I don't like the term 'pro-life.' I think 'pro-death' is much more appropriate. Here's why.

[Danger Mouse]

I am sick of conservative sleaze bags monopolizing the 'pro-life' label. Yeah, cause the opposite of life is 'death' so we must be 'pro-death!'
All they care about is the embryo...once it's a child, they cease to care about it.
They don't care if the child dies for lack of health care. In fact, they want less health care for the poor...let those damn kids pay for their own medical treatment!
They don't care if the child dies for want of food. In fact, they don't care about feeding the poor...let 'em starve if they're too lazy to get a job! This is AMERICA, the land of OPPORTUNITY, can't they get some work and pull themselves up by their bootstraps like the rest of us??
They don't care if the child lacks a meaningful education and has no opportunities in life. In fact, all that matters to them is TEST SCORES TEST SCORES TEST SCORES!!!
They don't care if the child dies bleeding to death in the streets, murdered because of gang violence. Who cares about them, anyway? American Idol is on the television. Turn off that depressing news about the murdered black kid, I want to hear more about the missing white girl.
They don't care if the child is battered, abused, even killed by a parent. Hell, lots of times, it's THEM doin the abusin'! It's not ABUSE, it's teaching em not to sass!!!
They don't care if an abortion clinic Doctor or nurse is murdered or a clinic is bombed...those sinners had it coming!! Punishing the killers? Why? They were doing the lord's work! Ah, the irony of being 'pro-life' and bombing an abortion clinic...the stench of verminous corruption makes me want to :puke:
To be perfectly blunt, Rescumlicans don't care about kids once they pop out of the womb. Well...they do care about controlling every aspect of children's lives, criminalizing all of their behaviors, and turning public schools into prisons. How far are we away from students being gunned down in the halls by police or 'security officers' rather than other kids? Hey, I've got an idea! Hire Blackwater to watch them kids...have em shoot up a few of em...that'll learn em to talk back to their teachers!

Furthermore, I once had a friend tell me, in all honesty, that he would not support a woman having an abortion if carrying the pregnancy to term would kill her...he actually had the gall to suggest that the woman should die for her baby. This is their mentality. They just LOVE the idea of subjugating women and enforcing their fantasy of complete male domination.

Once the child has grown, if he or she has survived lack of health care, street violence, poverty, lack of education and career prospects, parental abuse, drugs, lack of support networks and more...why, then he or she can be a SOLDIER! Then he or she can be an american HERO! He or she can get his/her face blown off for JUSTICE! They'll silently mourn them, put yellow ribbons on their gas-guzzling Hummers, pretend that they care about them, but not want to see those depressing pictures reminding them of his or her TRUE sacrifices.

Of course, they support the death penalty. They love it. Just ask George W. Bush. Someone tasered to death by the police? They must've deserved it. Shot by the cops? Had it comin'! Execution? Hey, they were guilty so they deserved it, right?

Some asshole in Colorado had the GALL to suggest that abortion is to blame for the Columbine shootings! Sadly, he lost a kid in the shootings, but WAY TO TOTALLY SPIT ON WHAT CAUSED YOUR SON'S DEATH, IDIOT! This just goes to show the head-crammed-up-the-ass mentality of these trogolodytes...they shit on everything and anything that they don't understand. I'm sick of it, and I'm sick of these barbarians having such an influential voice in our government. I DON'T WANT TO LIVE IN THE DARK AGES ALONG WITH THESE MORONS, THANK YOU VERY MUCH!
It's disgusting. It's sickening. It's our culture of violence and death, and the Republicans are at the center of it.
'Pro-life' is sickeningly inappropriate. At every turn, the so-called 'pro-lifers' prove themselves to be exactly the opposite.
They are 'pro-death.' Death is what they love, death for others, death for whom they deem inferior, and I think this label should stick to them like glue.

[fizzgig]

1. i wanted to use the word troglodyte in my op

but never worked it in

the culture of death that surrounds the right is terrifying. they revel in death, the cherish it and only seek to bring about more.

i don't even bother any more trying to figure out how someone's heart can be so black as to find such joy in death and destruction.

[Danger Mouse]

4. i love the word, personally.

and it describes these slime perfectly.
George W. Bush is their poster boy...the sadistic little child who grew up into a vicious and bloodthirsty man.

[Danger Mouse]

2. well...hopefully someone reads it..eventually....crickets chirping...

[supernova]

3. I call them "Forced-birthers"

because you're right, they only have a fetus fetish. Once it's here and living and breathing, they cease to care about it. No good schools. No after school enrichement, no well baby care, no immunizations, no food stamps for mom, etc...

[Danger Mouse]

5. Nothing. Nothing. It disgusts me.

How can they, with a straight face, cry for the rights of the fetus, when the rights of the child itself, they could care less about?
How many children die in this country every year because of lack of health insurance? Why are our infant mortality rates so disgraceful?

[one408]

9. Health Insurance...

"How many children die in this country every year because of lack of health insurance?"
Do you mean that doctors let children die because they do not have health insurance? I find that hard to believe. Do you have any statistics to back that up?

[Danger Mouse]

12. It's not the fault of the doctors.

Oftentimes, parents don't know what their options are, or what they can do. They don't have any resources.

[one408]

14. NICU...

One of my daughters works in the NICU. I know that they treat very sick babies in there. I know that a lot of them are poor and do not have health insurance. All of the personnel work hard to keep all of the babies alive whether they have insurance or not.

[Danger Mouse]

15. Like I said...

it's not the doctors and nurses at fault.
Generally, they do what they can.

[Der Blaue Engel]

18. This shouldn't have to be explained to you

Obviously, if parents can't afford health care, they not only can't afford care for themselves (including prenatal care), they can't afford it for their children. They can't afford post-natal care. They can't afford immunizations and may not know where to go to get the assistance to get them (where it exists). They can't afford preventive care or regular check-ups. They can't afford to take the child in for non-emergencies like fevers or ear infections or strep throat, and by the time a life-threatening emergency occurs where a doctor will actually treat the child because of moral obligation, it is too late for many conditions.

Doctors are under no obligation to take on patients for free, and why should they? They often won't even take them if they have health insurance, so what makes you think they'll take extra patients who can't even pay? If you think I'm making some random assertion, I can assure you I speak from very personal experience.

I had no health insurance before or during my pregnancy. I could not afford prenatal care and I made too much on unemployment (after my company laid me off for getting pregnant) to qualify for Medicaid. My child was born at home without medical professionals, because I could not afford a hospital birth. I saved my unemployment checks and skipped my iron pills and protein foods needed to counteract my prenatal anemia to be able to pay the $1,200 to my lay midwives. I could have been admitted to a hospital once it became an emergency, but there was no one to medically monitor me to be sure of making that decision.

Once my son was born, healthy, thankfully, I had to jump through all kinds of hoops and humilation to get immunizations and check-ups for him. Luckily I had the resources to do so and the experience and education to know how to seek the help that was available. (Of course, there was that first week of my son's life where I couldn't get him to nurse and had no hospital nurse to help me get him to latch on. Luckily, I found a La Leche League volunteer to come help me.) Eventually, though, after I found work, I made "too much" money to qualify for any kind of assistance and no one would see my child. It wasn't until he was two years old that I finally had a job that provided insurance. When they started taking $25 a paycheck for my son's health care the following year, I was living hand to mouth trying to take care of all of the unpaid bills accrued during my unemployment, and this deduction from my paycheck was just one more hardship.

I could go on, but I shouldn't have to.

[Danger Mouse]

19. It's easier to spew an RW talking point...

than to actually think.
Thank you for putting a face on the monstrosity that is our 'health care' system. :pals:

[Der Blaue Engel]

23. Glad to be able to offer my perspective

and glad to be lucky enough not to be in that situation anymore, though I know full well that I'm just a paycheck or two away from it.

HRC's health care reform was something I had high hopes for at the time, incidentally. That was the year the company added a contribution for single parents. It was disheartening to see it fail. (Especially while my colleagues cheered. I work for a benefits consulting firm.)

:pals:

[Danger Mouse]

24. Sad to see how controlled our country is by privatized health care and big business...

everyone suffers but the very rich. How can any of us be so fooled as to think of it as in our best interests?

[supernova]

10. Because our dog eat dog capitalist society

pits one American against another.

All that crap around racism, immigrant paranoia, living in a gated community to protect you from the unwashed masses is really just a disguise for being able to think yourself more worthy based on a bigger bank account than your neighbors.

Fucking economic savagery given legitimacy by that idiot Milton Friedman.

[Danger Mouse]

13. We promote competition and distance from one another...

if people are out to get one another, they can't stand together.
It's all part of the plan. Isolate everyone so they all stand alone.
Individually, the masses are much easier to control.

[supernova]

16. Yep. Divide and conquer

because it works.

:-(

Will our society ever figure that out, do you think?

[Danger Mouse]

17. Some very important things need to happen first.

We need true progressives in the white house and a few in congress.
The obscene power given to corporations needs to be broken up.
Lastly, media de-regulation needs to be done away with. Media should be by of and for the people, not by of and for big business.
Who knows if any of that will ever come to pass?
Maybe our country is already doomed to slide into ruin and totalitarianism.

[Didereaux]

6. Prolife + anti-SCHIP = INFANTACIDE period. equation balanced.

[Danger Mouse]

7. Hey, that's one way to get rid of the lower classes...let em die off!

Keep some around for prison labor...others around for the criminal element...eliminate middle class...the rest can die! It's the perfect plan!

[OffWithTheirHeads]

8. They are NOT pro life, they are pro birth!

What happens AFTER you are born is pick yourself up by your bootstraps time and fuck you very much.

[Danger Mouse]

11. i like 'pro-death' better...

after all, they have their own emotionally manipulative lable for themselves, why not give them an emotionally manipulative label that is much more ACCURATE? :D

[pansypoo53219]

20. more like pro-fetus

tho if birth makes women suffer, even better.

[pansypoo53219]

21. more like pro-fetus

tho if birth makes women suffer, even better.

[Danger Mouse]

22. the better to make the lowly woman suffer for daring to exist in the MAN'S world...

:puke:

[Danger Mouse]

25. Anyone want to read it again?

:D