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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 08:01 AM
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Travelers To & From UK Must Answer 53 Questions BEFORE They Can Travel
Terror crackdown: Passengers forced to answer 53 questions BEFORE they travel

Daily Mail
By JAMES SLACK
Last updated at 17:37pm on 15th November 2007


Travellers face price hikes and confusion after the Government unveiled plans to take up to 53 pieces of information from anyone entering or leaving Britain. For every journey, security officials will want credit card details, holiday contact numbers, travel plans, email addresses, car numbers and even any previous missed flights.

The information, taken when a ticket is bought, will be shared among police, customs, immigration and the security services for at least 24 hours before a journey is due to take place. Anybody about whom the authorities are dubious can be turned away when they arrive at the airport or station with their baggage.

Those with outstanding court fines, such as a speeding penalty, could also be barred from leaving the country, even if they pose no security risk. The information required under the "e-borders" system was revealed as Gordon Brown announced plans to tighten security at shopping centres, airports and ports.

This could mean additional screening of baggage and passenger searches, with resulting delays for travellers. The e-borders scheme is expected to cost at least £1.2billion over the next decade.



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=493912&in_page_id=1770&ito=1490">More


- And Big Brother moves one step closer to absolute and total control of our lives....
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The2ndWheel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 08:31 AM
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1. Get used to it. I like #45
We don't know what else to ask, so just give us everything you got.
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mainegreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 08:39 AM
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2. Yeah, that one really sticks out, doesn't it?
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 09:49 AM
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5. No I won't get used to it....
....I just won't be going to the UK.

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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 12:56 PM
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12. Just in case #31 missed anything ... nt
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sweetpotato Donating Member (678 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 09:44 AM
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3. They ask for seat info
about 3 times. #33, 43 and 48.

Is that like those weird personality tests that prospective employees must take where they basically ask "Are you a theif" in several different ways?

This seems uduly onerous.
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 09:51 AM
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7. Obviously if you answer differently....
....on those questions, you MUST be a terraist. Someone punch the RENDITION button.



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sweetpotato Donating Member (678 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 09:44 AM
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4. Dupe - sorry
Edited on Fri Nov-16-07 09:45 AM by aphopkin
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CT_Progressive Donating Member (889 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 09:50 AM
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6. Those aren't questions they ask, they are fields of data on a form.
Very few of those are actually asked to the passenger.
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 09:55 AM
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9. Beg pardon???
Edited on Fri Nov-16-07 10:04 AM by DeSwiss
From the article:

"The information, taken when a ticket is bought, will be shared among police, customs, immigration and the security services for at least 24 hours before a journey is due to take place."

*snip*

By 2014 every one of the predicted 305million passenger journeys in and out of the UK will be logged, with details stored about the passenger on every trip.

The scheme will apply to every way of leaving the country, whether by ferry, plane, or small aircraft. It would apply to a family having a day out in France by Eurotunnel, and even to a yachtsman leaving British waters during the day and returning to shore.

The measure applies equally to UK residents going abroad and foreigners travelling here. The information will be stored for as long as the authorities believe it is useful, allowing them to build a complete picture of where a person has been over their lifetime, how they paid and the contact numbers of who they stayed with.


So do I need new glasses or what??? Or are they just lying???

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Nihil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 10:44 AM
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11. Given that it's the Daily Mail ...
> So do I need new glasses or what??? Or are they just lying???

... I'd go for option 2.

FWIW, most of those answers (i.e., except for the ones added by the DM)
are already being asked by US Fatherland Security on any flights to the
USA (and possibly on those transitting the USA).

The "news" in this article is that Brown is just turning into another poodle.

:shrug:
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 09:52 AM
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8. I guess "V for Vendetta" Britain isn't such a fantasy afterall.....
:scared:
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 09:57 AM
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10. But don't you feel....
...so much more secure now??? :sarcasm:

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conspirator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 01:37 PM
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13. This must be for flights from or to out of the EU surely. Otherwise it would break EU rules
of free movement. I can drive from the UK to France to Spain to Portugal without providing any more information than my passport. Of course they can change the rules.
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 04:18 PM
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14. Since the UK isn't part of the Schwengen agreement
(which is why you have to show a passport coming in or out of the UK), I suspect they can do it without changing and European rules - or maybe even UK ones.
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 04:20 PM
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15. Yet another reason to avoid UK airports!
Heathrow and Gatwick themselves being the first two...
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