Breaking on CNN: Hostage situation at Hillary Clinton campaign headquarters in New Hampshire!

[originalpckelly]

This sounds pretty fucking weird.

Internet link:
http://www.thebostonchannel.com/news/14737866/detail.html

It appears a man walked into the headquarters with a bomb, made the threat. Still breaking.

God, let's hope this is a random nut and that he's not a Republican. We're fucked if he is.

UPDATE 1: Not known how many people are being held. Police have responded, a school and businesses in the vicinity of this situation have been evacuated. Still breaking.

UPDATE 2: A female eyewitness reports seeing a man walk into the office, opening his coat to reveal a bomb strapped to his chest with ductape, per Faux News. It's them so take it with a grain of salt.

UPDATE 3: Number of people being held not precisely known, but some individuals appear to have been released, per police officer on local channel.

UPDATE 4: Irony, man wants a "conversation" with Clinton. Clinton will not be appearing at the DNC fall meeting, as announced by Howard Dean just a few minutes ago.

UPDATE 5: Man is in his 40s with "salt and pepper hair". Statistically it's getting closer to him being a Republican. Eeek!

UPDATE 6: Headquarters of Obama and Edwards close to the Clinton headquarters have been evacuated as well!

[flvegan]

1. Online link

http://www.thebostonchannel.com/news/14737866/detail.html

[H2O Man]

2. It's on MSNBC, also.

This type of thing is disturbing.

[Solly Mack]

3. saying bomb threat on CNNi..Clinton HQ

[H2O Man]

4. Yep.

That's what MSNBC is saying, too. They say it is unclear if it is just a bomb threat, or a combination bomb threat with a hostage situation.

We do not need this type of shit in our country.

[Solly Mack]

6. We sure don't. :(

Saying it's a man with a bomb strapped to him. Walked in - made the claim..and that there might still be people inside

[H2O Man]

10. I really hope

this type of insanity does not start up in this country.

[originalpckelly]

13. We have been living in a cold civil war...

this is scary because it might be heating up.

[H2O Man]

16. You are right.

There is the very real potential for the divisions in this country to spin out of control.

[Solly Mack]

21. Agree..to both your and originalpckelly's comment

[tridim]

62. Fair warning Republics.. If it heats up at the DNC in Denver I'm going to fight back.

I have a feeling others will too.

[sicksicksick_N_tired]

80. I'm with you on that. However, wager of violence is considered terrorism, these days.

I'll be very interested in discovering the identity of this individual making a bomb threat in a political hq.

[Solly Mack]

18. I was hoping against it

I admit to fearing it though

[MNDemNY]

40. And this is in NH???? Scary.

[originalpckelly]

44. I know, it's pretty fucked.

That's what makes me think this is politically motivated.

[H2O Man]

49. Police on the line

on MSNBC.

[originalpckelly]

56. I have MSNBC on in the other room...

what did the cops say? Anything new?

[H2O Man]

60. Just that

a lot of back-up is arriving.

It sounds serious.

[MNDemNY]

50. What else, a robbery of fliers?

[H2O Man]

5. A man claiming

to have a bomb strapped to him went into Clinton HQ.

[AtomicKitten]

7. America is officially off its trolly.

This radical behavior is reminiscent of the 60s.

:scared:

[H2O Man]

11. Right.

I was just thinking about '68.

[lovuian]

8. This election is going to be a scary one isn't it

poor Campaign workers
theres alot of anger out there

Praying for them

[MNDemNY]

46. "In the interest of national security, I must suspend the 2008 presidential elections"

G.W.Bush October 3, 2008

[Solly Mack]

9. Please recommend and keep kicked

TIA

[kestrel91316]

12. The RW has to know they are NOT going to make any friends by pulling

this sort of crap. And YES I do believe the RW is behind this bald-faced attempt at intimidation.

HRC is not my first choice for nominee, but you'll REALLY get my dander up pulling this with ANY of the Dem candidates, and especially her because she is a fellow woman. I fear for her life if she gets the nomination. The level of viscious hatred against her is truly amazing.

[CPschem]

17. exactly

it will be scary if she earns the nomination.

[Cosmocat]

68. It will be an absolute bloodbath ...

if she is the dem nominee, and I mean it ... The Rs have some kind highly engrained hatred of her that seperates them from what little rationale mind they have to begin with ...

Again, two weeks ago, an audience member at a McCain function said, "so, how do we beat the bitch" ... Just flat out said it like that, McCain did not stop her and, as a presidential candidate make a statement that such talk about any candidate is not acceptable ... That was a stunning moment, and that the MSM just mentioned it and did not call out McCain full out to correct it, that McCain as a supposed man of integrity did not instinctively call it out, was VERY indicative of just how acceptable it is to dehumanize Hillary ...

[aquart]

110. Thank you for your concern.

[AuntPatsy]

48. They could care less about making friends with anyone who does not believe as they do..

I think they have more than proved that in the past through present day.

[aquart]

113. But what courage not to cower in fear of it.

Unlike the advocates of cowardice on DU.

[Neecy]

14. it's probably Chris Matthews.....

[TwilightGardener]

27. LOL!

[TechBear_Seattle]

15. Who wants to bet the guy responsible is a registered Republicker and "devout Christian"?

I have $10 saying both are true. I have another $100 saying he will never be charged with domestic terrorism because, as we all know, NOTHING a registered Republicker and devout Christian does meets the definition of "terrorism," no matter how violent or insane.

[WolverineDG]

67. That's a sucker bet

but I'm with you on this one.

dg

[spoony]

79. Pre-emptive hate-mongering

Why wait for the facts when you can smear people you hate now?

[Mutley]

101. You're right

It's very tempting to jump to the conclusion that this guy is a deranged Republican, but I hope people realize that behavior is just as bad as those who jump to the conclusion that this guy was planted by Clinton.

Wait for the facts.

[intheflow]

89. A very good bet, indeed. n/t

[aquart]

116. No bets he's a "progressive" who hates a "corporatist"?

Because nobody here is that venomous, and nobody out there is spreading those lies like butter?

[rucky]

19. Is this what they mean by "homegrown terrorism"? n/t

[mmonk]

54. It is in my book.

[npincus]

20. why are we fucked if it is?

I'd think that's very bad PR for them, if so.

[H2O Man]

26. It injects

a large dose of fear into the national consciousness. It inspires other jackasses to act out. It tends to destabilize our society when we need to move towards stability.

[originalpckelly]

28. Copycatters, and how would you feel about them if this was a Republican?

Blood politics. It has the ability to spin into a full blown war quickly. The possibility this is a Republican is absolutely terrifying.

[H2O Man]

30. Confirmed hostage situation

per MSNBC.

Damn it to hell.

[TwilightGardener]

He must have a gun then. You can't stop people from fleeing with

a bomb strapped to your body.

[H2O Man]

37. Maybe.

There are probably a lot of people who would not chance it.

[originalpckelly]

39. Maybe it's a gun and a bomb?

Oi vey.

[MadBadger]

22. I wouldnt be shocked if its a man claiming to be an OBama supporter, hired by CNN

[TwilightGardener]

23. If you wanted to kill people with a bomb, you wouldn't announce

you had one strapped to you, so that people would run away. First rule in the "Suicide Bomber's Handbook", I'll bet. This guy sounds like he either wants suicide by cop or is making some sort of extreme political statement.

[H2O Man]

34. I agree.

He's a freak, looking for a freak show.

[rocktivity]

45. Al Franken did a bit about the "World's Unluckiest Suicide Bomber"

He was assigned to denontate in a theater, but he didn't because the movie he attended was Gigli and no one else showed up. He then attended a movie that had gotten great reviews. This time the theater was crowded, but he got so engrossed in the movie that he forgot the real reason why he was there!

:rofl:
rocknation

[TwilightGardener]

51. Must...not...laugh...serious situation...

:spank:

[originalpckelly]

59. Oh so vewy evil!

:rofl:

[mmonk]

95. Yep

Not the MO of a suicide bomber as they don't inform people of what they are doing.

[YoungDUer]

24. This will help Clinton's campaign

That's a sick way at looking at something like this, but that's exactly what's going through the head of every politico in the beltway: Now she can play the victim card.

And it's fucking sick that that's how things in this country are thought of, even permeating political followers like us.

[MadBadger]

25. Oh this will help her immensely.

[Cosmocat]

81. No, it won't ...

the MSM will wash it, ASSUMING it is a prank ...

Have it happening on a Friday makes it easy for them to not even really put it into a "newscycle" ... It will be near faded from their cycle by Tuesday ... What this will do is even further push the envelop in dehumanizing Hillary ... Two weeks ago, a lady says "so how do we beat the bitch" and it goes unchecked ...

NOW, if this guy has a real bomb, or someone actually gets hurt, that is different ...

Either way, it will get MUCH less play than if one of those lunatic liberals did the same to Ghouliani ... Oh, yes, it would then be spun into how tough he is ...

This ... Just another laugh line during the general when the "hillary is devisive" meme is pushed ...

[IDemo]

29. How soon before Faux calls him a "patriot"?

[H2O Man]

35. As a rule,

I avoid jokes when these things are on-going. But you made me laugh.

[MiniMe]

74. Anybody seen Hannity lately?

[MadBadger]

31. Hostage situation confirmed on MSNBC

[havocmom]

32. And trains collide

Must be the Holiday Season.

[lame54]

33. Has Bush pardoned him yet?

[rucky]

53. LOL

[MNDemNY]

85. No, but he has commuted his sentence.

[alfredo]

111. Yeah, if commuted he is under no obligation to testify.

[Joe Fields]

137. If he's Blackwater, he won't need pardoned.

[IDemo]

36. This calls for further shredding of the Constitution

Or so we'll be told within the week.

[TwilightGardener]

38. LOL! Shouldn't laugh on this thread, but you people keep cracking me up!

[originalpckelly]

41. What worries me is that this is Clinton, not Obama or Edwards.

This whole Bush/Clinton/Bush/Clinton thing gives me the creeps if you catch my drift.

[IDemo]

61. Oh I understand,

And I was only halfway trying to be funny. We will probably 'learn' that the perp was an avid internet user, followed by the creation of a Homeland Insecurity "no surf" list.

[SIMPLYB1980]

42. Holly Shit!!!

Is this how it begins?

[originalpckelly]

47. You and I are thinking the same thing.

This does at least seem to be very fucking odd, if not worse.

[H2O Man]

57. Timing .....

Some of the questions during the republican debate showed their party to be unstable fringe characters. Then they blame the Clinton campaign for the gay military officer asking a good question. I think it is very possible that we'll find the person was motivated by the passions from the debate. Just a guess, of course.

[originalpckelly]

64. Guy has a bomb strapped to his chest with ductape.

He walked in, per an eyewitness. Holy shit, this is a suicide bomber.

[H2O Man]

66. Bad.

Just fucking bad.

Clint V.Z. on MSNBC is one of the best people to listen to on this situation.

[RevolutionStartsNow]

72. Well, not really

If he were he would've detonated already.

This may be more of a Hilary-hating wacko looking for attention and a long standoff.

Ugh. Hope it is resolved without deaths.

[tridim]

75. I've never met a Republican who wasn't a "Hillary-hating wacko"

Have you?

[intheflow]

97. Here's at least one:

Host Indicted, Clinton Fund-Raiser Canceled (Hillary pal “Dickie” Scruggs is Lott's Brother-in-Law)

[formercia]

100. A Red Green wannabe?

Call PBS and complain.

[TwilightGardener]

122. Red Green rocks.

[WolverineDG]

125. Red Green is Canadian

South Park was right: BLAME CANADA

dg

[MidwestTransplant]

43. There seems to be one less Freeper posting over there today. Wonder if it's him?

[originalpckelly]

52. Well, remember that guy who anthraxed Keith Olbermann/etc.

It really could be.

[H2O Man]

63. Exactly.

Moths.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

55. Will Bush respond by invading Bhutan to fight terror?

Or, just settle for bombing Andorra?

[MNDemNY]

71. Clearly Fiji is involved. So much for the "coalition".

[johnfunk]

99. No -- Liechtenstein is a more likely invasion target

[MNDemNY]

102. There are NO targets in Liechtenstein. On to Sweden!

[johnfunk]

107. How about Finland? That way Bush can swill their vodka over there...

... so he doen't have to munch on pretzels over here.

[Name removed]

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[xultar]

65. Well it was longer than I thought but I knew someone would post stupid shit like this.

[MNDemNY]

69. Oh, there will be more.

[zippy890]

70. honestly. just look how stupid that sounds

[MNDemNY]

73. LOL

[ORDagnabbit]

78. yep it sounds stupid...bout as stupid as our government planning to create fake terrorism in the US

from cuba in the 60's


big lies are easy to create..


I betcha

a. nothing will happen
b. there is no bomb
c. the person has a history of mental illness
d. clinton will move up in the polls

[sufrommich]

140. There's one in every crowd...

:puke:

[Name removed]

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[H2O Man]

76. When younger DUers ask

what 1968 was like, this is a reminder for us older folks. Tensions brought unstable people out of the woodwork. Violence became more of a means of "expression."

[nashville_brook]

84. wow -- you hit the nail on the head.

we used to say the 80s are going to make the 60s look like the 50s. what the hell were we smoking?

[Bright Eyes]

77. Does anybody know how many people are being held?

[H2O Man]

83. I think two.

It sounds like others were allowed to leave.

[originalpckelly]

86. No, though it doesn't appear to be the main NH headquarters.

Really a storefront location, so the number of people there is probably lower.

[Blue Diadem]

92. I've heard two workers and one woman with a child

They just said the woman and child have been released.

[kennylove]

82. Breaking on CNN: Hostage situation at Hillary Clinton campaign headquarters in New Hampshire!

>...let's hope this is a random nut and that he's not a Republican.
> We're fucked if he is.

Ah, my good fellow, but you're fucked anyway. For, you cannot possibly subscribe to the notion that Republicans have even a microscopic size of a chance in the upcoming 2008 election. To believe so, Sir, is sheer folly. Sheer folly, I tell you!

[MadBadger]

87. Odd first post.

[Neecy]

90. indeed

[originalpckelly]

91. I have a feeling it was made from a Clinton campaign headquarters in NH.

[H2O Man]

93. his twin n/t

[Catherine Vincent]

94. Any DUers in the area?

Is it an Obama supporter? :hide:

[Beetwasher]

96. WILL HE CORRECTLY BE LABELLED A TERRORIST?

I wonder.

[originalpckelly]

98. I have a feeling he's a white Republican...

so he's a patriotist, not a terrorist.

[sicksicksick_N_tired]

108. One could certainly infer intent,...

,...clearly!

This could end up being the first prosecution under current law.

[kennylove]

103. Addendum

>...let's hope this is a random nut and that he's not a Republican.

I should have included this in my previous post, but OldTimer's kicked in. However, even though I flunked 8th-grade Algebra, contrastly, I excelled in Deductive Reasoning 101. As such, when I implement DR 101 in this particular situation, thereby, deducing that:

* Independents don't have the inclination to affect this feat
* Democrats certainly would not sabotage the opportunity for dual "first evers" (1. first female president, 2. first instance of a married couple occupying the presidency)

Deductive reasoning leaves me with only one party that, historically, likes to, is capable of, and has no shame in its game in regard to doing the political "boogie woogie" on the political dance floor, i.e., chads.

While I cannot recall the name that we are left with of that party, I believe its initials are (R)epublican (P)arty.

[sicksicksick_N_tired]

129. Well, I was actually imagining the possibility of a domestic issue.

The domestic abuse in this country spreads into all sorts of environments.

However, since MSNBC is reporting that the terrorist is demanding to speak to Clinton, I believe your reasoning may be applicable.

[sicksicksick_N_tired]

133. btw Welcome to DU!!!

Your 1st post just seemed a bit cryptic. However, I understood what you were communicating.

Welcome to DU! :hi:

[MadBadger]

104. MSNBC just reported, the man demands to speak with Senator Clinton.

[H2O Man]

112. Right.

He sounds like a disturbed individual who believes he has some connection, or a right to a connection, with her. It is hard to say how organized he is. I do not mean as part of any "organization," but rather what type of thought disturbance he suffers from.

[Beetwasher]

114. Yeah

He's acting out a fantasy. There will be a manifesto of sorts I'm sure.

[H2O Man]

118. Right.

One wonders if he entered the building planning to leave dead or alive.

[Beetwasher]

120. Someone Upthread Reminded Of The Following Recent Remark: "How Do We Beat

the Bitch."

*sigh*

[dave29]

124. the fact that he let people out is a good sign.

Hopefully they can appeal to his remaining senses

[Beetwasher]

128. That Depends Actually

It may in fact be a bad sign. He may not want to kill the kid and he knows he IS going to set off the bomb. So he let the woman and kid go because he doesn't plan to leave there alive and didn't want to take them out too.

The individual is unbalanced. He may be taking his time so he can get exposure, get his message out, then blow himself up, probably fantasizing he will be a martyr of some sort for doing so.

[H2O Man]

132. Right.

It is good to the extent he is not preparing to die.

[johnfunk]

105. This terrorist wants a "conversation" with Clinton?

Hillary should say that unlike Bush or Rudy, she will NOT talk to terrorists.

[mmonk]

109. Actually, she may want to for the sake of those volunteering.

What this person says will tell us what we need to know as to motivation.

[H2O Man]

115. Interesting point.

I think they will not give him a yes or no on that, but will encourage him to discuss what he feels he needs to say to her.

[MNDemNY]

138. At this point, I don't think the police would allow HRC to talk to him.

[Postman]

106. How can Hillary "protect" the country if she can't protect her own headquarters!!!

I can hear it now.

[Beetwasher]

117. Man In His 40's W/ Salt and Pepper Hair

Obama and Edwards have evacuated their local offices. Hillary cancelled appearances.

[MadBadger]

119. Slightly funny Moment

MSNBC went to an affiliate for coverage. As soon as they did, that affiliate said they had some information that they got from CNN. NEedless to say, they went back to their own coverage a mere five seconds later.

[originalpckelly]

121. Ha!

Even the worst of times still have humor with them.

[johnfunk]

136. Bwahahahaha! "Quick! Cut back to Peppermint Gomez!"

For those of you unfamiliar with cable newsmodel Peppermint Gomez, see this.

[Solly Mack]

123. Can we get a thread 2? (Pretty please)

[H2O Man]

130. Good idea.

I will participate as soon as you start it.

[Solly Mack]

135. LOL I keep having to step away from the computer...so I wouldn't be a good thread host :)

[Catherine Vincent]

126. America's first suicide bomb attempt.

I hope it's a dud. :-(

[mmonk]

134. Though it doesn't fit the MO as they usually don't announce their presence

or intention. Very bizarre.

[malaise]

127. This is serious

Damn!

[Fleshdancer]

131. Please let the volunteers and workers be ok

May it be some weird wack job with a fake bomb and may this mess be resolved asap. This is freaking insane. Could you imagine having a loved one in that building right now?

:(

[Gold Metal Flake]

139. Thread #2 is open

Here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2377953