a copy is to much to ask.. |
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rAVES (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 02:20 PM Response to Original message |
75. DLC users here will automatically side with the "poor" Rich Venezuelans... |
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Dave From Canada (932 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 03:06 PM Response to Reply #75 |
77. Nobody hear is in any way supporting Bush. When will Hugobots realize that opposing Chavez |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 03:07 PM Response to Reply #77 |
78. The word is "here". n/t |
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rAVES (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 03:19 PM Response to Reply #77 |
84. yea yea.. ok nobody said it.. we agree on that. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 03:10 PM Response to Reply #75 |
82. There's also a huge issue of "race". |
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seafan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 02:24 PM Response to Original message |
76. RadioVenezuela: Peaceful voting, less than 1 hour left before polls close. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 03:07 PM Response to Reply #76 |
79. Thank you, seafan! |
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seafan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 03:25 PM Response to Reply #79 |
85. Y're welcome,sfexpat2000! What a day. n/t |
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