Why didn't Fitzgerald call Cheney to testify when he obviously

[lovuian]

was majorly involved in the Outing of Plame ...doesn't he want to know truth

??? Why would prosecutor not have him testify???

[DURHAM D]

1. This case is not about the outing - it is about perjury by Scooter. n/t

[spindrifter]

2. Mr. Fitzgerald tries an elegant case...

DeadEye would be an out-of-control witness. why spoil things? Who needs Mr. Arrogance coming in to make bald assertions that are probably not true except in his own eyes? The government has called witnesses whose testimony calls into question the credibility of Libby's defense.

[Jackpine Radical]

3. Because that isn't what the trial was about.

He didn't need Cheney's testimony to present his case against Libby. However, he might now make a deal with Libby in the sentencing phase to lighten up the sentencing recommendation in exchange for testimony against Cheney or Rove ow whoever in upcoming trials. Maybe that's what the whole thing is about. Of course, he will first have to avoid getting canned by Gonzales.

[madrchsod]

12. if gonzo cans him in illinois

the democrats will breath a sigh of relief along with other assorted really bad guys he is investigating and of course most of his staff will leave so those cases will be dead. then you have obama and durbin starting shit in the senate i think gonzo going to be in deep deep shit if he goes after him

[goforit]

4. Why hasn't he charged them with BLATANT PREMEDITATED CONSPIRACY?

[luckyleftyme2]

6. SIMPLE

YOU USE THE LITTLE FISH FOR BAIT! THE TRAP HAS BEEN SET AND THE PREY WILL TAKE THE BAIT1

[lovuian]

9. What Bait just wondering ???

looks like a little fish

Rove walks and Cheney walks

Bush Ari Judith Miller Armitage McCellen maitlin all took part in outing a CIA agent

all walk out the door smiling...

They got away with it

[teryang]

5. Because he's a fixer who works for the inner temple

People stupidly idolize this guy who works at the altar of secret power.

[lovuian]

10. I'm really taking a look here and this looks like Smoke

to cover up not calling Cheney... this is not JUSTICE
this is getting a small fish and pinning it on him

I compare this to Abu Ghahib

the military people did Bush's bidding and go to jail for it

Just like Schilling and Fastow... they went to jail
and Lay got off

[DearAbby]

17. The charges against Libby

are Obstruction of Justice and Perjury. Cheney could not add anything to Fitz's case. Fitz job at this time, is proving Libby Lied to the FBI and a grand jury. (perjury) and he lied to obstruct the investigation (Obstruction of Justice)

What would Cheney's testimony add to the case of Perjury or Obstruction.

you expect Cheney would tell the truth?

[lovuian]

24. Yes because he would be under oath and if he didn't

he would perjure himself and be obstructing justice

but we will never know if he would speak the truth or not

my prediction is he would take the fifth

[Zynx]

7. Because he is focusing on the narrow charge of Scooter lying.

And he's done an extremely good job of proving that Scooter did lie.

What he's doing here is running a very effecient prosecution on the exact charges he brought, not any sort of political effort.

[lovuian]

8. So Cheney's testimony would be dangerous I would say so

to the court ...but this man obviously was from the evidence linked to Libby
wouldn't Fitzgerald want to know more...

He is Investigator ... He investigated and found conspiracy ...

and now Cheney walks away leaving Scooter to be the fall guy

now the Iran war looms

Does the Vice president have this power constitutionally

cause if he was CEO or a regular jo he would be testifying
Russert and Ari And Miller all these talked to Cheney

[MonkeyFunk]

21. A trial

is not an investigation.

It's the RESULT of an investigation. He's prosecuting Libby. Cheney was unnecessary to the prosecution, and possibly harmful.

Cheney didn't weasel out of anything. Neither Fitzgerald nor the Libby defense called him to testify.

[lovuian]

25. Cheney was subpoened

that meant he may testify...but when the pressure hit Scooter caved

[MonkeyFunk]

29. Huh?

all it means is that Libby's defense decided not to call him.

If Fitzgerald wanted him, Fitzgerald could've put him on the stand. He didn't. Libby's defense didn't either.

[Mz Pip]

11. This from my prosecutor son

You never call a witness when you don't know what his answers will be. Who knows what Cheney would say and how it would impact the prosecution?

Yeah, we all want to get Cheney. But he's not the focus of this trial. This trial isn't about the outing of Plame. It's about perjury and that is what Fitz will deal with.

Mz Pip
:dem:

[lovuian]

14. Ask your son if there was a crime of conspiracy after

all the evidence was shown???

or is Fitzgerald just there to get his man Scooter which he got

the scapegoat

Why do I not feel satisfied

guess thats just the way it goes

[JDPriestly]

19. Conspiracy to do what criminal act?

I have my ideas about what the act was, but I want to know what you think.

[lovuian]

22. Conspiracy to out a CIA agent and her company

In all the court case was Brewster & Jennings brought up???

espionage was whirled around too... what was that about

[JDPriestly]

36. Thanks.

[Graybeard]

13. Libby will not flip. His pardon is already written.

The skootster will not see one day of jail time and he knows it.

[Jackpine Radical]

15. I imagine you're right.

Shit.

[madrchsod]

16. it was`t about cheney or anyone else but libby

if one had followed fitz`s case against ryan in illiois one would see how he works. we have seen in this trial just who leaked what,when,and to who. we all know exactly what went on. the problem is that gonzo has to approve of going after cheney and anyone else involved. will the senate democrats demand that gonzo open an investigation? i`m not holding my breathe over that

[speedoo]

20. "gonzo has to approve going after Cheney"?

That's not the way I see it. Fitz is investigating the Plame outing and he can indict whoever he thinks he can convict. That includes Cheney.

[Aviation Pro]

18. Because Cheney may be Subject A.

eom

[lovuian]

23. Thats My HOPE

We can only hope he is because Fitz laid out a beautiful trail to Cheney

and Fitz can indict who he wants

he doesn't have to wait for Congress...
or maybe
Congress is waiting for him too finish

[G_Leo_Criley]

31. yes

Official A. Page 8 of the indictment:

http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/iln/osc/documents/libby_indictment_28102005.pdf

I just read through the orignal 5 charge indictment. Check it out. Especially the 4th and 5th - the Perjury charges. For Valentine's day. I read it for Valentine's day. ;-)

Also, page 21 - ref to vp


glc

[G_Leo_Criley]

32. a heart!

Oh! I have a heart! How nice. :toast:

Thank you heart-giver!

:hug:

glc

[lovuian]

33. Ok I do love that

Congrats on the heart GLeoCriley

[G_Leo_Criley]

35. thanks!

Thanks lovuian

:-)

glc

[leftofthedial]

26. Fitz is not trying to find the "truth"

he's trying to prove that Libby lied

[librechik]

27. Cheney was always a defense witness

in this case. However, I would LOVE to hear Fitz ask him"Did you ask Scooter to lie?" as an unfriendly prosecution witness, but it is not to be.

It is so frustrating to be so helpless about this coup situation. Is there anything we can do to stop their lies and corruption? I fear not.

[Beetwasher]

28. 1. He Would Be Extemporaneous, He's Irrelevant To The Case (Perjury)

2. He Would Have An Unpredictable Effect
2a. Why take the chance of him pulling some shit like executive privelege nonsense or some such and based on that taking the case all the way to the SC and delaying it? Why give them that leverage or that opportunity when he's irrelevant anyway?

[lovuian]

34. Thanks to everybody this makes me feel a little bit better

Scooter will get convicted thats something

[G_Leo_Criley]

37. and if scooter

gets convicted then Official A becomes even more interesting.

Don't give up lovuian!

glc

[Jack Rabbit]

30. Because Cheney would not have to answer any questions

at least not those that would expose him to prosecution.

If Fitz wanted Cheney's testimony that badly, he would have to offer him immunity. That would be totally unacceptable.

The trial exposed enough about the workings of the OVP to make an impeachment referral to the House Judiciary Committee. I'll be content with that, for now.