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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 01:15 PM
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Good for the DNC! It's about thime we started letting the RW
When the Rev. Pat Robertson endorsed former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani for the presidency, he created a schism among evangelical Republicans one that may cost the GOP the White House next year.

Since Robertson, the founder of the influential 700 Club, stood with Giuliani at a joint press conference on Nov. 7, a major backlash has been under way in the evangelical community over the endorsement.


Its going to hurt him, Scheffler says. For years and years he talked about what issues are important. This makes a mockery of it all. It is a complete betrayal to our movement. Its a disgrace.


Michael Cromartie, director of the Evangelicals and Civic Life Program at the Ethics and Public Policy Center, says the Giuliani endorsement was past Mr. Robertson being the pragmatic politician. Cromartie tells Newsmax: He is not taken seriously. For the religious conservative movement, it has moved on. Mr. Robertson is important only as a curiosity to the mainstream media. I dont know anybody in the evangelical who is sitting around saying I am going to wait for what Pat does.

I appologoze for posting something from newsmax, but I do enjoy it when there's unrest amoung the RW nuts!When I first heard about Robertson supporting Rudy, I expected a fracture in the RW, and I'll be THRILLED if they try to propup a 3rd Party candidate they think THEY can support! I'm a bit surprised they haven't done so already!

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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 01:29 PM
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1. There has always been an uneasy alliance between the rich
and the religious. The rich threw the religious nuts a bone when Reagan put that antiabortion plank in the party platform and the nuts fell for it. However, it's 27 years on, and abortion is still legal, although far more restricted than it once was. All but the nuttiest of the nuts are realizing they've been had since the rich have gotten everything they ever wanted.

The only thing holding them into the party fold are those faith based dollars flowing into the coffers of evangelical ministers, who obligingly preach proper voting to their flocks.

There will eventually be a split between the rich and the religious. The only question is when it will occur and what form it will take. Either the religious will split off and form their own party or the rich will split off and form theirs and I give it even odds. I just don't think it will happen until long after the next election as each side blames the other for losing.

Of course, their losing still depends on whether or not our party wakes up and appeals to its own base instead of to those fictional GOP swing voters.
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TlalocW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 02:09 PM
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2. The difference between the two camps (Robertson and Dobson)
Is that Dobson has the courage of his convictions (horribly wrong though they are) while Pat may talk the talk, but when it comes to being able to brag about having access to the president like he undoubtedly does with Bush and hopes to if Rudy wins, anything biblical can go to the back of the bus.

If Rudy was the "right" religion - i.e. not Catholic - there might be less negative backlash against him amongst religious conservatives as many in that group are still anti-Catholic. Oh, but if Rudy were Southern Baptist, all he would have to do is proclaim the lord had forgiven him, and the majority of religious conservatives could move past all his infidelities.

I also think that this is what's going to sink Mittens. For years, southern Baptist/evangelical preachers from Dobson, Falwell, and Robertson on down to the preachers of one-room churches in the boondocks have preached that Mormonism is a cult, and it will be hard for an already dispirited religious electorate to go and vote for a Mormon even if their preachers do a 180 and tell them to.

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