Just came from seeing "Lions for Lambs"

[Bluzmann57]

And I must say that despite his antics, Tom Cruise can still act. As can Meryl Streep and Redford. It certainly is an anti war film, the dialogue is somewhat contrived, but the point is made and made very well. One line I thought was telling was when the Commander of the mission, after losing two soldiers, said "I'd sure as fuck like to meet whoever put this together." Or something like that. Overall, not a bad film. I bet if it gets any coverage at all on the 24 hr. news channels, it will be negative because the film also took on the cheerleading the media did in the run up to Iraq. I would recommend that all anti war people see this film. On second thought, it might be better if pro war people see it because it may just change their minds.
edited for spelling and poor typing skills

[BrklynLiberal]

1. Thanks for the input...

[MADem]

2. I'm not much of a moviegoer, but Cruise's presence in the film puts it on my "Give it a Miss" list.

Not even Ms. Streep can compensate for him, and I find her superb in everything.

If it hits cable, though, I'll look at it.

At this stage, I don't need a movie to tell me that we're in a war mess, and surrounded by fools, anyway. So I'm a choir member that doesn't wanna hear any preaching, I guess!

I will tell people that I've heard it isn't horrible, if asked.

[devilgrrl]

3. I agree. People can tout Cruise's "acting ability" until they're blue in the face.

There are at least 50+ other actors in the business who can perform just as well or better than he.

[skipos]

4. I usually won't avoid a movie because I dislike an actor offscreen

but Cruise really started to bug the crap out of me lately. I definitely don't feel like shelling out $10 to look at him for 2 hours. I'll get it from the library.

[DangerDave921]

5. Rotten Tomatoes

It's getting lousy reviews from just about everyone. They say it is very "message-y" and basically spouts things we all know anyway. A good attempt, I think, but hard to pull off.

[EVDebs]

11. See Three Days of the Condor instead ... and discusss it afterwards

The reviews of Lions For Lambs say it's like a lecture; Three Days of the Condor is right out of the newspapers and documentable,

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2004/01/02/MNG8G427D61.DTL

and showing that this is what the DoD wanted all along in the Middle East. We wasted 30+ years instead of finding alternatives to oil. This is the price we're paying...at the boxoffice too.

[DangerDave921]

12. Very Cool

That is a cool movie. Go out for coffee, come back, and find your entire office staff splattered. Seems to me like the prescursor of the Bourne movies, which are also great. Lone guy, being chased by shadowy figures.

[EVDebs]

13. In 'dual feature' mode rent The Conversation to go with it

The stuff in that movie has moved far beyond the Harry Caul stuff (which is why they picked Hackman to do the Enemy of the State movie).



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Conversation

and dig this film buffs,

"As of September 2007, Francis Ford Coppola will produce a remake of this movie (The Conversation) with Paramount Pictures. The script will be written by screenwriter Stuart Beattie. This new version is set for release in 2009, incorporating post-9/11 paranoia instead of personal demons. Mikael Hofstrom will direct the remake."

[DangerDave921]

15. Another classic!

You know your movies!

[EVDebs]

16. I'm just a crusty old fart, that's all.

[CTyankee]

14. It was great and had one of the best sex scenes allowable in

movie theatres in that era. Redford and Dunaway were just electric together!

Of course, the politics of that movie were great also. It creeps you out a lot but all in all a superb film, beautifully acted, esp. the villain played by Max von Sidow.

[truedelphi]

18. That MAx Von Sidow guy was a fabulously complex villain

The whole film is perffect. IO think I've seen it like twelve times or something.

Not a scene you could cut and nothing needed to be added.

[Cybergata]

20. I love Three Days of the Condor! n/t

[Cybergata]

21. I love Three Days of the Condor! n/t

[MADem]

7. I really don't care for him much ONSCREEN, either, though!!

His offscreen lunacies just 'bleed over' somehow. That painful Kubrick disaster that he did with his former wife was just...hideous. That's well before he 'jumped the couch' but that's when I said "There's just somethin' not genuine with that boy..."

[progressoid]

6. They should have made this movie in 2003

[Dawgs]

8. That "movie" was terrible.

And, it wasn't that anti-war. I wish I could get my eight bucks back.

[robinlynne]

9. You're right, it is getting negative coverage. Thanks for your OP, cause

now I will definitely go see it.

[EVDebs]

10. 30 years were wasted since Three Days Of The Condor (1975)

And this is what happens when you don't listen to the people,

"Do we have plans to invade
the Middle East?

- Areyou crazy?
- Am l?

- Look, Turner--
- Do we have plans?

No. Absolutely not.

We have games. That's all.

We play games-- What if?
How many men?
What would it take?
Is there a cheaper way
to destabilize a regime?
- That's what we're paid to do.
- Walk on.

Go on.

So Atwoodjust took the games
too seriously.

He was really going to do it,
wasn't he? A renegade operation.

Atwood knew would
never authorize it,
not with the heat
on the company.

What ifthere hadn't
been any heat?
Suppose I hadn't stumbled
on their plan?

Different ballgame."


http://www.script-o-rama.com/movie_scripts/t/three-days-of-the-condor-script.html

Also, they NEVER ask the people. And the NYTimes prints what the CIA tells it to.

[Fly by night]

17. If you want an outstanding anti-Iraq film, see "In the Valley of Elah".

It is the best movie (fiction OR non-fiction) I have seen on any subject in the past five years.

And I see 70+ movies a year.

Anyone who is unclear on the real costs to our country from the Iraq/Afghanistan debacles should see this movie.

[Bluzmann57]

19. Thanks. I'll look for it

It should be available on dvd somewhere I would think.