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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 12:43 PM
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Gore has calculated that Clinton is unstoppable
Edited on Fri Oct-12-07 12:46 PM by kpete
What I Have Heard On An Al Gore Run
by: Chris Bowers
Fri Oct 12, 2007 at 13:23:06 PM EDT
Around the 'sphere, Some people are talking about this piece from CNN on an Al Gore run:

WASHINGTON (CNN) - A source involved in Gore's past political runs told CNN that he definitely has the ambition to use the peace prize as a springboard to run for president.

But he will not run, because he won't take on the political machine assembled by Sen. Hillary Clinton, said the source. If the senator from New York had faltered at all, Gore would take a serious look at entering the race, the source said. But Gore has calculated that Clinton is unstoppable, according to the source.

Gore repeatedly denied he has any plans to run again, but this week a group of grass-roots Democrats calling themselves "Draft Gore" took out a full-page ad in The New York Times in a bid to change his mind


Now, I don't know if this is 100% accurate, and I usually don't like trading in rumors of this sort, but the CNN story certainly seems plausible to me based on what I have been hearing about Gore for the past seven months. Will Al gore decide not to run because he does not think he can defeat Hillary? We may never know for certain, but I do know that if there is any chance left for him to run, there better be polls next week showing him very, very competitive in both Iowa and New Hampshire. At this point, I think that is probably the best way to convince him to run. If I was working with Draft Gore, I would immediately commission some very credible polls in those two states, and hope they produce convincing data showing Gore could win.

more at:
http://www.openleft.com/showDiary.do;jsessionid=999EDEFA9C8A51E5BE07F9A574F4AC12?diaryId=1860

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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 12:44 PM
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1. i think gore has a decent chance it he tries. even against hillary.
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 12:45 PM
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2. grrrrrrrr...
sometimes I REALLY REALLY REALLY dislike that woman.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 12:45 PM
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3. This is the third time this has been posted and it is junk. "Unamed ? Gimme a break"advisers to Gore
We really need to stop posting this crap.And so many time.at leat one is right on this page!
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 12:47 PM
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4. Baloney ...
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 12:54 PM
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5. BullFuckingShit.
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Duppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 12:57 PM
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6. talking head Pat Buchanan said, "He'd be in a knife fight"
Edited on Fri Oct-12-07 01:05 PM by Duppers
Frankly, I think that's true. The Clintons want this badly enough to knife anyone.

Gore's speaking right now.....

edit- for sp.
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DefenseLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 12:58 PM
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7. Pat Buchanan
now there is an unbiased source of information about what is best for the Democratic Party.
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Duppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 01:03 PM
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9. I totally agree, but...
do you agree/disagree with his point about a knife fight?

I BACK AL!

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DefenseLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 01:16 PM
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11. Not only do I disagree
I think there as been a concerted effort by the right wing from Buchanan to Newt and everyone in between, to push Hillary as the best, most formidable, inevitable nominee, because they believe, rightly or wrongly, that they can beat her like a drum in the general election.
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Duppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 02:24 PM
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14. I don't think they're right
Edited on Fri Oct-12-07 02:26 PM by Duppers
So, you don't think she'll knife fight anyone to obtain the Oval Office? I think she'll do anything to win this coming race. They will not beat her. What do they have? Nothing.

Why am I so sure? I was stunned to learned that even some southerners will vote for Sen. Clinton. I never thought that could happen in my lifetime. Yes, I'm probably overly confident that the Sen. will become our next prez, even though I will not support her in the primaries.

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DefenseLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 02:59 PM
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15. It is kinda like legalizing pot
If you talk to someone one-on-one in private, he will probably say that he is for it or doesn't really care one way or the other. Talk to 6 more people and probably 4 or 5 of them will say the same thing. Get all seven in a room together however, and they will all be supporters of the drug war and screaming about reefer madness. I think very few people truly have Hillary has their first choice, but they think everyone else in the room is already on board, in part because the right has pushed her has so "formidable". Of course, except for the caucuses, sooner or later everyone is back in the room by himself. Think Thomas Dewey.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 06:06 PM
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18. Change that knife to backstab.
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Zandor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 12:59 PM
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8. K & R
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Gold Metal Flake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 01:08 PM
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10. Who is the "source"? Shrum? Brazile?
Has CNN said anything complimentary about Gore today?
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 03:08 PM
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16. My guess is Brazile.
I'm ignoring this until Gore says it out loud and not through "sources".

TC


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HeeBGBz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 01:18 PM
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12. He would blow her out of the water
I call bs.
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KillCapitalism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 01:27 PM
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13. I agree.
If Gore entered, he'd immediately become the front runner.
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Tennessee Gal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 03:15 PM
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17. Front runner the second he jumped in.
And big bucks would come flowing into his campaign.

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marions ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 06:33 PM
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19. Well another theory...
is that Gore doesn't really want the Bush Disaster Aftermath job and thinks it's OK to let Hillary clean out the stables... I don't think for a minute he thinks she's "unstoppable." That's media spin.

Nobody important or a friend of Donna Brazile told me this. :eyes:

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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 06:38 PM
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20. A hatchet job. Lemme GUESS- this unnamed source is MARK PENN?
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 06:40 PM
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21. The presidency is Gore's for the taking. Its up to the voters, not Hillary.
Its not up to $$$$$ or big business. Its up to Gore himself to step up to it. This is his hour, and he just has to realize it.
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Samantha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 07:01 PM
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22. Bull
Obama and Edwards are splitting the anti-war vote in the Democratic Party. When one drops out, I cannot believe his base will support Hillary. Whoever remains as the challenger, will have numbers that totally rival Hillary's. Hillary took that "inevitable" candidacy from George Bush's 2000 playbook. Don't you recognize it?

If there is one person totally familiar with the mechanics of the Clinton machinery, that would be Al Gore. And he is fearless. He remarked he would do anything to get rid of the Bush* cabal, and I believe he has worked beneath the public radar to "pick off" some of the chief offenders within that cabal. I have no facts or links to buttress this, but I have thought for the last two years, someone or a small group of people are working to eliminate from this current government some of the chief offenders of our Constitutional rights. They are not just falling out one by one through mere coincidence. Someone or some small group is really working to dethrone some of these people, and very quietly. If Gore is not intimidated by the Bush* cabal, he would not be intimidated by the Clinton machine.

Think about the powerful speeches Gore has made over the last five years. He spoke out against the war, for instance, with an incredible speech, when only a couple of other Democrats would dare to be vocal against the pre-emptive attack. Gore tried to give the Democrats in the House and the Senate the political courage to find their voice by giving this speech. Did they take that cover? Did Hillary? No, they did not but either voted in support of it or remained mute.

Gore is not a coward when it comes to facing down the Bush* cabal OR the Clinton machine. He defied the U.S. Government when the military called and told him not to charter a plane and fly into New Orleans immediately after Katrina. He simply said it was too late to change his plans -- and he went anyway. He went twice in fact.

Al Gore would not be afraid to face the Clinton machine. He would not want Hillary running this Country because her positions are not the positions he personally prefers. After all, it was because of Al Gore that Bill Clinton won in 1992. Bill Clinton's lack of foreign affairs experience and the sleaze factor were both offset by the addition of Gore to the ticket. Many Democrats who voted for Clinton thought the order on that ticket should have been reversed (and correctly so).

And finally, Bill Clinton and Hillary both know that if they start dishing the dirt at Al Gore, he will dish back. No question.
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