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FourScore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 10:21 PM
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Congress' "anti-extremist" bill targets online thoughtcrime
(Excerpt from the Alabama Department of Homeland Security's
definition of antigovernment groups.)

Congress is about to approve the Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act of 2007. This is not necessarily a good thing for Internet users.

I say that because VRAHTPA establishes a new federal commission tasked with investigating Americans with "extremist belief systems" and those who may engage in "ideologically based violence." This effort is expected to cost $22 million.

Excerpt from the Alabama Department of Homeland Security's definition of antigovernment groups.
It's possible, of course, that nothing will come of VRAHTPA. Technically no new laws are being proposed except those creating the so-called National Commission on the Prevention of Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism.

But creating a homeland security commission staffed primarily by Washington types with security clearances, which will be run by Washington antiterror types, which meets mostly in secret, and which will present a classified report to the president about "extremist belief systems"--well, that has the potential to turn ugly.

Here's an actual example of censorial mission creep from Alabama's Department of Homeland Security, which believes domestic terrorists are those Americans who say the "U.S. government is infringing on their individual rights, and/or that the government's policies are criminal and immoral."

I guess that would make Al Gore a domestic terrorist, especially after his speech last year saying "the executive branch of our government has been caught eavesdropping on huge numbers of American citizens and has brazenly declared that it has the unilateral right to continue." Presidential candidate Ron Paul, of course, is even guiltier, as are those pesky ACLUers, EFFers, and libertarians.

You can get a feel for where this commission is heading in this excerpt from the legislation to create it, which has already cleared by the House of Representatives by a 404-6 vote and is now headed to the Senate:

The Internet has aided in facilitating violent radicalization, ideologically based violence, and the homegrown terrorism process in the United States by providing access to broad and constant streams of terrorist-related propaganda to United States citizens.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 10:55 PM
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1. The internet will be the canary.
When it's regulated for political discourse to control dissent, its a good idea to leave Germany before its too late.
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Dukkha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 10:58 PM
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2. I guess it needs to be said yet again
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 12:48 AM
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3. They wanna kill the canary

Radicalizing myself

by Underground Panther in the Sky, Unknown News Oct. 23, 2006

Why are these elitists scared of "disaffected" people radicalizing themselves?

Well, lets look at this. First, what does it mean to be "disaffected"?

One definition of disaffected is this:
(adj) disaffected, ill-affected, malcontent, rebellious (discontented as toward authority)

Another,is this:
A person who is alienated or estranged from those in authority or lacks loyalty to the government; a state of mind.

Basically it means a person who's "disaffected" cannot cope with being dominated by these authoritarian personalities, whether they're in the White House or in your house.

The elitists are having a paranoid temper-tantrum. They fear we will stop serving them, stop playing by their rules, stop doing everything we do as they want it done. They are terrified of losing.

So, what is the best way to keep people tame, non-threatening and obedient, enthralled to the empty sound of authority and fearing its stolen power?

One way is to forbid the people 'disaffected' expression and commiseration about their own disaffection towards the authoritarians oppressing them. Shut up the truth about abuse, bigotry, and war. Silence the will inside the people to be free of abuse. Forbid solidarity, limit human networks, shred the social safety net, and stop the spread of human empathy. Make people afraid to share, sever kin ties, interfere with friendships and social support...

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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 11:38 AM
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4. How about those Senators who said " Bill Clinton is not my president."
I'm sure with all the changes in civil liberties, they can go back and retroactively charge people under this. Let's get cracking DoJ.

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