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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 12:51 PM
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FBI In An "Embarrassment For Bush" Has Been "Investigating Torture" For 2 Years (LAT)
National News

The U.S. is concerned that evidence obtained from CIA interrogations will be inadmissible at war-crimes tribunals.

By Josh Meyer, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer
October 21, 2007

WASHINGTON -- The FBI is quietly reconstructing the cases against Khalid Shaikh Mohammed and 14 other accused Al Qaeda leaders being held at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, spurred in part by U.S. concerns that years of CIA interrogation have yielded evidence that is inadmissible or too controversial to present at their upcoming war crimes tribunals, government officials familiar with the probes said.

The process is an embarrassment for the Bush administration, which for years held the men incommunicado overseas and allowed the CIA to use coercive means to extract information from them that would not be admissible in a U.S. court of law -- and might not be allowed in their military commissions, some former officials and legal experts said. Even if the information from the CIA interrogations is allowed, they said, it would probably risk focusing the trials on the actions of the agency and not the accused.

The FBI investigations, involving as many as 300 agents and analysts in a "Guantanamo task force," have been underway for as long as two years. They were requested by the Defense Department shortly after legal rulings indicated that Mohammed -- the self-proclaimed mastermind of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks -- and the other Al Qaeda suspects probably would win some form of trial in which evidence would have to be presented, according to senior federal law enforcement officials.

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By mid-2002, several former agents and senior bureau officials said, they had begun complaining that the CIA-run interrogation program amounted to torture and was going to create significant problems down the road — particularly if the Bush administration was ever forced to allow the Al Qaeda suspects to face their accusers in court.

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more at:
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-terror21oct21,0,3798048,full.story?coll=la-home-center
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 12:53 PM
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1. an embarrassment? since when is crime embarrassing?
turn these tribunals around....it's bu$h who needs to be tried
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 01:11 PM
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2. that's why the agents were getting their own insurance
I just don't know why they didn't quit rather than follow the orders to torture.

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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 01:13 PM
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3. This administration needs to face true, fair justice. We will always look bad as a nation
unless justice is served.
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 01:52 PM
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4. didn't they get the memo? He exempted himself from prosecution-
and he's the decider-

:shrug:
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 03:24 PM
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5. If that fugging war criminal has not been embarrassed
yet, he is incapable of shame. That imaginary friend in his head keeps telling him he's the chosen one.
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 03:28 PM
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6. Does Bush have the capacity to be embarrassed?
You have to know something is wrong in order to be embarrassed about it if found out, caught, etc.

No, I don't think Bush is embarrassed. Rather, I'd bet he is pissed that someone is messing with his self-anointed Decider status.

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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 03:34 PM
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7. no.
Shame & embarassment are beyond him. He is incapable of feeling empathy for anyone unless he personally has felt the pain he is causing. Even then he would probably cry out "Why Me?". . .
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 03:39 PM
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8. You know it.
He is a small, mean-spirited man with no capacity for empathy and compassion. He says what he THINKS an empathetic and compassionate person would say, but there is no feeling in it. You can tell because every time he tries to sound that way, he goes into scatological spasms of "uh uh uh, um, uh, uh, uh".

It is only when he is revealing his true nature, that of an uncaring, hate mongering asshole, that he can string more than two words together without stumbling over them.

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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 03:46 PM
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9. If the Dems in Congress would have siezed the Hard Drives
of those "missing" E-mails, perhaps documentation of Busholini's many Crimes would have forced the Impeachment of this Silver Spoon Sociopath.
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 03:51 PM
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10. Unfortunately, the Dems are pre-occupied with apologizing for
telling the truth (on rare occasions), and kowtowing to the Repukes to bother with such things as actually finding evidence of Bush's crimes.

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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 05:33 PM
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11. Golly, the dirty fucking hippies are right again
Besides being incredibly illegal, torture doesn't elicit reliable information, whatever someone does say is inadmissible, and daggone it, tends to focus any trial on methods instead of the defendant's alleged wrongdoing. Just like we've been telling this sadistic, outlaw administration for years.

Well, nobody could have foreseen any of this, so the pinheads of the Bush administration have to be excused. Right?
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