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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 09:07 AM
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Military Progress Doesn't Make * or War More Popular
Military Progress Doesn't Make War More Popular

By Peter Baker
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, November 28, 2007; Page A10

The debate at home over the Iraq war has shifted significantly in the two months since Gen. David H. Petraeus testified to Congress and President Bush ordered the first troop withdrawals, with more Americans now concluding that the situation on the ground is improving.

A new poll released yesterday underscored the changing political environment, finding the public more positive about the military effort in Iraq than at any point in 14 months as a surge of optimism follows the rapid decline in violence. Yet Bush remains as unpopular as ever in the survey by the Pew Research Center for the People and the Press, and the public remains just as committed to bringing U.S. troops home.

The evolving public attitudes reflect, or perhaps explain, a turn in Washington as well. While Bush and Congress are still fighting over the war, the debate has moved to the back burner as Iran, spending, health care, the economy and other issues generate more political energy. The focus of the presidential campaign, especially on the Democratic side, has broadened as well. Even antiwar groups that once denied that security has gotten better have recalibrated their arguments to focus on the failed efforts to reach political conciliation among Iraqi factions or the risk of war with Iran.

The shift has strategists in both parties reevaluating their assumptions about how the final year of the Bush presidency and the election to succeed him will play out. If current trends continue, Iraq may still be a defining issue but perhaps not the only one, as it once seemed, according to partisan strategists and independent analysts, particularly if the economy heads south as some economists fear.

"What this reinforces is that Iraq is not as much of a pressure point as it was through much of the year -- which is not to say that it goes away as an issue," said Andrew Kohut, director of the Pew center. "If Iraq were to either go away or have a much lower profile in the coming election, it would certainly be good for the Republicans and could be a transforming factor. But it's real important to get 'could be' in that sentence."

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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 11:52 AM
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1. Why don't they do a despair, disempowerment and disenfranchisement poll?
How many Americans think that Bush/Cheney and this so-called Democratic Congress give a fuck what our opinions are?

What do Americans think when government leaders commit massive crimes--of spying, theft, murder and treason--with impunity?

What would Americans say, if asked, about our war profiteering corporate news monopolies and their dismissal of the slaughter of a million people to get their oil--and on-going oppression, murder and occupation--as "old news"?

How many Americans would be outraged if they were only informed that an entirely non-transparent vote counting system, owned and controlled by rightwing Bushite corporations, was fast-tracked across the country, with a $3.9 billion e-voting boondoggle passed by the Anthrax Congress in the same month as the Iraq War Resolution (October 2002)?

Polls often don't ask the right questions, but shape the questions to the illusions created by the war profiteering corporate news monopolies. And, clearly, it has been the strategy of our Democratic Party leaders to serve their war profiteer masters by promoting despair and disempowerment with their recent votes FOR the war, and directly engaging in our disenfranchisement by their support for Bushite-controlled 'TRADE SECRET,' PROPRIETARY vote counting.

Nobody asks about THAT. Nobody asks the right questions. Because they are all--politicians and corporate news monopolies alike--spinners of war, spinners of fascism, and spinners of the illusion of democracy.
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