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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-01-07 10:12 PM Original message |
On the road to fascism |
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The Velveteen Ocelot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-01-07 10:15 PM Response to Original message |
1. "So this is how liberty dies, with thunderous applause." |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-01-07 10:17 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Yeah that line came as well |
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The Velveteen Ocelot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-01-07 10:21 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. You might say it sounded better in the original German... |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-01-07 10:22 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. I can already hear some folks round these parts |
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AndyTiedye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-01-07 10:53 PM Response to Reply #4 |
12. Godwin's Law Was Mooted by the Patriot Act |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-01-07 10:54 PM Response to Reply #12 |
13. Good point, after all it was heavily modeled on the Enabling Act |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 10:42 PM Response to Reply #13 |
105. Rove is the student of history.... |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 11:54 PM Response to Reply #105 |
109. Hitler's aproval hoverined in the low thirties iirc |
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marmar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-01-07 10:26 PM Response to Original message |
5. "but all this election frenzy... does not matter" |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-01-07 10:30 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. There are but the problem is that many folks are still in deep denial |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-01-07 10:38 PM Response to Original message |
7. kick |
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seemslikeadream (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-01-07 10:46 PM Response to Original message |
8. Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Furher, Ein Volk, |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-01-07 10:50 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. It's almost hipnotic, isn't it? |
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The Velveteen Ocelot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-01-07 11:01 PM Response to Reply #8 |
18. ... |
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ixion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-01-07 10:46 PM Response to Original message |
9. yeah, I'm not counting on it, either |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-01-07 10:50 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. Well this is the end of a thirty year process to dumb down the masses |
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BeHereNow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-01-07 11:01 PM Response to Reply #11 |
19. Actually darling, it goes back further than that. |
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seemslikeadream (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-01-07 10:56 PM Response to Original message |
14. “Nemesis: The Last Days of the American Republic.” |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-01-07 10:58 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. The empire will retrench, for economic reasons mostly |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 09:21 PM Response to Reply #14 |
102. I remember his warning to get a property outside the US |
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mark414 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-01-07 10:56 PM Response to Original message |
15. why would anyone amass this much power and then willingly give it up? |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-01-07 10:59 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. BINGO!!!!!!!!!! |
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BeHereNow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-01-07 11:04 PM Response to Reply #15 |
20. Precisely... and that is the point. |
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warren pease (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 03:08 PM Response to Reply #15 |
49. Exactly!... |
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AikidoSoul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 09:15 PM Response to Reply #49 |
100. What's to stop Bush and Cheney from canceling the elections? |
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warren pease (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 10:38 PM Response to Reply #100 |
104. Absolutely nothing... |
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BeHereNow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-01-07 11:09 PM Response to Original message |
21. Add the TSA request that travelers be required to have 72 hour advance permission |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 12:04 AM Response to Reply #21 |
25. If you know the mechanics it is easy to predict |
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Sugar Smack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-01-07 11:22 PM Response to Original message |
22. Please tell me what that means. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 12:01 AM Response to Reply #22 |
23. That means that you will have to ask permission to enter or leave |
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Sugar Smack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 12:03 AM Response to Reply #23 |
24. Thank you, Nadin. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 12:05 AM Response to Reply #24 |
26. Time is short |
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143tbone (468 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 05:10 PM Response to Reply #23 |
90. And it also means that if you have been |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 12:06 AM Response to Original message |
27. Oh and I forgot, but I can predict currency controls in a not so far future |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 12:06 AM Response to Original message |
28. what's the context of the border closings? anyone know? |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 12:08 AM Response to Reply #28 |
29. Well I made a reference to what they discussed |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 12:33 AM Response to Reply #29 |
34. wonder if i can paddle my kayak to a small carribean island... |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 12:35 AM Response to Reply #34 |
35. Well this is the time to act |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 12:10 AM Response to Original message |
30. and here is one of the articles on this |
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magellan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 12:23 AM Response to Original message |
31. Every time I start to feel alone on DU |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 12:26 AM Response to Reply #31 |
33. When the time comes, enjoy your family |
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bbgrunt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 12:23 AM Response to Original message |
32. k and r kand r k and r |
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Hieronymus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 12:40 AM Response to Original message |
36. Do you know where Malloy and Randi got that information? |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 12:42 AM Response to Reply #36 |
37. The paper, I posted one article |
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Hieronymus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 12:47 AM Response to Reply #37 |
38. Thanks.. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 01:21 AM Response to Original message |
39. Kucinich -- and return to paper ballots -- Hello, Pelosi!!!! |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 01:23 AM Response to Reply #39 |
40. Clean and transparent elections would be needed |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 01:35 AM Response to Reply #40 |
41. GAO Confrimed Key 2004 Stolen Election Findings ---- We're nuts!!!! |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 01:37 AM Response to Reply #41 |
42. Well unclean elections are a trademark of totalitarian systems |
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TheCentepedeShoes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 06:51 AM Response to Original message |
43. kicking for the early birds n/t |
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cigsandcoffee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 06:57 AM Response to Original message |
44. Fascism erects walls to keep people in, not out. |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 03:13 PM Response to Reply #44 |
50. Indeed, this is not your grandfather's fascism. |
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tom_paine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 03:43 PM Response to Reply #50 |
61. Why do you bother, Warren? It is no use and a waste of precious time to try. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 03:52 PM Response to Reply #61 |
65. Some folks have the incredible need to keep |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 04:54 PM Response to Reply #61 |
89. Oh it is for the other readers. |
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stimbox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 08:14 PM Response to Reply #50 |
96. It's Friendly Fascism |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 04:00 PM Response to Reply #44 |
70. The thing is, some of these folks are so heavily invested |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 07:07 AM Response to Original message |
45. *sigh* |
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ixion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 07:17 AM Response to Reply #45 |
46. it's not a fantasy, it is a very well-documented historical reality. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 07:23 AM Response to Reply #46 |
47. Look, I'm not saying that it isn't possible. I'm certainlyt not |
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143tbone (468 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 05:40 PM Response to Reply #47 |
91. You can't really say it's not true |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 01:11 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. Remember, for people who deny this reality |
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northernsoul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 03:16 PM Response to Reply #46 |
53. How is a prediction about next February "a very well-documented historical reality"? |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 03:18 PM Response to Reply #53 |
56. Google is your friend |
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canadianbeaver (929 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 03:34 PM Response to Reply #45 |
57. Sigh.....I sigh every time you reply....... |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 03:36 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. I hope those of us who are willing to |
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canadianbeaver (929 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 03:37 PM Response to Reply #58 |
59. I so hear you.......n/t |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 03:51 PM Response to Reply #57 |
63. please read the post I just wrote you. |
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canadianbeaver (929 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 04:09 PM Response to Reply #63 |
80. It sounds like your father was a bit prophetic then eh? |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 04:20 PM Response to Reply #80 |
84. My father was scarily prescient |
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northernsoul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 03:14 PM Response to Original message |
51. Can you elaborate on the border-sealing rumor? |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 03:17 PM Response to Reply #51 |
54. The articles are posted on the thread |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 03:18 PM Response to Reply #51 |
55. this is the equivalent of bush |
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canadianbeaver (929 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 03:40 PM Response to Reply #55 |
60. this is the equivalent of the masses |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 03:48 PM Response to Reply #60 |
62. Look, I work hard opposing |
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canadianbeaver (929 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 04:05 PM Response to Reply #62 |
75. I totally understand the concept of positive energies..... |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 04:12 PM Response to Reply #75 |
81. I can't explain Buddhist tenets about these things |
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canadianbeaver (929 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 04:28 PM Response to Reply #81 |
85. I truly can only say I believe in myself...and give no other |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 03:51 PM Response to Reply #60 |
64. Deleted message |
T.Ruth2power (371 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 03:16 PM Response to Original message |
52. Nature of the |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 03:56 PM Response to Original message |
66. I so hear you...except...wouldn't Gore running for Prez trump a lot of their plans? |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 03:57 PM Response to Reply #66 |
68. Gore is running? |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 04:09 PM Response to Reply #68 |
79. I hate to admit it doesn't look like he'll run at this point. It's so over, isn't it? So very over. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 04:12 PM Response to Reply #79 |
82. It's over only if we choose to give up |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 04:34 PM Response to Reply #82 |
87. Gore was my biggest hope because I don't see V for Vendetta happening anytime soon. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 06:23 PM Response to Reply #87 |
92. You welcome |
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tom_paine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 04:40 PM Response to Reply #82 |
88. That's the American Spirit! Not this new Imperial Amerikan Spirit, but the REAL DEAL! |
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tom_paine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 03:57 PM Response to Original message |
67. Keep saying it, nadin. And keep saying it and keep saying it... |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 03:59 PM Response to Reply #67 |
69. In some ways the paralells are to Rome |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 04:02 PM Response to Reply #69 |
71. Yes |
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tom_paine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 04:32 PM Response to Reply #69 |
86. Here is where we disagree a bit. I do not think the Bushies will be so overt |
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antigop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 04:02 PM Response to Original message |
72. Thank you, nad, for your continued attempts to wake people up. n/t |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 04:04 PM Response to Reply #72 |
74. You welcome |
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antigop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 04:05 PM Original message |
Oh, I won't forget. Unfortunately, there are too many who still don't get it. n/t |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 04:07 PM Response to Original message |
77. Well some of us will have to bear witness |
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antigop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 04:08 PM Response to Reply #77 |
78. I will take no glee in saying, "I told you so" to the deniers. n/.t |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 04:13 PM Response to Reply #78 |
83. We will not have to |
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Horse with no Name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 04:03 PM Response to Original message |
73. Great post, but let me add, I think the critical time defeating this monster has passed |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 04:05 PM Response to Reply #73 |
76. Why he ain't runniing |
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snappyturtle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 07:00 PM Response to Original message |
93. K&R I got home from a 10 day trip yesterday afternoon which |
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tnlefty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 07:59 PM Response to Original message |
94. I listened to the hour long Naomi Wolf interview on Randi's show |
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Generator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 08:08 PM Response to Original message |
95. This may be hyperbole |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 08:19 PM Response to Reply #95 |
97. the article is on this thread |
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NuttyFluffers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 08:42 PM Response to Original message |
98. nope, i'm pretty sure Bing Crosby and Bob Hope never did that movie... |
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IDemo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 08:51 PM Response to Original message |
99. Not just the borders, but internal travel as well may be at risk |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 11:55 PM Response to Reply #99 |
110. I referneced it, and people still refused to see what is in front |
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NoodleyAppendage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 09:17 PM Response to Original message |
101. So, then maybe it's time to join the Resistance! |
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Kurovski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 10:01 PM Response to Original message |
103. K&R. (nt) |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 10:51 PM Response to Original message |
106. It's a bad sign when a presidency has low numbers on job performance, |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 11:50 PM Response to Original message |
107. I believe you are correct.... |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 11:53 PM Response to Reply #107 |
108. You welcome and we are on a really bad road |
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