Hoyer BS, this is a move of the DLC.

[WA98296]

I will NEVER support anyone (including HRC) who is part of the DLC

[Gman]

1. Now there's an incoherent rant

[JohnnyBoots]

2. How is that incoherent?

[TheDebbieDee]

3. To this I say, "Supreme Court"

The winner of next year's Presidential Election will probably get to fill at least 2 Supreme Court seats - if * allows the election to proceed and allows the winner to take office, that is.

[nadinbrzezinski]

5. Two points

there is a difference between the DLC and the Republicans in their view of law and USSC? No, not really, see Mukassey, see this tabled resolution

Now there is a difference between the progressive wing and the formerly moderate republican wing of the Democratic party.. but if you have a DLC candidate, not much will change

As you said, there will not be any elections

[Robbien]

7. Oh bull. The DLC would put up a stinker of a candidate for any judicial position

The DLC loved almost each and every GOPer candidate so far. The DLC will very likely vote IN FAVOR of torture and hand us the torturer in chief for the DoJ.

[Individualist]

9. DLC is the rot that has destroyed the party!

Let's just look at the cold, hard facts about the DLC and its record. The DLC has pushed, among other things, the war in Iraq and "free" trade policies, using bags of corporate money to buy enough Democratic votes to help Republicans make those policies a reality. They have chastised anyone who has opposed those policies as either unpatriotic or anti-business -- even as a majority of Americans now oppose the war in Iraq, oppose the DLC's business-written trade deals, and are sick of watching America's economy sold out to the highest corporate bidder. Additionally, in brazenly Orwellian fashion, the DLC has also called its extremist agenda "centrist," even though polls show the American public opposes most of their agenda, and supports much of the progressive agenda. http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0727-32.htm

The progressive movement has not just threatened this message monopoly -- it is undoing it. Through MoveOn, the rise of popular documentaries, blogs, think tanks, etc. It's not just that we talk about real values and innovative strategies. It's because we're talking, period, that the centrists feel threatened.

Hence the DLC's vicious attempts to discredit the movement. And that's what they want. They don't seek to win an argument over policy. They seek to destroy the credibility of their opponents and restore their message monopoly. http://www.openleft.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=721

This is why the DLC is dangerous. For all their claims of supposedly wanting to help Democrats, they employ people like Marshall Wittman who specifically try to undermine the Democratic Party, even if it means he has to publicly defecate out the most rank and easily-debunkable lies. They reguarly give credence to the right wing's agenda and its worst, most unsupportable lies. They are the real force that tries to make sure this country is a one party state and that Democrats never really challenge the Republicans in a serious way. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-sirota/why-the-dlc-is-so-dangero_b_13640.html

"The Democratic Leadership Council's agenda is indistinguishable from the Republican Neoconservative agenda," http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Kucinich_DLC_agenda_undistinguishable_from_Neocon_0813.html

DLC Watch, the wicked shall not escape justice http://dlcwatch.blogspot.com

Without a doubt, the DLC is the most fundamentalist organization within the caucus, the most ideologically rigid, and the most destructive to the progressive cause.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/5/24/1712/23448

These DLC types are amazing, they really are. Their pathology is unique; they all secretly worship the guilt-by-association tactics of Lee Atwater and Karl Rove, but unlike those two, not one of them has enough balls to take being thought of as the bad guy by the general public.
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/11275627/the_low_post_democrats_walk_themselves_to_the_gallows

[TheDebbieDee]

11. So, are you guys saying that you want the next President to be

another conservative repuke who may nominate another Pickering (racist) to fill that empty Supreme Court seat?

Do you realy want to take that chance?

[Robbien]

4. Hoyer is the DLC. He is also currently strongarming Dems

to vote for the enslavement of Peru by passing the UN-fair Trade pact.

Hoyer is a real stinker.

[rucky]

6. We'll know soon enough.

You'll see it in their AYEs.

[Individualist]

8. Absolutely! Hoyer is a DLC member.

"The Democratic Leadership Council's agenda is indistinguishable from the Republican Neoconservative agenda," http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Kucinich_DLC_agenda_undistinguishable_from_Neocon_0813.html

[Richard Steele]

10. The DLC is a Repub cancer within the Democratic party. nm

[Stinky The Clown]

12. Take your meds, dude

Man, there's a real adrenaline overload for a lotta people today. :eyes: