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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 03:09 PM
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with democrats like hoyer, feinstein and schumer, who needs republicans?
Edited on Tue Nov-06-07 03:12 PM by spanone
today two Democrats allowed a torture enabling judge to become attorney general

today a Democrat is trying to table a motion to impeach dick cheney

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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 03:15 PM
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1. You don't want a Democratic Party
You want a REAL left wing party, and you'll never get one.

The Democrats (as are the great majority of Americans) are as a whole, centrists. This is why Kucinich's standing in the polls is what it is: he's too left for American political tastes.

Face it: There IS NO great hunger for true left wing politics in this country. The Republicans are finding that out on the right side. America tends toward the center. Sorry. You'll just have to make do with the choir loft that is DU.
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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 03:22 PM
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3. Thanks for the inspiring words
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 03:23 PM
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4. impeaching a vice president who falsely took us to war is not Left wing
Edited on Tue Nov-06-07 03:28 PM by spanone
don't tell me what i want and i won't tell you what you want.

one more question, what brings you to DU?
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 03:39 PM
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8. I'm a one-a-them center-left Democrats
...Who happens to think impeachment is a waste of time, money and resources, is doomed to failure, and will rebound badly in 2008 against the Democrats.

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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 03:26 PM
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5. No. The money in the Democratic party is supporting "centrists"
The people in the Democratic party are lefties.

And "centrist" is code word for GOPer hiding behind a Democratic mask grabbing lobbyist money hand over fist.
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 03:36 PM
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7. Why isn't Kucinich in the top tier of candidates right now?
Because Democrats are NOT leftists.
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 03:56 PM
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15. When has the media talked about anyone but C/O?
And occasionally they talk about Edward's hair.

When the money in the party is spent on promoting DLCers/"centrists" and actively making sure that any leftie is left on his/her own, of course these DLCers/"centrists" can buy their way into political seats.

The voter is only given two choices, a GOPer or a "centrist" sneakily hiding behind a Democratic mask trying to deceive everyone that he is not a "centrist".


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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 04:05 PM
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17. How much has he raised on the internet?
Howard Dean will tell you that doesn't depend on media coverage.
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 04:17 PM
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18. Everything to you is all about money
DLCers get the most money so you are star struck and stuck tightly to their behinds.
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 04:50 PM
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26. How will you measure his popularity then?
If the media is stonewalling him, if he's polling in the single digits, if money doesn't mean anything, how do you know there's a big groundswell of popular support? I'm just trying to figure out what that's based on.
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Generator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 03:43 PM
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10. Bullshit fucking bullshit
Torture is NOT Democratic or American or Centrist or whatever bullshit label you are trying to convince yourself or someone else that it is.

You too are enabling pure evil with rationilzations.

Soon you and your fucking filthy scum of the earth ilk-that's what I think of anyone that supports torture not matter what they call themsleves can have DU-you can have your fucking hillary clinton world-good luck with that. You better pray you never do anything out of line or protest this government, because torture and everything else will be used on you and your precious children too.
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 03:46 PM
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13. I don't disagree.
But I think impeachment is a pipe dream.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 04:24 PM
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21. So it was back in the early 1970s
why don't you read some history
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 04:47 PM
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23. I know my history. I lived the early 70s.
And I can tell you an impeachment motion did not appear one day out of nowhere.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 04:49 PM
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25. This one didn't apear from nowhere either
then again I forgot, respect for the constitution is lefty politics
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 04:51 PM
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27. Uh, his own party voted to table it.
To me that says he was off the reservation on this one.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 03:48 PM
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14. You don't know what you're talking about
Either that, or you're purposefully being disingenuous. Perhaps both.

See, e.g.: The Progressive Majority: Why a Conservative America is a Myth

http://home.ourfuture.org/reports/20070612_theprogressi... /

Read the report (and the data) for yourself.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 04:20 PM
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19. Let me get this sraight
standing for the US Consitution is LEFTIST POLITICS? What would Jefferson and Hamilton say to THAT ONE!

And NOT wanting the US to BREAK the law is LEFTIST POLITICS?

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

You funny
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 04:52 PM
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28. Should Mukasey have been confirmed?
Should Cheney be impeached?

Party spectrums and labels aside, where do you stand on those two issues?
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 03:21 PM
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2. schumer, feinstein, hoyer, et al..
are fucking fascists. You think they're going to admit to that? They want the cloak of the dino party to keep their fucking charade going full steam ahead. They'll suck it for all it's worth.
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 03:40 PM
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9. I dare you to list all the Democrats you think are facsists...
I'll bet it's more than 50% of the caucus in both Houses.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 03:44 PM
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11. Fuck your
"dare".
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 03:44 PM
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12. You'd rather just bitch. I understand
That's all I ever see around here anymore.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 03:57 PM
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16. why come here if you are so unhappy?
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Hobarticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 04:48 PM
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24. OP, I could ask you the same question...
..and I have.
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WA98296 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 03:29 PM
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6. DLC, DLC, and DLC... they ARE republicans who work to steal the Dem. Party
Edited on Tue Nov-06-07 03:29 PM by WA98296
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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 04:20 PM
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20. Schumer, Feinstein and Hoyer: all DLC members
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sicksicksick_N_tired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 04:25 PM
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22. I am tiring of this meme! The Republican party under the puppet, G.Jr. have CAUSED all you bitch,..
,...about (unless, bitching AT democrats is your cause).

Maybe, a REPUBLICAN is worthy of your outrage.

Give that REPUBLICAN a call.

Maybe, your preacher is worthy of your outrage.

Give that PREACHER a call.

Otherwise, I would suggest studying the lot of an "enabler" and STRONGLY encourage identification of those who are being enabled.

I ASSURE YOU,...the Democratic party is NOT being enabled by you. *hint* *HINT*
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