Malnourished twins found near dead woman

[proud2BlibKansan]

The Associated Press

Authorities responding to a report of a foul odor found malnourished 3-week-old twins under a bed in an apartment containing their mother's decomposing remains.

Both infants were taken to a hospital Friday, where one, a girl, later died. Her twin brother was in critical condition Saturday. Authorities said their 36-year-old mother, Virginia Wanjiru Njoroge, appeared to have been dead for several days.

An autopsy found no evidence that foul play contributed to her death, police said.

Emergency crews who found the woman noticed car seats and other baby items in the apartment, leading to a more thorough search.

When a paramedic bumped the bed the twins were underneath, one of the babies made a faint cry. The other twin was too weak.
http://www.kansascity.com/440/story/365283.html

Kenyan community works to send mother, daughter home for burial
By LAURA BAUER
The Kansas City Star

People who never met Virginia Wanjiru Njoroge want to make sure she and her three-week-old daughter are buried in Njoroge’s homeland of Kenya.

So leaders with the Organization of Kenyans in Kansas City plan to begin raising funds this week to ship their bodies there. But they say they first need to reach family members of the woman who was found dead in her Olathe apartment with her 3-week-old twins nearby.

“We need to see what they need us to do for them,” said Hophine Bwosinde, president of OKKC. “…Our main goal is to have the bodies home so the family can have that closure.”

Police said there’s no indication foul play was involved in Njoroge’s death. They believe she’d been dead for several days with her twin son and daughter alone in the apartment.

http://www.kansascity.com/news/breaking_news/story/366900.html

[GreenPartyVoter]

1. But why were the babies under the bed?

[LisaL]

3. I dunno. If there were no foul play, why were the babies under

the bed?

[proud2BlibKansan]

17. They don't know

What is so sad is the babies were too weak to cry and they almost didn't find them. :cry:

[A HERETIC I AM]

37. Perhaps they crawled under there out of instinct

Once they realized their mom was unresponsive, they sought shelter?

What a tragedy.

[NOLALady]

46. Can't crawl at 3 weeks.

Maybe there was foul play and she was trying to hide them.

[LisaL]

48. Please. Babies start crawling between ages of 6-10 months.

http://www.babycenter.com/0_developmental-milestones-crawling_6501.bc
These babies were 3 weeks. How exactly do you think they were able to crawl?

[A HERETIC I AM]

60. OK. I stand corrected. "Crawled" was the wrong word.

But infants, even at 3 weeks can still move. Granted it isnt a crawl. It just seems to me a plausible explanation for why they were under the bed is they got themselves under there. I just think it is a possibility.

And no, i have never had children so my experience with infants is admittedly limited.

[LisaL]

62. At 3 weeks, they can't crawl and they can't walk.

How exactly do you envision them moving?

[A HERETIC I AM]

66. Really? 3 week old babies cant walk?

Wow. I never knew that.

Sarcasm aside, if you leave a 3 week old lying in the middle of the floor, will it not move an inch? At all?

Again, i admit my ignorance. My response was based on an idea in my head that self preservation would be evident even in a 3 week old, thats all. If I'm wrong then I'm wrong and it is something else I've learned today.

[orleans]

79. i was wondering if they fell off the bed--or was everyone on the floor to begin with? n/t

[ElsewheresDaughter]

70. my baby did wiggly her way out of her infant seat and even scootch about at 2 weeks

my son also was a very active and squirmy 3 week old...they may have done the same...either fell off the bed and like baby animals seeking warmth in togetherness

just saying it could be the case

[A HERETIC I AM]

75. Thank you. That's pretty much what i was thinking.

Wiggly squirmy scootching. Sounds like self propulsion to me.

[LisaL]

78. I sincerely doubt it.

It seems to me that somebody placed these children under the bed. Police didn't even know there were children in that apartment until they really started to look for them. I just don't see how both children would wiggle their way under the bed.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

80. they were twins and i'm sure they knew each others sounds...i am the grandmother of twins and

i KNOW for a fact that this is the case with twins ...they spent 9 months getting to know each other in the womb even their sounds.

it is very possible and i believe very plausible that they would wiggle and seek each other out for comfort and warmth

[LisaL]

83. Well, I find it unlikely.

They were only 3 weeks. At this age they couldn't even crawl.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

87. do you have children?

[havocmom]

84. My daughter pulled herself from mid-crib to the end of it

regularly by 2 weeks. Slide on her head as she couldn't lift it reliably yet, but she got from point A to point B often enough.

Some are pretty strong.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

88. exactly...thank you

[A HERETIC I AM]

92. Wow! Now i don't feel so stupid!

Vindicated even.

Regardless, this is a horrible circumstance. It is my sincere wish the surviving child recover fully and have a long, happy, healthy life.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

93. indeed...very sad and my wish echos yours

[Midlodemocrat]

117. I can totally see Mom placing the babies on the floor so they

didn't roll off the bed because she herself needed to lie down due to not feeling very well.

Babies don't give you a signal when they are going to start scooching. I think these babies maneuvered themselves to be near each other for comfort when Mom died. Not that they necessarily knew she had passed, but that their needs weren't being met.

Tragic, tragic situation. May she rest in peace.

[shenmue]

2. This is so sad

:cry:

[Quantess]

4. Mysterious.

Sounds like foul play to me.

[fenriswolf]

5. well she obviously hid the babies as they cannot move on their

own and they did not say how the women died so I am guessing violence maybe?

[LisaL]

6. The article says no evidence of foul play was found.

So, according to the article you would be guessing wrong, apparently.

[Quantess]

7. The autopsy did not indicate foul play.

But it's still suspicious, yes?

[LisaL]

10. Yes, I would say it's strange.

If the woman died of natural causes (like heart attack, or stroke, etc) why were the babies under the bed?

[zalinda]

33. Depending on the babies strength, they can

roll over or move some. They had several days to get under the bed. She also could have been carrying them and dropped them and they slid under the bed.

zalinda

[LisaL]

44. Both of them rolled into the same direction, under the bed?

This doesn't make sense to me.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

82. yes it does twins spent 9 months together on the womb would very much seek each other out...i am

a mother and grandmother of twins....they do do this

[EFerrari]

73. That's what I thought. She tried to hide them from something or someone.

:shrug:

[OzarkDem]

8. Why move to a foreign country

if you can't take care of yourself or your children? Why have children if you can't take care of them?

Its so sad, but such an extreme case of someone who didn't take responsibility for themselves and the children they brought into the world.

[LisaL]

9. Since it's unclear as to why and how this woman died, I can't

understand as to how you've made your conclusions that she couldn't care for them, or didn't take responsibility for them. Obviously once she died, she couldn't take care of them, being dead and all, but why and how did she die?

[OzarkDem]

13. A single parent

with infant twins needs to have friends, relatives or someone they can rely on to call or check on them if there's a problem. Its responsible to have some sort of support system.

[LisaL]

16. This woman was an immigrant. I guess she

didn't have a perfect support system.

[OzarkDem]

36. Better if she hadn't become a single parent

but once she did, she should have taken responsibility to reach out to others and establish a support system. For the good of her children, their needs come first.

[LisaL]

52. It's not even clear to me that she in fact was a single parent.

The article said the children's father might be in Kenya. But even if she was, I would say she is hardly the only single parent in this country.
Gee.

[proud2BlibKansan]

19. And you are just sure she didn't have friends or relatives?

Or a support system? How do you know that?

[China_cat]

24. It's always the woman's fault. They have kids just because

they don't want to say no and are too lazy to use birth control. Then she died on purpose just to make sure that her kids were neglected. :sarcasm:

[OzarkDem]

29. I'm not saying its her fault

but I am saying when you bring children into the world, you need to assume a higher level of responsibility to protect yourself and them, especially if you're a single parent living alone. This was a tragedy that could have been prevented.

She should have had some sort of support network, someone she spoke with on a regular basis who might know to check on her children if something is wrong.

It reminds me of the tragic stories you read of single parents who leave kids home alone while they go off to work. Kids are left alone, start a fire, get injured, etc. Entirely preventable.

Bottom line, think twice before bringing children into the world. Make sure you can take care of them, love alone isn't enough. Make sure you're in a strong, loving relationship with someone who will be a responsible parent. Life isn't like the soaps or a sitcom where single moms live happily ever after. We can't plan for all tragedies, but many of these tragic situations could be prevented and children's lives saved if single parents made better choices.

Kids deserve a better world than this.

[LisaL]

43. Guess what? A lot of people don't have this perfect life, yet

they still go on living and even have kids. Imagine that.

[China_cat]

106. Kids deserve a better world than this

Yeah, they deserve to learn to read. Especially big red dripping words like :sarcasm:

[proud2BlibKansan]

51. I was thinking she was probably tasered

[fenriswolf]

11. or the women was killed and hid her her children

so that they would not be killed.

[AlCzervik]

12. there was nothing in the article that said she didn't care of them, she died

obviously unexpectedly.

[proud2BlibKansan]

18. Wow jumping to some conclusions there!

They have no idea why the mother died, but don't think it is foul play. I have no idea where you get the idea she didn't take responsibility for herself or her children. Do have some information about this story you would like to share with the rest of us?

[OzarkDem]

30. Support system

Regardless of the cause of her tragic death, a single parent, especially one with infant twins should have some kind of support system.

Her death might not have been prevented, but her childrens' lives could have been saved if she had established friendships, stayed in touch with relatives, neighbors or someone who would have checked on her.

Its tragic hearing of these stories of single parents with no support system who experience tragic ends and their poor children starve because no one checked on them.

[proud2BlibKansan]

35. How do you know she had no support system?

Maybe she had friends and neighbors who thought her other friends and neighbors had come by to check on her.

A woman I worked with fell at home and broke her hip. It was a Friday night. She was helpless until Monday morning when she didn't come to work. She had a son; he was out of town that weekend. Her friends called her and when she didn't answer, they assumed she had gone out of town with her son. It was a tragedy but she didn't lie there helpless because she had no support system. Stuff happens.

[OzarkDem]

39. A single mom w/ newborn twins

should have had someone who checked on her every day or so. At that early age, and given sleep deprivation from taking care of twin newborns she should have tried to have someone come by every day.

Kansans are good, caring, midwestern people for the most part. Someone would have helped her.

[proud2BlibKansan]

47. Again, you don't know that she didn't have that

Maybe there was a miscommunication among her 'support system'.

I find your comments about moving to a foreign country and lacking a support system rather offensive. I think this was just a horrific tragedy and my heart aches for the surviving baby. I don't think it is fair to make judgments beyond that.

[OzarkDem]

50. I feel badly about it too, its a terrible tragedy

Its sad to see these situations happening routinely. Sorry, but I feel there are limits on when parents should pursue raising small children on their own.

[proud2BlibKansan]

53. And I support a woman's right to choose

She had the right to choose to become a parent.

[OzarkDem]

55. And the children have a right

to be cared for by a parent who is doing all that is necessary to care for them. Not all that they can do, but all that is necessary.

[proud2BlibKansan]

57. And if they aren't that what's state agencies are for

Of course it's kind of hard to charge a parent with neglect when they are dead.

[LisaL]

58. Are you arguing that if someone dies, they in fact were unfit,

since how dare are they to die? Guess what? People die, you can't always plan those things.

[OzarkDem]

59. Good decisions have to happen early on

A single woman, living alone, pregnant with twins needs to make a difficult choice and decide whether she is capable of doing all that's necessary to provide for her children (temporarily moving in with a friend or family member, etc.) or put them in foster care or up for adoption. If she isn't assured of having the support and help she needs, she has a tough choice to make.

As I've said earlier, twin infants are a huge responsiblity, even for two parents. Its not a fairy tale existence where there's always a happy ending. Its hard work, lots of sleep deprivation, fatigue, etc.

That said, the hospital should also have done more to ensure she had the help she needed, too.

[LisaL]

61. Maybe, just maybe, she didn't expect to die.

It's like you are posting from another century or something. There are so many single parents now days.

[OzarkDem]

63. Sorry you don't get it

Taking care of newborn twins alone, with no one to help is a recipe for disaster.

[EFerrari]

76. Do you realize you are blaming this poor dead woman

for something she likely had no control over? Good grief.

[OzarkDem]

81. No, that's not what I'm saying

Her children's situation, whatever caused it, could have been prevented. Her death was obviously not anticipated, nor could have been prevented and that is tragic. But she put her children in a high risk situation by choosing to take care of twin newborn infants all alone, without adequate help or support system. The hospital and local social services should also bear some responsibility if they knew of her situation.

No, she couldn't anticipate that she would tragically die, but she or her doctor should have known that it was risky. Any number of things could have happened, from an accident to exhaustion to, no doubt, extreme emotional distress.

Supporting single parenthood is good, but doing so blindly without regard for the needs of children is bad.

On edit: I realize I'm flying in the face of conventional DU wisdom of never criticizing a single parent and also knew full well my comments would be misinterpreted endlessly. But sometimes we have to challenge stereotypes and think critically about things.

[Richard Steele]

21. What the FUCK are you even talking about?

[OzarkDem]

34. Ask again in a civil way and I'll tell you

What the FUCK are you cursing about?

[Richard Steele]

41. You post that HIDEOUS shit about a dead woman, and then cry for "civility". That's just rich.

Har-dee-fucking-har-har.


I really don't think I care to hear any more
of you defending that horrid statement, so
feel free to spare me your spinning explanations.

[OzarkDem]

45. I've posted nothing hideous about the woman

I have lamented the fact that she put her children in such a tragic situation by not making sure she had others to check on her. Having children is a big responsibility, especially newborn twins.

[Richard Steele]

97. Your original response was as HIDEOUS as your attempts to whitewash it are UNCONVINCING.

And both strike me as utterly DESPICABLE. :puke:

[Richard Steele]

113. Just KICKING this so more DUers can see Ozark's comments upon a young Mom who died unexpectedly.

[shugah]

22. there are some things inherently wrong with your post

there are many people that hope to move to a foreign country to better their and their children's options, which would seem to contradict your next point - why have children if you can't take care of them. maybe by moving to a foreign country this mother hoped to be better able to care for her children?

[OzarkDem]

31. Its still a poor choice

Moving to a new country, not making friends, becoming a single parent with no support system.

Sorry, its a tragic situation, but its even more tragic to think the childrens death could have been prevented. Three days is a long time to not have anyone checking on you.

Sorry to be an iconoclast on this one, but I'm not a big fan of irresponsible single parenthood.

[LanternWaste]

112. choices are made that never have had the opportunity...

"Its still a poor choice"

Unfortunately, too many times forced choices are made that never have had the opportunity to be tempered with hindsight, analyzed by our peers, and judged with foresight. Sometimes circumstances dictate that a choice must be made-- regardless of whether we're aware of what the right choice is or isn't.




"Three days is a long time to not have anyone checking on you."

It's relative, I s'pose. I'm a guy with a big family, lots of friends and a bus load of co-workers-- yet I can easily go a long weekend without being in touch with any of them (as I'm hoping to do this weekend :evilgrin: )

Fundamentally though, the best we can do at this point is entertain conjecture as to whether she was a responsible mother or not-- but as we don't having anything directly pointing to malfeasant mothering skills on her part, I'm not sure why it becomes a point at all.

[pnwmom]

26. How do you know she didn't move here with family when she was a child?

You know nothing about her except that she died alone and yet you're acting as if she wasn't taking responsibility.

[OzarkDem]

32. Twin infants, single parent, no support system

not a good scenario. Children deserve a parent who can take care and look out for them, someone who is connected to the community in case of an emergency.

[tammywammy]

40. You're assuming all of that

From the second article:
"Olathe Police have notified members of Njoroge’s family, some here and some in Kenya. "

She must have had some family in the states. No one knows how long she's lived here either. And you're assuming that she had no support system.

[LisaL]

42. Oh for crying out loud. Not everybody has this perfect life,

you apparently think people are supposed to have. You don't even know if this woman in fact is the single mother. The article mentioned the children's father could be in Kenya.

[Ghost in the Machine]

49. Is there a website or email address where every single parent

or soon to be single parent can contact you to get your approval to have or keep their child? If not, www.canihavemybaby.com is available for registration at godaddy.com... I just checked for you.

We need some kind of spray, this place has been infested with morals & ethics fairies the last couple of days...

[OzarkDem]

54. Though its a tough choice, its common sense

Its encouraging that society has come to the point where we no longer treat single mothers as outcasts. But sometimes it seems we've gone overboard in promoting single parenting to the degree that its considered acceptable for anyone, regardless of their personal situation. Single parents are given false hopes that they can handle it, when sometimes they can't.

Read any newspaper every day or ask someone who works in child welfare and they will tell you the same. Children have rights, too, the right to be raised in a situation where they receive adequate care and support.

[Ghost in the Machine]

69. No matter how you try to justify or rationalize your statement

you sound like an authoritarian who wants to decide who and who shouldn't have a baby.

I've been a single father for 11 years now, but I guess by your standards & logic I should have put my kids up for adoption when I became disabled in an accident at work 4 years ago...

It's not up to you who does or doesn't have kids... PERIOD.

Tell me, do you want to go and take children out of every home in the United States where the parents are really poor and really can't afford their kids without assistance from welfare and/or foodstamps?? I mean hell, they can't properly care for their children without help from the government, right? And since they need this help from the government, they obviously have no family or extended support system to help them out, right?? RIGHT???

Authoritarianism is bullshit, no matter how you slice it...

[OzarkDem]

71. Sorry, but you're wrong

and if that's what you read into my comments, then you are mistaken.

I also know a lot of people who are single parents and do a good job, including members of my own family.

But I also know that not every person is capable of being a single parent and not every situation is conducive to caring for a child alone with no help. I would expect that single parents also care about the needs of children and feel the same way, that sometimes the needs of the kids have to take priority over the wants of parents.


In our desire to support single parents, we sometimes go too far and forget that good judgement needs to be applied. No, its not popular to speak out in those situations calling a parents abilities into question. But someone has to do it.

[proud2BlibKansan]

56. . . .

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[Ghost in the Machine]

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[OzarkDem]

68. Its a pity

that the death of an innocent infant amuses you.

Sorry if I don't buy into the idea that every single parent is capable of caring for children on their own.

Someone has to think about the rights of the children, too.

Adoption is an alternative.

[Ghost in the Machine]

72. Please point out where I'm amused.....

Did I say that anywhere???

I didn't think so...

I'm not amused by the death of a baby, but I am thoroughly disgusted by the stench of your authoritarianistic, holier than thou attitude...

If you can't defend your position without misrepresenting what I said or without making up bullshit & flat out lies just don't bother to respond any more.... you're only digging yourself in deeper...

[OzarkDem]

74. Spend a day with a child welfare worker

and I guarantee you won't think protecting the interests of kids is "authoritarian".

[pnwmom]

98. You blamed her for coming to this country, without knowing anything

about why she came here, or what age she was when she came. What was that all about?

If she did come here as an adult, for all we know about her she could be an orphan herself, with no support system there, either. Africa is full of them.

[TahitiNut]

14. We are family! Get up ev'rybody and sing!

We are fami...

:cry: :banghead: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

[Ilsa]

15. Postpartum complication: possibly an embolism. Blood clots

happen postpartum sometimes.

As for the babies moving, if they were large enough, it seems possible they could have inched their way along.

That poor woman, caring for twins on her own in a strange country.

[LisaL]

20. Inched their way along under the bed?

Why would they do it? This doesn't make sense to me. If the woman suddenly died from natural causes, I don't understand as to why her babies would end up under the bed. The thing that makes sense is that she was scared of someone/something, and hid the babies, yet authorities claim they couldn't find evidence of foul play.

[pnwmom]

27. Maybe she thought they'd be warmer there? And closer to her? n/t

[LisaL]

28. Unless she herself planned to get under the bed, how would they

be closer to her?
As for warmer? I don't know of anyone who keeps their kids under the bed so they be warmer.

[pnwmom]

96. I don't know anyone who would do that, either.

I'm just thinking out loud, trying to make some sense out of something that makes no sense.

[Ilsa]

65. We had to watch for rolling over even in newborns when I worked in

a newborn nursery.

[LisaL]

67. But there were two of them.

Seems strange to me both of them would be rolling under the bed.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

85. twins seek eachother out constantly...they lived together in the womb and know their sibbling

[LisaL]

86. They were three weeks old. You are acting

as if at this age, they could move together in one direction. I find a more likely explanation in that someone put these babies under the bed.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

90. oy ...okay

[Skittles]

99. stop feeding the trolls

please

[ElsewheresDaughter]

91. yes as twins they could and would move together in one direction...towards each other

twins ARE like that....again...it is very plausible

[LisaL]

94. I don't find it plausible.

We know there was at least one adult in the apartment, their mother, who could have for whatever reason placed them under the bed. Obviously before she died. I just think that someone placing them under the bed is a more plausible explanation than both of them somehow moving under the bed.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

95. do you have children?

[EFerrari]

101. She's dead. Unless someone in her family pushes really hard,

there's no impetus for the police to investigate. Terrible, regardless. :(

[LisaL]

102. Sometimes even if the family pushes seems like

not much is done. Look at the case on the news, with the police man and his forth wife missing. His third wife was found dead in a bath tub, and the death was ruled accidental. Even though the body supposedly had bruises on it. Now that the forth wife went missing, the body of the third wife has been exhumed.

[EFerrari]

103. I saw that. Four women later, someone gets a clue.

:(

[tammywammy]

23. That's very sad

Very sad. The second article mentioned she has family here and in Keyna. Very sad indeed.

[rodeodance]

25. An estimated 16,000 Kenyans live in the Kansas City area, Bwosinde said

An estimated 16,000 Kenyans live in the Kansas City area, Bwosinde said. OKKC has about 300 active members and contact with several thousand Kenyans in the area.

Njoroge was not a member of the Kenyan organization and not known to many Kenyans in the area. Omondi said co-workers at a Johnson County nursing home have described her as quiet and reserved.

It isn’t known how long Njoroge lived in the area.

Bwosinde said his organization has raised money before when someone from Kenya has died in the area and needed to be sent home for burial. It costs about $11,000 per body, he said.

This is the first time, he said, they’ll be raising money to ship two bodies at one time.

“All we have to do is ask every Kenyan in Kansas City to help,” Bwosinde said. “We are all connected.”

[1932]

38. So sad. So sad that a woman could have twins but didn't have family support or friends who were

stopping by or calling every couple of hours to share her joy.

[951-Riverside]

77. I guess her mind never left Africa n/t

[LisaL]

89. I am not sure as to what you mean by that.

[Richard Steele]

104. Care to explain what you mean by that? I'd hate to think that was as RACIST as it sounds.

[NorthernSpy]

115. I guess your head will never leave your ass...

:eyes:

[Tatiana]

100. I am amazed by some of the sentiments expressed in this post.

Most of the posters, thank God, see this for the tragedy it is. However, some have rushed to blame the poor, dead mother for this situation. What, because she was a single parent, she didn't deserve to have children?

Tragedies happen. I raised one child as a single parent and if something had happened to me, though I did have friends and family, it may have taken some time for loved ones to realize. I think it's horribly classist and sexist to blame this dead mother for what happened. Items were found for the children's care in the residence. This woman probably loved and took care of her babies just fine. Tragedies also happen in two-parent homes and to families with tons of relatives and friends as well.

I wish some people would get over themselves and find some compassion and understanding.

[Richard Steele]

105. It really is AMAZING sometimes, isn't it?

And not in a good way.

[Tatiana]

108. Amazing in the worst way.

"Sorry, but I feel there are limits on when parents should pursue raising small children on their own."

My jaw just dropped when I read that statement. It sounded so much like * saying "there ought to be some limits to freedom."

I don't see how anyone purporting to hold progressive views could feel that way.

[proud2BlibKansan]

107. Thank you

My first thought was that she had complications following delivery and had no access to affordable health care. If I had any idea she would be attacked in this thread, I would never have posted this story.

[coffee_strong]

109. OMGOSH, the comments are mindboggling

First of all I'm a mother of many and can attest that a baby as young as a week old can low crawl. Two of my sons did this. I'd lay them on my bed with pillows around them, go do dishes or laundry, come check on them 5-10 minutes later, and I'd see them moving(low crawling) or up about 3-4inches from where I laid them. Once that happened I'd never leave them on my bed alone again..only a crib or bassinet. So it is possible that the babies were laying next to one another, and the frantic crying and moving landed them on the floor. I am surprised they even lived as long as 3 weeks, WOW!!!!


Secondly, the responsibility comments. Who in the world expects to die, around 30 something? I have a feeling this is post pregnancy related, especially if she had a c/section. Also who's to say that she didn't come here for a better life? Maybe no one called her form work, because she was on MATERNITY LEAVE?? Maybe others did call, or stop by, but didn't get an answer, or maybe they didn't want to bother her since most ppl know having a newborn is tiring. I can't believe ppl are calling her irresponsible!!

[proud2BlibKansan]

110. My youngest moved all the way across the bed when he was 4 days old.

I went in to get him after a nap and he was at the opposite end of the crib from where I had put him. So yes, I agree they can move.

I don't think it is fair to judge this mother for several reasons. She is dead and we don't know all of the circumstances.

[LisaL]

114. The babies didn't live for 3 weeks after mother died.

They were 3 weeks old, but their mother was only dead for a couple of days.

[coffee_strong]

116. thanks for the clarification

makes less sense why ppl are hatin on the deceased woman.

[JNelson6563]

111. Those poor babies!

I wonder what happened to this unfortunate woman. I hope the remaining child lives and goes on to have a happy life.

What a very sad story. :cry:

Julie