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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 11:13 PM
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TARGET KEY INDIVIDUALS
Edited on Mon Oct-15-07 11:33 PM by nadinbrzezinski
listening to the John Ellion Show, and his description on Randi Rhodes does strike as a targeted attack

She had noting of value

She wore her track suit and her dog

No purse, no money, no jewelry

She will be off the air for a week at least, until she recovers

TARGET KEY INDIVIDUALS

Oh and Elliot added a couple things

From management, she lost some teeth.

This was a serous hit folks... and he also has the sense that due to the nature, it may very well be political

Godamnit I was going to go to Oberman, but I'm staying, it is a repeat, but an important repeat... probably a chilling repeat
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 11:15 PM
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1. What goes around comes around.

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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 11:17 PM
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3. Of course but I cannot do much more than conclude that
this was political
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 11:16 PM
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2. Same thing happened to one of the moderate US Supreme Court justices
too. Souter is the one who was so upset at the Bush v. Gore ruling, iirc, that he threatened to resign.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/05/01/national/main...



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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 11:18 PM
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5. We are entering a very dangrous stage
for the moment, I'll go tomorrow and send her a get well card

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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 11:18 PM
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4. Is there any evidence this was political?
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Elspeth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 11:22 PM
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6. Details are sketchy at the moment, but nothing of monetary value was taken
We'll hopefully get more details in the next few days.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 11:34 PM
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7. If anybody will cover more details it will be Elliot and Malloy tomorrow
when he gets on the air
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 01:08 AM
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16. Evidence? We don't need no stinking evidence.
Conspiracy theories are so much more fun. One question that people should ask: Why would anyone in the gov't or wherever, target Randi Rhoads. She's hardly politically important, and she reaches but a small audience. Folks might also keep in mind that being mugged is not that unusal an occurance, sadly.
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Cetacea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 01:24 AM
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27. Randi hangs with former Presidents,senators,etc...
Considering the caliber of guests she hosts, a political hit on Randi would certainly be enough to create a Chilling Effect among the pols that frequent her show, not to mention the thousands that may be reading DU...

It is impossible to know what the circumstances are at this time, but to say that she is not important is debatable.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 01:26 AM
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29. and also remember she has taken on powerful forces
blackwater USA anyone?
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Cetacea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 01:34 AM
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30. Blackwater and many others.
But yah, Blackwater being the most recent...
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BelgianMadCow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 02:09 AM
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35. Caci, ex Carlyle. For people in the know. n/t
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 03:09 AM
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 12:09 AM
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8. kick
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Mist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 12:27 AM
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9. Very upsetting to hear--I'd wondered why she wasn't on today. It does
sound political. She needs a bodyguard or something. Thanks for posting this.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 12:33 AM
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10. Yes, I thought it deserved the frame
but it will not only be her.

Randi will need them, but so will every other liberal radio host if this was political

And for all our sakes, I hope it wasn't...

Elliot also used the frame
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 12:50 AM
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11. These are hard threads to hit the recommend button for
In spite of the fact that these are true and recommendable things you are saying, my finger just doesn't want to do it, same for the thread that said she got mugged.

But it is almost inarguable: so so much from the VIPR Teams and Behavior Detection Officers to the trickle-down affects now resulting in financial officers getting blatantly shot in the head and now THIS.

Middle Phase of the Transition, I'd say overall we are 40% of the way complete now. Tyranny is taking a defintive shape.

And hunt around to see what Naomi Wolf is hearing anecdotally about Bushie reprisal against regular people, if you haven't already. Oh yes, they have just about finished reducing the Ruling Class to their will, now comes the daily tyranny for the rest of us.

1937. It's 1937. Randi is a taste of coming Kristallnachts, though I suspect ours will not happen all in one day.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 01:01 AM
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12. We still have time, time it is short, but we still have time
Edited on Tue Oct-16-07 01:02 AM by nadinbrzezinski
only if more people would see what is in front of their lying eyes

On edit, it is hard to give these things their apropriate name by the way

It is chilling
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 01:07 AM
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15. Political hate crimes?
I'm jumping to conclusions like crazy. I have no idea what happened to Randi. But the general sentiment I've been watching lends itself to posting this stuff.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 01:10 AM
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17. For our collective sakes I do hope it is random
and that she gets better, and gets back in the fight.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 01:21 AM
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25. We really do still need to wait and confirm these things, to hear what Randi has to say
And it is still possible this was random "wilding" stuff. It does happen.

But for now, it stinks to high heaven, especially the way they targeted her mouth and teeth, especially since they knew (if they were cowardly Freepers or Protest Warrior-types) she just had dental work.

And as I said in another thread, nothing says "Shut the fuck up you Liberal bitch!" quite like repeated teeth-smashing blows to the face. It sounds like a message a Nazi or a Bushie would leave.

Now I'm REALLY off to bed.

Goodnight, nadin. :hi:
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 01:23 AM
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26. Good night
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 01:07 AM
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14. This is not even close to 1937 Germany. It's not even close to 1919 Germany.
When someone like Kucinich is rifle-butted in the head, shot, and dumped in a river by gov't-organized gangs, then I'll say we have a similar level of reactionary practices to Germany. Right now what we have is different, but still very dangerous.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 01:12 AM
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18. I've already explained this a million times, so here's the short version
Edited on Tue Oct-16-07 01:14 AM by tom_paine
IT WON'T LOOK LIKE IT DID IN IT'S PREVIOUS DISCREDITED FORMS. REBRANDING IS A MARKETING IMPERATIVE.

TOTALITARIANISM IS NOT MEASURED BY NUMBERS OF DEATHS BUT BY HOW IT KILLS.

AMERICAN TOTALITARIANISM IN THE 21ST CENTURY, BY VIRTUE OF TECHNOLOGICAL AND PSYCHOLOGICAL PROGRESS, WILL BE MUCH LESS VIOLENT, AT LEAST IN THE BEGINNING. I WOULD NOT EXPECT WHOLSALE SLAUGHTER OF ENEMIES BECAUSE THAT WOULD MAKE PEOPLE LIKE YOU EVEN, SIT UP AND TAKE NOTICE.

BUT IT NEEDS TO CAMOFLAUGE ITSELF. IT ALWAYS NEEDS TO CAMOFLAUGE ITSELF.

http://evans-experientialism.freewebspace.com/jaspers02...

OH, AND BY THE WAY, DAY-TO-DAY LIFE IN 1937 NAZI GERMANY WAS NOT QUITE AS ACROSS-THE-BOARD-MURDEROUSLY-INSANE AS YOU THINK. DON'T BELIEVE ME? READ THIS AND LEARN.

http://www.amazon.com/Will-Bear-Witness-1933-1941-Paper...


Enough! Good night.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 01:14 AM
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 03:24 AM
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39. you are correct.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 01:19 AM
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23. If it won't look like it, why are YOU making the direct comparisons
to Krystallnacht? And Klemperer's memoirs don't make your case any better than the bolded Caps. And you keep bringing up that one memoir, over and over.

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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 01:41 AM
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31. So why say it is 1937 Germany when it plainly isn't? Isn't reality hideous enough on its own merit?
Edited on Tue Oct-16-07 01:41 AM by jpgray
Why make a dishonest comparison that has to ignore the important, terrible yet different contexts of each situation?
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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 04:06 AM
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43. WAKE UP
they might be stupid, but they're not too stupid to be too blatant and obvious about it. Each mutation of "1937 Germany" gets to improve on the last one and take advantage of the technology, awareness, and conditions existing in the particular reality of a specific time. You really think they're going to do things literally the same, as if following a cookbook from hell? "1937 Germany" was just one of many, many that were before and will be in the future.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 01:05 AM
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 01:14 AM
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19. Oh no
My heart goes out to her. No matter who or why, jeez it's awful. Speedy recovery.

I'm suspicious, too. This may happen in NYC often enough. But still.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 01:18 AM
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22. Here is an adress, that Breeze found
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 01:21 AM
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24. thanks, n
much appreciated. she'll need some warmth. this is going to mess up her head.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 01:24 AM
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28. If I were in New York I would offer the shoulder and the
ear that she will need

Something like this changes people
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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 01:14 AM
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20. I sent flowers via 1-800 flowers.....
I think they used to advertise on her site.....



The whole thing creeps me out to the Nth degree.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 01:49 AM
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32. In this day and age, anything is possible. There are a lot of hate-filled right wing nuts out there.
She's probably the only one who can give any concerete answers on what happened.

Beyond that, I hope she gets well soon. :hug:
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greyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 04:02 AM
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41. Very true, which is why we need to consider all of the possibilities
before making magical hasty conclusions.
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 01:56 AM
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33. OMFG poor brave Randi! This is just too horrendous to contemplate.
IMO-The rats are biting back. :puke:
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 02:02 AM
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34. You damn right we bite back!
Watchit sucka! :D



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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 02:12 AM
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36. For the moment I sent her a get well bear
I hope she gets cards, emails, et al
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 03:35 AM
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40. But you're the good kind of rat! I'm talking about the bad ones.
:hi:
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tech3149 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 03:10 AM
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38. I'm thinking it might be a good time to support security squads
It might be this is just a random act of violence, but I've been on those streets well after hours and pretty wasted and never had a problem. I figure Randi is too important a voice to be silenced and I'll put my butt on the line to make sure she's still part of the conversation.
I'm no merc, but I do pretty good on situational awareness. I'd put my ass on the line to defend Randi. She's a voice we can't afford to lose.
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Cetacea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 04:03 AM
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42. Any updates yet? n/t
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 02:23 PM
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45. What do you think now
that denials of a hate attack, have been issued by her lawyer and the station
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 04:21 AM
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44. Damn
Get well Randi.
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