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leftyladyfrommo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 10:04 AM Original message |
The Smart Car is Coming, the Smart Car is Coming - in two months |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 10:07 AM Response to Original message |
1. If it ran on methane, we could have a cow in every car. |
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Vilis Veritas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 05:30 PM Response to Reply #1 |
55. and then you'd have to worry about those high school kids... |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 06:14 PM Response to Reply #1 |
57. Nah... no Need for a Cow. Just Turn on AM Right Wing Radio |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 10:07 AM Response to Original message |
2. 36/40? For that little thing? Shit! That sucks! Why such bad mileage? |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 10:11 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Not bad for a death trap |
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leftyladyfrommo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 10:12 AM Response to Reply #4 |
7. Prius is a lot more expensive. |
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leftyladyfrommo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 10:56 AM Response to Reply #4 |
15. I know that is the big argument against the little cars - but |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 05:21 PM Response to Reply #15 |
54. Well good luck |
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Clark2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 12:07 PM Response to Reply #4 |
36. And I hate Toyotas. |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 05:12 PM Response to Reply #36 |
52. I hate it when people who support Clark say "trust me". |
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crispini (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 12:31 PM Response to Reply #4 |
40. Not a death trap |
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gorekerrydreamticket (422 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 01:02 PM Response to Reply #4 |
42. Prius is great until you need to replace the batteries for $6,000 or so. |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 05:09 PM Original message |
The batteries last the life of the car |
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gorekerrydreamticket (422 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 06:11 PM Response to Original message |
56. You're right, I was repeating something a car salesman told me |
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PSUDem (33 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 11:31 AM Response to Reply #2 |
22. Well, Unless the Car has been Changed.. 60 mpg |
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SharonRB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 11:51 AM Response to Reply #22 |
28. That article is three years old |
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PSUDem (33 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 12:25 PM Response to Reply #28 |
38. Actually, It is |
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magellan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 12:02 PM Response to Reply #2 |
32. Because they're increasing the engine/shell size to sell it here |
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Telly Savalas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 10:38 PM Response to Reply #32 |
63. I thought the lower fuel efficiency was the selling point for Americans. |
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CRF450 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 10:40 PM Response to Reply #2 |
82. 30 years ago, bigger cars got much worser mpg then they do today. |
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mikeytherat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-14-07 08:22 AM Response to Reply #2 |
91. I have a 1995 Ford Escort wagon with the 1.9 litre four-cylinder engine |
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zabet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 10:08 AM Response to Original message |
3. Glad to see it. |
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leftyladyfrommo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 10:11 AM Response to Reply #3 |
5. I really think that having a mini car is going to be the "in" thing here |
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EV_Ares (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 10:12 AM Response to Original message |
6. You got the better deal. The car may be ok but this will be a game |
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leftyladyfrommo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 10:14 AM Response to Reply #6 |
9. I like my Yaris. |
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EV_Ares (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 10:18 AM Response to Reply #9 |
11. Good, thanks for the tip, yeah front wheel drive should take care of |
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leftyladyfrommo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 10:32 AM Response to Reply #11 |
12. There are lots and lots of little cars out there now. Most brands |
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lutefisk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 12:08 PM Response to Reply #9 |
37. Yaris is great, but Toyota makes side/curtain air bags optional! |
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NightWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 10:13 AM Response to Original message |
8. I'm with you, my Corolla kicks the Smart Car's ass |
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leftyladyfrommo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 10:15 AM Response to Reply #8 |
10. Boy, Corollas are really popular around here - I see them |
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Tommy_Carcetti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-14-07 07:45 AM Response to Reply #8 |
89. I hate my Corolla but it does get good mpg |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 10:39 AM Response to Original message |
13. I drove one in Germany last year and LOVED it. Park anywhere, fun. easy. I'm gonna go topless. |
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leftyladyfrommo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 10:53 AM Response to Reply #13 |
14. Going topless would be fun! N/t |
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kelligesq (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 10:59 AM Response to Reply #13 |
18. You see them all over Paris - look like little car that has been cut in half |
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leftyladyfrommo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 11:05 AM Response to Reply #18 |
19. Don't people drive them on the highways in Europe? |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 11:41 AM Response to Reply #19 |
24. There's a guy that owns a Smart in the next building over from where I work |
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kelligesq (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 11:48 AM Response to Reply #19 |
25. I only saw them in-town, but think someone said they have limit to speed |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 02:02 PM Response to Reply #19 |
43. I saw them on the Autobahn. My friend commutes from Potsdam to Berlin in one |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 02:18 PM Response to Reply #43 |
74. Then you can probably answer my question... |
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WritersBlock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 02:21 PM Response to Reply #19 |
45. I have one. I drive it on the motorway when necessary, but it's better for in town. |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 10:56 AM Response to Original message |
16. 17,000? |
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leftyladyfrommo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 10:57 AM Response to Reply #16 |
17. I think the price was about $16,950 - something like that. |
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gorekerrydreamticket (422 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 01:00 PM Response to Reply #16 |
41. Actually, I doubt you will be able to buy one for under $20,000 |
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Alcibiades (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 02:35 PM Response to Reply #16 |
76. Base MSRP is $11,950 |
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Basileus Basileon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 11:13 AM Response to Original message |
20. The Smart is beautiful. But why is the mileage so mediocre? nt |
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LibertyLover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 11:25 AM Response to Original message |
21. A friend of mine just e-mailed me that she had put $99 down |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 11:33 AM Response to Original message |
23. Why did you say 36/40 when the article says 60 mpg? |
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n2doc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 11:49 AM Response to Reply #23 |
27. OK, once and for all, it is 40-50 mpg |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 12:03 PM Response to Reply #27 |
33. " EPA challenges Smart Car's claims" |
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SharonRB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 11:48 AM Response to Original message |
26. I put my deposit down last March |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 11:57 AM Response to Reply #26 |
30. Hey thanks for supporting Michigan! nt |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 11:56 AM Response to Original message |
29. I don't understand why this car gets such poor mileage--sounds like poor engineering. |
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magellan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 12:05 PM Response to Reply #29 |
34. Because it's been modified for the US market |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 02:20 PM Response to Reply #34 |
44. So you're saying US safety regulations are part of the problem? nt |
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magellan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 03:05 PM Response to Reply #44 |
48. No, pandering to the US market is the problem |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 03:27 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. I'm not so sure about that. I don't believe the Euro model passes US crash tests...nt |
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magellan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 05:09 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. You're right, sorry. It's both things, then. n/t |
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Kazak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 12:00 PM Response to Original message |
31. Oh boy, we're saved!!!? |
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Clark2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 12:07 PM Response to Original message |
35. Does it look like a bubble, too? |
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crispini (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 12:30 PM Response to Original message |
39. They're a lot cheaper than that |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 02:25 PM Response to Reply #39 |
46. 'The entire level price of under $12,000 will be a primary factor in the decision to drive Smart.' |
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Strelnikov_ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 02:51 PM Response to Original message |
47. Nice form factor for an EV |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 03:38 PM Response to Original message |
50. That's ugly. I'd be the laughing stock |
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Vilis Veritas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 05:20 PM Response to Original message |
53. My Jetta gets approx. 42mpg... |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 06:16 PM Response to Reply #53 |
58. I have a Beetle TDI |
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Vilis Veritas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 09:04 PM Response to Reply #58 |
59. It is the funnest car I have ever driven... |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 02:09 PM Response to Reply #59 |
71. HEMP . . ??? I understand Hemp used to be used to run autos??? |
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roody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 09:59 PM Response to Reply #58 |
60. I love my VW Golf TDI. |
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ShaneGR (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 10:33 PM Response to Original message |
61. Are helmets required?? |
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Initech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 10:38 PM Response to Original message |
62. My Altima gets 35 / 40 MPG. |
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dancing kali (485 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 10:52 PM Response to Original message |
64. Only 40? |
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CRF450 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 12:06 AM Response to Original message |
65. They need to bring out fuel efficient cars that actually looks appealing |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 01:03 AM Response to Original message |
66. Still a gas-guzzling auto? We need ELECTRIC CARS -- !!! |
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CRF450 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 01:13 AM Response to Reply #66 |
67. Why only accuse GM? |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 02:08 PM Response to Reply #67 |
69. Exactly --- all of Detroit has been working for the oil companies . . . |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 02:26 PM Response to Reply #69 |
75. Oh,that's not true |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 06:19 PM Response to Reply #75 |
78. Detroit has been doing the oil industry a favor with keeping mpg low ---- |
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CRF450 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 10:36 PM Response to Reply #78 |
81. I'm not denying that there in bed with the oil companies |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 11:05 PM Response to Reply #81 |
85. These are things we could have been doing all along and perhaps |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-14-07 04:17 AM Response to Reply #78 |
86. They might have been doing Big Oil a favor... |
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CRF450 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 05:36 PM Response to Reply #69 |
77. Econo cars had that kind of fuel milage compared to those now. |
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JCMach1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 02:55 AM Response to Original message |
68. Junk, buy a corolla... 3x the size and better mileage |
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EnviroBat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 02:09 PM Response to Original message |
70. But, but, but , but, it's CEEEUUUUUUUUUUUUUT! |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 02:11 PM Response to Original message |
72. Cute and the safety demo seems reasonable, but 40 mpg? |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 02:17 PM Response to Original message |
73. I get 27 mpg on the highway in my GM full-size |
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bpeale (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 06:23 PM Response to Original message |
79. the article i read said starting cost was about $11,000 |
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bpeale (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 06:24 PM Response to Original message |
80. smartcar is no death trap. it's built by mercedes. |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 10:42 PM Response to Original message |
83. They're not in the US yet? |
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OnionPatch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 10:52 PM Response to Original message |
84. I have a Yaris, too. |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-14-07 04:59 AM Response to Original message |
87. I'm in Japan now, and they've had eensy-teensy cars for years |
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Tommy_Carcetti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-14-07 07:34 AM Response to Original message |
88. It would have to get 60 mpg for me to consider it |
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Liberal In Texas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-14-07 08:17 AM Response to Original message |
90. I test drove a Smart Car few weeks ago. I was not impressed. |
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