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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 07:30 PM
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"I had sex with Larry Craig"
http://wonkette.com/politics/larry-craig-scandal/exclus...

:rofl:



Weve been having loads of fun with gay restroom goblin Larry Craig over the past couple of months, havent we? What weve been missing, though, is an on-the-record account from a source willing to come forward and tell what its like to have an actual romantic liaison with the Idaho Republican. Meet David Phillips, a local IT geek and bear-about-town.

Phillips was recently in a bar minding his own business when he heard Craigs voice on the television. I went pale and nearly vomited, Phillips says. It was the man he remembered from one of his creepiest sexual encounters twenty years earlier. After a truncated meal I went back to my hotel room and began unwinding and jotting down the memories that the voice had opened. I recalled The Follies, the furtive groping and pawing there, the odd following of this man in my car.. Crap!

Phillips embarrassing, Santorum-laced tale follows after the jump.

It was late in the Spring of 1987, and Phillips was a graduate student at George Mason University. One of my favorite hangouts was The Follies, Phillips explains, referring to the notorious and now-closed go-go boy bar La Cage aux Follies on Capitol Hill. There were so many closeted neocons who trolled for cock and ass there, particularly cock and ass on younger men: Terry Dolan, Jon Hinson, and a bunch of other men who seemed to run in a close and secretive group. I had sex with some of them at The Follies, and I even went home with a couple of them at different times, at least based on smooth talk and their attraction to a 20-something geek. One of them I would later recognize as Larry Craig.


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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 07:32 PM
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1. Larry Craig was a BASTARD to that child, too! nt
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-26-07 03:11 AM
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13. child?
The article doesn't say how old the guy was, but from the pic, he's well into his 40s, at least. So 20 years ago, he was well into his 20s, and hanging out at, evidently, a gay hustler bar in DC.

Don't make me defend Craig, but this guy was far from "a child".
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-26-07 05:58 AM
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14. He was 20 and clueless at the time. As he himself noted:
Edited on Fri Oct-26-07 06:03 AM by MADem
When I next heard that voice two months ago, David concludes, my mind went right back to that encounter, leaving me feeling cold and used all over again. I wish I hadnt been a screwed-up kid at the time and had had the presence of mind to tell him to keep the money he shoved at me like I was part of the trade common to The Follies.

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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-27-07 01:06 AM
Response to Reply #14
62. So you think 20-year olds
are not capable of informed consent?
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-27-07 01:08 PM
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65. Look, of COURSE he was capable of 'informed consent.'
But if you read the entire recounting by this gentleman, it is plain that he was a clueless young man who was treated like shit by Larry in The Closet.

There's just no NEED to treat anyone like that.

It says a lot about what that bastard is actually like, when he's not playing the avuncular, grandfatherly type to Matt Lauer's softball queries.
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Th1onein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-26-07 08:07 AM
Response to Reply #13
21. If you think 20 is not a child, you must have no children.
20 and most of the 20's, themselves, you don't have a mature person. You have a KID. Being of legal drinking age does not make a person mature. Craig preys on young boys, and apparently treats them like shit once he's done with them. He's a sick bastard.
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MLFerrell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-26-07 12:25 PM
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36. 20 is not a child... 20 is a dumbass young person who thinks that he or she knows everything.
Edited on Fri Oct-26-07 12:28 PM by MLFerrell
And I say that as a responsible, mature, 25 year old adult.

:)
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-26-07 04:48 PM
Response to Reply #21
42. Nonetheless
I understand that people are trying to make Craig into a child molester.

I think that's wrong... a 20 year old is responsible for his own sexual decisions.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-27-07 01:12 PM
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66. Where the fuck are you getting THAT idea? The guy is more like a
chickenhawk...in the pre-Bush meaning of the word. He preys on the young and naive.

I think your "understanding" is in error.

http://www.answers.com/topic/chickenhawk-sexuality
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-28-07 03:08 AM
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73. When people refer to him as a "child"
I believe the intent is to portray Craig as a child molester.

A 20 year old is not a child - that's just ridiculous.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-28-07 10:24 AM
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75. See post 71. nt
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-28-07 12:37 PM
Response to Reply #75
76. I did
and the fact remains, he's not a child, and any 20-year old who's hanging out in a hustler bar and going home with older, strange men is probably not "naive".
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-28-07 12:50 PM
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77. Well, I read his account, and I believe him. YMV. NT
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-28-07 01:11 PM
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78. I never said I don't believe his account
I said he's not a child, and probably wasn't nearly as naive as you think.

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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-28-07 02:12 PM
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79. Well, he speaks to his own naivete in his account. That was my point. NT
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Toasterlad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-26-07 08:32 PM
Response to Reply #21
49. Spare Me Your Nonsense.
If I fuck your 20 year old son, I am not a child molester. And if you are still thinking of your 20 year old son as a child, you need to seriously cut the fucking apron strings, or he will be living in your basement until the day you die.

More importantly, please stop equating homosexuals with pedophiles. Your issues about sex are YOUR issues, not the country's. There has been no evidence at ALL linking Craig to children. Your sick and twisted views of homosexual sex to the contrary, Craig is not a pedophile, and he didn't "prey" on anyone. As for the guy in the OP feeling "used", A) IF he truly feels that way, it's his own fault, but more likely B) he's indulging in some histrionics to make his story more appealing. In any case, he was completely responsible for his own actions at the time, and was not "used" by anybody.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-27-07 01:05 AM
Response to Reply #49
61. Thank you!
The subtext here is that gay people are child molesters. It's nonsensical.

A 20 year old is not a child.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-27-07 01:17 PM
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68. The subtext here is NOT that. That's in YOUR head. You keep banging that drum. NT
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-27-07 01:17 PM
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67. Where is everyone getting this child molester shit?
He is a mean older man taking advantage of a much younger and NAIVE young fellow.

If you fuck ANYONE's twenty year old son, I would hope that you'd be kind to him. Not throw him into the street when you're done.

Why are you equating Craig's being a bastard to a naive lad to child molestation? That's the furthest thing from my mind. I think he's just a shithead, a mean, rotten shithead. Unkind. Rude. Cruel. But that's as far as it goes.
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Toasterlad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-27-07 03:06 PM
Response to Reply #67
70. I Was Responding to a Post By Th1onein
Edited on Sat Oct-27-07 03:12 PM by Toasterlad
...who claimed that 20 year olds were children, and that Craig "preyed" on this 20 year old. People who prey on children are called what?

Now maybe you can understand where this "child molester shit" is coming from. If that example is not clear enough for you, do a search for "Larry Craig molester". You'll find lots and lots of posts from people with a like mind to TH1onein.

BTW, I don't agree with YOUR argument either. You have only this guy's story for what happened, and in your eagerness to throw Craig off the cliff (which, admittedly, I can understand), you are taking everything he says as gospel. I have known many 20 year old gay men (indeed, I was one myself, once) and I can assure you that very few of them were as naive and trusting as this man is claiming to have been. It's quite enough that Craig is a hypocritical, self-loathing asshole. I don't need hearsay from 20 years ago about how he made some guy feel bad to despise him.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-27-07 04:09 PM
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71. Well, you'll have to blame me to start, because I called the kid a child, I suppose
But I was using the term because his level of sophistication when this incident took place was plainly NIL, as he himself said in his recounting of it. I didn't mean to aver that he was underaged, or jail bait, or anything of the sort.

That said, I do think this guy is telling the truth, even if you don't. Craig has more than a bit of the 'martinet' about him--I've worked around guys like that, who are mean, snippy shitheads.

FWIW, I know a few kids in their 20s who have the sophistication of 16 year olds. And I know 16 year olds who are wise beyond their years. It's not unreasonable to believe that this kid was a late bloomer. That sort of individual, who can be pushed around and intimidated, would be just the ticket for someone who's a closeted bully, like Craig seems to be.
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Rick Myers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 07:33 PM
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2. Oh Jeebus!!!!
BIOHAZARD indeed!!! Yikes!!!
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 07:36 PM
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3. Ewwwwwww! Apart from carpet burn, what did Larry get out of that?
:hide:

I like his hair though.
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DaveJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 07:43 PM
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4. Sure he looked a lot different 20 years ago
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Wcross Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 08:25 PM
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5. People look different when the wear a good suit.
He must have decided to shave also! :evilfrown:
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-26-07 08:06 AM
Response to Reply #3
20. He has a look that a lot of guys go for.
There's a lid for every pot.
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-26-07 09:38 AM
Response to Reply #3
26. He's a Bear...big, hairy, and handsome
to this straight, married woman. :)
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-26-07 09:59 AM
Response to Reply #26
31. I can't say how much I adore that hetero people have adopted "bear" terminology.
:-)
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-26-07 02:24 PM
Response to Reply #26
39. I always thought the Bears were cute too.
:blush:
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-26-07 10:53 PM
Response to Reply #26
60. Why MelissaB, I do declare!
I had NO idea! :D
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Toasterlad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-26-07 08:34 PM
Response to Reply #3
50. Ewww! A Man With His Shirt Off! Gross! I'm TOTALLY Not Gay!
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libodem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 11:58 PM
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6. Anyone click on
the Santorum comment? :rofl:
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Kool Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-26-07 01:09 AM
Response to Reply #6
7. I just did.
:spray: :spank:
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-26-07 01:47 AM
Response to Reply #7
11. I think I'm afraid to. If this story doesn't get Craig

OUT of Congress, I don't know what will.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-26-07 08:05 AM
Response to Reply #11
19. I want him to hang on in Congress to the bitter end
oops, that doesn't sound quite right now, does it?

But, I want him there as a constant reminder of Republican hypocrisy. I think it would kill the fundie turnout in Idaho.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-26-07 08:22 PM
Response to Reply #19
46. We wish...Aren't they into that
whole hypocricy thing?
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Toasterlad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-26-07 08:37 PM
Response to Reply #6
51. That Was Started in Dan Savage's Column
And has gained worldwide usage. Try googling Santorum sometime. It's hilarious.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-26-07 01:11 AM
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8. love the moustache
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-26-07 01:14 AM
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9. What a BEAR!!
:loveya: :D

I wonder if Larry's tastes have changed from geek to bear? :D


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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-26-07 10:31 AM
Response to Reply #9
35. Who actually thought stories of Larry Craig's escapades wouldn't involve Bears?
:shrug:

OMG....I couldn't stop laughing at the story and image of the guy that has come forward....Pass the popcorn...I'm sure there are many, many more to come....

:popcorn:
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-26-07 08:25 PM
Response to Reply #9
48. Am I the only one who doesn't get the bear references? Is my life too sheltered?
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Toasterlad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-26-07 08:40 PM
Response to Reply #48
52. Nope. Just Straight.
For future reference, a "bear" is a hairy, usually heavy-set man. Gay bears are often into leather, tattoos, and motorcycles. Gay guys into bears are referred to as "cubs", and may or may not be bears themselves. Thin hairy men are sometimes referred to as "otters". Bears with gray or silver hair are referred to as "polar bears". That last one is my absolute favorite.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-26-07 09:39 PM
Response to Reply #52
56. Well, now I know--thanks!
:-)
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-27-07 01:25 PM
Response to Reply #52
69. DU is a wealth of information!!! What an interesting way to categorize! NT
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-26-07 01:31 AM
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10. Well, according to the folks at rumor control . .
Edited on Fri Oct-26-07 01:32 AM by Major Hogwash
There's about another dozen guys out there that have similar stories.

I wonder how the Republicans will react if one of them goes public every month for the next year?

This is going to cost them several seats in the House in 2008.


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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-26-07 03:02 AM
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12. Many people have said that they feel sorry for Craig's wife.
I think that she knew all along & that they had an arrangement from the start of the
Marriage.He would adopt her children & she would be taken care of. He could do what he wanted
to do as long as he made sure not to get caught doing it. He finally got caught & was afraid to tell
her about it. He mistakenly thought that he got away with his actions again. She decided to stick with the bargain in spite of his carelessness. The grown children most likely know about him by now, unless they are in delusional denial.
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Frank Cannon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-26-07 06:10 AM
Response to Reply #12
15. Her comments of late seem to support your theory
She never has taken up for her husband in this. She pretty much just expresses outrage that this incident made it into the newspapers.
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-26-07 08:25 PM
Response to Reply #12
47. Wait, the kids aren't his? He adopted her kids?

I thought they had the kids together. If not, sounds like he married himself a beard.
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Toasterlad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-26-07 08:43 PM
Response to Reply #47
53. Yes, That's Exactly What He Did.
I have no proof, of course, but it seems pretty obvious to me that Craig's was a marriage of convenience, and that his wife knew exactly what she was getting into. And no, they're not his biological children.
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-26-07 09:05 PM
Response to Reply #53
55. Very interesting. I've never heard media mention

that she had been married before and that their children were not his biological children, which is an interesting fact when a man has been arrested for soliciting sex from another man. It looks very much like a marriage of convenience when you put those facts together. I'll bet folks in Idaho can figure that out now, too.

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Garbo 2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-27-07 04:53 PM
Response to Reply #55
72. Craig married her a year after a Congressional page scandal. He himself wasn't publically implicated
in the scandal, but nevertheless issued a public statement denying involvement. Which some thought was odd. A year later he was married.

See page scandal portion of this article: http://www.idahostatesman.com/localnews/story/143801.ht...

Craig adopted his wife's kids. ABC on their brushes with the law: http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=3573171&page=1
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-27-07 06:16 AM
Response to Reply #12
64. BINGO!
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Raejeanowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-26-07 08:33 AM
Response to Reply #10
24. They Need To Round Them Up
Bring them all down to the Capitol to confront Craig. Let him continue to deny it.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-26-07 10:18 PM
Response to Reply #10
59. Oh, oh...I think I sense another gay porn video in the making...
"Sex Pigs of the Senate!"

Follow the adventures of a lascivious lawmaker as he expounds upon his wide stance on the issues. Whether he's promoting prayer in the classroom, or on his knees praying in the tearoom, too much is never enough.

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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-26-07 07:46 AM
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16. well . . . there's some images I could have done without . . . n/t
.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-26-07 08:01 AM
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17. Craig Sure Ain't The Wine And Candles Type
Edited on Fri Oct-26-07 08:01 AM by DemocratSinceBirth
DSB
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-26-07 08:03 AM
Response to Reply #17
18. Depends on what you do with the candles, I suspect.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-26-07 08:10 AM
Response to Reply #18
22. I Do Not Want To Go There
DSB
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-26-07 10:00 AM
Response to Reply #18
32. Oh my oh my mondo joe, that's a potential Duzy fer sure...
Edited on Fri Oct-26-07 10:00 AM by Virginia Dare
:spray:
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racaulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-26-07 02:11 PM
Response to Reply #18
37. HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!
Best. Reply. Ever.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-26-07 08:15 AM
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23. "It was a clumsy and unremarkable fuck"
:rofl:

Why am I not surprised?

:rofl:
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racaulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-26-07 09:51 AM
Response to Reply #23
27. It's ironic that we could use those exact words to describe Craig today, huh?
:rofl:
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-26-07 08:34 AM
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25. OMG, what the hell is on his face?!?
:scared:
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-26-07 02:22 PM
Response to Reply #25
38. Handles.
:evilgrin:
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-26-07 08:20 PM
Response to Reply #38
45. Hah!
:spank:
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racaulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-26-07 09:53 AM
Response to Original message
28. There are two things that I hope about this story:
1. That it is real, not satire.

2. That it gains some traction.

And the Larry Craig implosion just keeps getting better and better. :rofl:
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-26-07 09:56 AM
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29. This is too much like gossip- if not actually gossip.
There is something wrong with this kind of thing.
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-26-07 09:58 AM
Response to Reply #29
30. There is something very wrong. I usualy like to have a cocktail with my gossip,
but all I have now is coffee.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-26-07 10:02 PM
Response to Reply #30
58. You can always Irish it up.
Too early? do what I do...change your clock from AM to PM.

Now you're good to go!
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-26-07 10:05 AM
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33. "I did not have diaper sex with that man" - Sen. David Vitter (R)
Edited on Fri Oct-26-07 10:07 AM by SpiralHawk
"I am a good Christian republicon (smirk, smirk, smirk) not like that Total republicon Deviant Larry "I (smirk) love (smirk) my wife" Craig, and thus I have diaper sex only with prostitutes. So just shut up and sit down. Smirk."

- Sen. David Vitter (R)




Republicon Senator Vitter's favored prostitute for good, old-fashioned republicon diaper sex.
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-26-07 10:29 AM
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34. BioHazard tat...
Wonder if the Senator has any reaction to that nugget of information...
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-26-07 02:27 PM
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40. Is that a blue elephant tattoo I see??
;)
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-26-07 04:36 PM
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41. "Just when you thought Cocktober was over ..."
Best comment on that thread! :rofl:
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-26-07 06:46 PM
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43. How could you type those words????????????? nm
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Maestro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-26-07 08:18 PM
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44. I'm laughing to type a response.
REalll.kfa,ndakldfyj tttttg ba,s df :rofl:
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d_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-26-07 08:53 PM
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54. ioerop23-0weo112
!!!!!!!!1
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-26-07 09:44 PM
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57. BUT LARRY CRAIG ISN'T GAY!!!!!
so he says!
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Evoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-27-07 03:45 AM
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63. "I had sex with Larry Craig"
I didn't, but I did stay at a holiday inn express once.
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-28-07 08:07 AM
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74. Hope he was wearing a seat protector.
;)
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