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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 11:37 AM
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Norman Podhoretz: Anyone Who Doesn’t Want To ‘Bomb Iran’ Is Appeasing ‘Hitler’
:crazy::crazy::crazy:

http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/30/podhoretz-zakaria-iran/

Norman Podhoretz: Anyone Who Doesn’t Want To ‘Bomb Iran’ Is Appeasing ‘Hitler’

On the PBS Newshour with Jim Lehrer last night, Commentary Magazine editor-at-large Norman Podhoretz, who is also a foreign policy adviser to Rudy Giuliani, repeated his claim that there is “only one terrible choice” left with Iran, which is to “bomb” their “facilities” and “retard” their nuclear program.

When Newsweek’s Fareed Zackaria asserted that deterrance was a viable option, Podhoretz repeatedly accused him of “an irresponsible complacency” that “is comparable to the denial in the early ’30s of the intentions of Hitler”:

PODHORETZ: First, I want to say that I think the attitude expressed by Fareed Zakaria represents an irresponsible complacency that I think is comparable to the denial in the early ’30s of the intentions of Hitler that led to what Churchill called an unnecessary war involving millions and millions of deaths that might have been averted if the West had acted early enough. <…>

Let me respond to that. You know, similar arguments were made about Hitler in the early ’30s, and it appalls me that this kind of attitude can still prevail after what we should have learned from the words of despots.

After Zakaria suggested that “we do not need to launch a third unilateral invasion” to “contain the problem of Iran,” Podhoretz reacted incredulously, muttering “God help us if we follow that counsel.”

Watch it at link~

Instead of resorting to “calling names” like Podhoretz, Zakaria responded to the substance of his argument, pointing out that “the idea that” Iran is “not going to be deterred by Israel’s 200 nuclear weapons, including a second strike capacity on submarines, is just fantasy.”

Zakaria then noted that “in the early 1980s, Norman Podhoretz and the neoconservatives” made similarly alarmist claims that proved to be completely wrong:

Look, in the early 1980s, Norman Podhoretz and the neoconservatives believed the Soviet Union was going to take over the world and Finlandize Europe. When Reagan started talking to the Soviets, started talking to Gorbachev, Mr. Podhoretz excoriated him, called it the “Reagan road to detente” and such.

It turned out he was wrong. It turned out that the Soviets were not that powerful, and that history was on our side
, and that things were going to work out as long as we kept our cool.

Podhoretz would like nothing better than to bomb Iran, even though he believes it may “unleash a wave of anti-Americanism all over the world.” Furthermore, he is “certain” President Bush will do it before he leaves office, to which he says “thank God.”

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woodsprite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 11:38 AM
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1. From my seat, it looks like the exact opposite is true. n/t
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 11:40 AM
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2. but-- but I thought Saddam Hussein was the Hitler of the middle east....
Oops, looks like we invaded the wrong country? Too bad about all those innocent people the U.S. military murdered? :shrug:
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 11:40 AM
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3. Ironically, Podhoretz is so very similar to the Propagandists and Liars who served Hitler.
As a Jew myself, I can say there is nothing so odioud as watching Jews like Podhoretz so easily lend themselves to the very same forces which murdered six million Jews, and to follow in the footsteps of the liars and enablers who supplied the rationales for doing so.

As always, Bushie "irony" goes well beyond that category into shrieking Orwellian madness.
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 11:42 AM
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4. Deleted
Edited on Tue Oct-30-07 11:44 AM by no_hypocrisy
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 11:42 AM
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5. Comforting to know this fuck is advising Rudy
Wait - it's that other thing - Horrifying.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 11:42 AM
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6. We need to start locking up nut jobs like Podhoretz! This guy is off the wall...
Just like many of these other neocons....
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unpossibles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 11:43 AM
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7. oy
not that old saw again. It's even funnier/sadder since the Republicans were the ones appeasing Hitler - the real Hitler.
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me9399 Donating Member (55 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 11:43 AM
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8. what are the odds ?
that Bush and Cheney will use a nuke against the Iranians and what are the odds that Russia and China will launch nukes in retaliation?

:scared: :nuke: :scared:
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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 11:46 AM
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9. Hey Norman ... it's a little late for Hitler to be appeased.
And as long as we're talking about similarities to Hitler ... you may want to take a look around. Just saying.
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DinahMoeHum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 11:49 AM
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10. Norman and his idiot bastard son John would have served Hitler better.
AFAIC, they are a disgrace to the Jews.

:evilfrown:
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DefenseLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 11:50 AM
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11. Damn that Hitler gets around
It is tough to pin down such an active 120 year old. We may have to invade 5 or 6 more places if we hope to stop him.
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 11:55 AM
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12. Iran poses no threat to the U.S., yet Podheretz favors "unleashing a wave of anti-Americanism
all over the world."

Why is he supporting waves of anti-Americanism for something not in the U.S. national interest?
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laststeamtrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 11:57 AM
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13. Podhoretz is a dangerous crank.
It shows how far right things are over in the Giuliani camp when Fareed Zakaria(!) takes the anti-war position.

I'm very tired of it always being Munich '38. Isn't it time to update the specious historical parallel file?
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Bonhomme Richard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 12:02 PM
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14. I have to wonder where all his hate came from.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 12:02 PM
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15. That man is walking, breathing evil.
I heard him on an NPR interview recently and nearly wrecked the car while listening. It's hard to believe that someone like him could exist, let alone be given an audience.
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 12:04 PM
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16. Podhoretz is Guilliani's advisor.
You can guess what a Guilliani Presidency holds.
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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 12:32 PM
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19. This needs to be shouted from the rooftops, so the
sheep planning on voting for him because he seems like such a "nice, middle-of-the-road kind of guy who will be tough when he needs to be", actually know who will be found behind the curtain, working the levers and knobs...
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Wiley50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 12:06 PM
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17. It therefore must follow that those who want to bomb Iran are appeasing Zionists n/t
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 12:23 PM
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18. Podhoretz, another signer of the PNAC agenda
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