The Mafia Ten Commandments Looks like Rudy can't even meet

[alfredo]

their standards, but seems OK to the Religious Right.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7086716.stm

Mafia's 'Ten Commandments' found

The commandments were found during the arrest of Mr Lo Piccolo
Italian police have found what they say is a "Ten Commandments"-style code of behaviour for Mafia members, at the hideout of a captured Mafia boss.
Prohibitions include frequenting bars and looking at friends' wives, while members are urged to treat their own wives with respect.

The list was found during the arrest of Salvatore Lo Piccolo, the reputed new boss of the Sicilian Mafia.

It is thought to have been drawn up as a "guide to being a good mobster".


The Mafia's "Ten Commandments"
1. No-one can present himself directly to another of our friends. There must be a third person to do it.
2. Never look at the wives of friends.
3. Never be seen with cops.
4. Don't go to pubs and clubs.
5. Always being available for Cosa Nostra is a duty - even if your wife's about to give birth.
6. Appointments must absolutely be respected.
7. Wives must be treated with respect.
8. When asked for any information, the answer must be the truth.
9. Money cannot be appropriated if it belongs to others or to other families.
10. People who can't be part of Cosa Nostra: anyone who has a close relative in the police, anyone with a two-timing relative in the family, anyone who behaves badly and doesn't hold to moral values.

[YOY]

1. I'm no Rudy fan, but cut the Italian = Mafia Shit NOW!

As an Italian American I find it really f***ing rude. We are not all in the Mafia and the mere insinuation to any hard working Italian/Sicilian Americans that we are in the Cosa Nostra/Mafia based purely on our genetic lineage is really beyond the pale.

:mad:

If you can't find real enough reasons to dislike Rudy beyond his heritage then you're not looking at all.

Now if you can provide some mob-Ghouliani links, that's different.

[alfredo]

2. No, I was talking about his moral character by saying he can't even

meet the moral code of a criminal organization.

Anyway, you don't have to be Italian to be part of their network. I used to work with some "businessmen" in Detroit and they took Christian, Jews, Atheists, Germans, and African Americans. It didn't matter to them as long as you brought money into the organization.

[YOY]

3. Made men are only Italian/Sicilian of proven lineage traditionally

Anyone can be part of their network but the made men are (with some exceptions) usually pure bloods. Made men are "untouchable" (ie you kill them with no permission from higher ups and you have a limited shelf life.) Rank and file "businessmen" will not warrant such come-uppance...at least not from the code.

I'm sorry but I still don't like the connection of Italian = Mafia even if it is unintentional. It's like saying Obama doesn't fly by the Crip's code...if they even have one. Or by pointing out that Hillary goes against one of her corporations' company statements.

[slor]

6. "...doesn't fly by the Crip's code...if they even have one"

Are you suggesting that African American gangs are not organized enough or decent enough to have a code? As if the mafia were/are somehow more decent because they have one. I am not serious btw, however you should watch your own generalizations as you warn others.

[YOY]

10. Do they have one? I'm honestly and curiously asking.

I can't find one on Wikipedea.

If they have one (and I am sure they are organized enough to have one...unless you are fishing for hate...you'll find none here) is if formal/traditional? The Crips have been around for nearly 40 years as far as I can tell. Old enough to have one, but I certainly can't find it at least in any internet available resource.

[slor]

13. As I said in my post...

I was not "serious", I merely wanted to point out that you were making generalizations just as you accused the original poster. I would venture to say the Crips probably do have some sort of code, but code or not, all of the "organizations" we are talking about are criminals, and they should probably be in jail.

[alfredo]

7. The Jewish mob worked in partnership with the Italian mob in suburban

Detroit. The center of one of the families was a catering business in a Synagog north of Detroit. Actually, they were a good catering service, even though it was a front. Another part of the network was an Armenian owned scrapyard in a western suburb, and the prostitution was controlled by a Detroit cop/pizza parlor owner. Still, it was two Italian men who coordinated everything. They always treated me with respect because I was a friend of the family that ran the numbers on the west side of Detroit. the matriarch was Stevie Wonder's god mother. Rev Franklin (Aretha's father) ran the numbers on the east side. Barry Gordy was a thug too.

IHOP near eight mile was where the day's activities were planned.

[YOY]

11. Yet for all the history there coupled by the infamy of "Murder Inc."

Few people would openly draw the connection between Jewish folks and organized crime as readily as they would for Italians.

[alfredo]

15. There's always a percentage of businessmen who cannot play fair.

All the crooks I knew were very conservative. They hated regulation for obvious reasons. The biggest crook I knew had a picture of him and Reagan over his desk. He had the corner on home spas. He could have dominated the market in this area, but he could not deal honestly with anyone. He went to prison and lost his business.

[Gman]

4. True but

from my Italian in-law family that live in the Northeast, they may not be in the mafia, but they likely know someone or know of someone that is.

[alfredo]

9. The HBO series Rome hinted at a possible beginning of the mob. It

centered around unemployed soldiers. They carried their military chain of command and code of conduct into their business life. Because there was little in the way of police force, they had to band together in militias to protect their neighborhoods. It probably served them well in times when the central government was in disarray.

[Book Lover]

19. The HBO series is Rome is *fiction*

and written for a network whose biggest show was about the mob.

[alfredo]

21. That's why I said hinted. They weren't overt in their depiction of the

militias as being criminal organizations. They came across as a logical means of keeping some type of order in the poor neighborhoods. They took care of people and commercial interests for a cut of the action. They replaced a absentee government.

[YOY]

12. and no one in my rather large Italian family knows someone who is

Most of us are doctors, lawyers, civil servants, and engineers.

[Book Lover]

20. Of course it's "likely," after all, they're Italian!

:sarcasm:

[htuttle]

5. Well, stereotypes aside, as far as looking for a mob-Ghouliani link...

...I don't think you need to look any farther than Bernard Kerik, eh?

[alfredo]

8. Pure sleaze.

[soothsayer]

14. i thought rudy's dad had mob connections, and that rudy

inducted kerik onto his team in a basement neeting where all the other team members kissed him.

[alfredo]

16. Of course that is what Kerik said, but he isn't a credible source.

[Bucky]

17. How do they reconcile #5 and #7?

Or #10 and the job they're doing?

[alfredo]

18. Redefine "respect" 10 is about cutting risk.

[kurth]

22. "10. People who can't be part of Cosa Nostra: anyone who doesn't hold to moral values"

The premier moral values organization in the world.