Some last wild speculation about the Paul/Kucinch flirtation

[Truth2Tell]

which is now officially dead - in case you haven't got the memo.

Just thinkin' out loud here..

Could it be that Dennis floated this Paul idea with no actual intention of working w/Ron Paul whatsoever?

Could it be that Dennis knew that a great many Ron Paul supporters are young ill-informed anti-war and anti-imperialist Interneters?

Could it be that Dennis wanted to draw out a discussion of his views versus Paul's views on issues facing America?

Could it be that Dennis suspected that a sizable chunk of Paul supporters could be peeled off for himself upon closer examination of the libertarian kook factor?

Could it be that Dennis felt the potential backlash from inbred inside-baseball Democratic activists was worth the trade-off for the extra exposure on the edges of the blogosphere and the alternative media?

Could there be more of a method to Dennis' brilliance than many on DU even grasp?

Could I be completely wrong? Possible, wouldn't be the first time. But who knows....

:shrug:

[bluetrain]

1. I'd like to think you're right, but I've yet to see a calculating bone in Kucinich's body. That

said, he still has my vote in the primary.

[Truth2Tell]

2. Yes, I think I'm wrong too

but sometimes ya just gotta toss it out there :)

[aquart]

3. Link to the official deadness?

[Truth2Tell]

4. Read this post

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2374562

And listen to the linked audio.

[Lasher]

13. It's not a dead issue to me.

He and his wife said it was a possibility. You can't un-ring a bell.

Even if Ron Paul never ends up as his running mate this episode shows that Kucinich might very well hand a great deal of power to this or another of the enemy. How about Ron Paul as the head of the Social Security Administration? Or ambassador to the UN? I'm not interested in helping elect a Democrat who would just turn around and empower the very ones I had worked to defeat.

I guess you could say it is a dead issue for me in one respect: I have turned the page on Kucinich.

[Lilith Velkor]

5. I think he was trying to rub up on RP's mojo

It blew up in his face.

It's too bad. I really like him (and Dodd and Gravel), and I have a grudging respect for Ron Paul because he defied his own party to cosponsor Koochy's House Resolution to rescind IWR.

But damn...this is so embarassing.

[HCE SuiGeneris]

6. Yes.

K & R

[dweller]

7. no, no, no, no, no,

yes, absolutely,
yes


my final answers.
dp

[stimbox]

8. Here's the clip

http://tinyurl.com/3cya9z

[lvx35]

9. I think he was feeling out the political landscape.

And thinking about a power play that could bring a lot of Republicans over to our side. It may have been a little too bold...but boldness is what Dennis does, that's how he plays and I still like him for it!!!

[AndyTiedye]

10. I Have Run Out of Candidates

Whatever that was, it does not inspire great confidence.

I was gonna vote for DK (if Al Gore doesn't get into the race).

Now I think I'm just gonna write in Gore.

draft gore


(yes, I'll vote for the Democratic nominee in the general election, yawn)

[cboy4]

11. If Al Gore doesn't get into the race?

LOL

[Anarcho-Socialist]

12. No

Kucinich made a severe error of judgement, and seriously considered Ron Paul as his running mate before Ron Paul shot it down. I hope Kucinich has learned why it was a bad idea to begin with.

[Kucinich4America]

14. When and where did Dennis ever suggest Paul as his running mate??

He mentioned a possibility of a cabinet position. Bill Clinton, who is considered the second coming (please no blue dress jokes) of Christ by some on this board, had at least one blatant Republican in his cabinet, and several DLC Dinos who might as well have been. And that Republican went on to LIE to the United Nations and helped drag us into a useless and illegal war which is literally killing this country. Not to mention Iraq. And yet Hillary has said she would have that warmongering liar on her team again.

Paul, for all his faults, at least opposes this PNAC treason. Where the Hell is the condemnation for the Clintons and their open association with war criminals? Let's be consistent here.

[Anarcho-Socialist]

21. Right here

http://blog.cleveland.com/openers/2007/11/kucinich.mp3

Yes, you're right that other candidates aren't perfect either, but this thread is about Kucinich. I feel that his considering of Ron Paul as his running mate to be a severe error of judgement, and hopefully one which he has learned from.

I don't feel that Ron Paul's anti-PNAC stance is enough to rehabilitate him, since he is political soul mate of a nasty cast of characters who are on fascist far-right.

[mmonk]

22. What about covering for the crimes of bush and Cheney?

Shouldn't that be considered a serious error of judgement? At least Dennis isn't responsible for any of damage or the danger we continue to face.

[Lasher]

24. Pee Wee Herman isn't responsible for the damage either.

Does that mean he should be our next president?

[Anarcho-Socialist]

25. Absolutely

But this thread topic is about Kucinich.

[tekisui]

18. I think he did.

There is no such thing as a Perfect Candidate. They are all human and will all make mistakes and will all disagree with you on something.

Some make honest mistakes, some make fishy mistakes, some make crooked mistakes.

I'll take Honesty.

Go, Dennis!

[MonkeyFunk]

15. Why does it matter?

Kucinich is polling at 2%. He's never going to get the chance to pick a running mate.

I honestly don't understand how this ever became an issue.

[Truth2Tell]

28. Thanks for contributing MF.

Did you know Hillary is BatBoy's mom? Scary.

[MilesColtrane]

16. A little of D), a little of E). n/t

[tekisui]

17. Dennis doesn't have to calculate. When you speak truth, you always win.

The *top tier* got there by meticulous calculating. I'm not sure they even know how to speak honestly.

You can never lose when your honest.


Good to have Kooch back!

Go, Dennis!

[mmonk]

19. It was a way to get his stands out there

that otherwise might not be as visible. Invisibility of certain candidates and key issues is a method of political machines and their undue influence on the process.

[NashVegas]

20. Could It Be Dennis Just Isn't Snow Freaking White?

Just askin' ...

[blondeatlast]

23. No, that's not possible,

and you must be a DLC plant of a Freeper troll for having the audacity to imply such a thing.
_____________________________________________________________________________________________

Thank you--I've been thinking that for years--and he was my primary candidate in '04.

[NashVegas]

26. That Or ...

a former Howard Dean supporter :)

[blondeatlast]

27. ...

:thumbsup:

[Truth2Tell]

29. Of course

Nobody is. But he's better than most of the creeps we get stuck with as politicians. That's all I ask.

[Liberal In Texas]

30. Whatever it was, he lost me. For me, back to supporting Edwards.

That is all.

We now return you to your regularly scheduled Dennis is God channel.

[robbedvoter]

31. No. They were asked questions - and answered carelessly.

[undeterred]

32. Exactly. Kucinich is still who he was a week ago.

[robbedvoter]

33. True. And I am relieved.

[OzarkDem]

34. IMHO, you're right

He's always been a very savvy campaigner.

He may also have seen it as an opportunity to stir up controversy among the GOP candidates.