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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 07:54 AM
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McCain promotes his “Christian Nation"
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John McCain is our latest, but certainly not our last presidential hopeful to tell the country that a government’s embrace and execution of Christian principles is the quintessential marker that the right person is holding the highest office the land. As McCain said in a interview posted on Beliefnet:

"I think the number one issue people should make in the selection of the president of the United States is, ‘Will this person carry on in the Judeo-Christian principled tradition that has made this nation the greatest experiment in the history of mankind?’ I just have to say in all candor that since this nation was founded primarily on Christian principles, ... personally I prefer someone who I know has a solid grounding in my faith."

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American democracy suffers when people have to be closeted about their faith because it fosters a climate of religious intolerance. However, to suggest as McCain does that an important qualification to lead this country is to be a practicing Christian is an affront to us all.

McCain as a religious person in public life would be just as scary as Bush not only because of the sordid baggage of religious bigotry he would bring. McCain’s sentiment is contrary to the American ideal of the United States as a democratic society without a religious test for public office.


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beberocks Donating Member (219 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 08:42 AM
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1. Are these the same xians that can't wait to bomb Iran?
And have turned a blind eye to all the death and destruction we have caused in Iraq? Yeh, Jesus would have approved of that. Must be great to be holier-than-thou.
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 10:57 AM
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4. Indeed
God bless America, and damn everyone else.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 08:48 AM
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2. And that's how he got his druggie wifie off her wrap, stepping on little people.
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gatorboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 08:53 AM
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3. Expect McCain to experience stigmata near the primaries.
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 07:16 PM
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22. Will he have a hole somewhere besides his head?
:shrug:
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RiverStone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 11:05 AM
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5. John who?
McCain's campaign is dead in the water.

Everybody see's this except John.

He is a religious bigot who has shown his view of America excludes all but those who see the world through his narrow minded window.
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 11:07 AM
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7. He isn't even a bigot.
He's pandering to bigots. I'm not sure which is worse.
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 11:59 AM
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8. I had to think on that one for a bit
And I think pandering to bigots is worse. I couldn't stomach sacrificing my values and (even potentially) causing harm to others to appease hateful scum, no matter what I'd gain.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 12:04 PM
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11. He's not a bigot?
"I just have to say in all candor that since this nation was founded primarily on Christian principles, personally, I prefer someone who I know who has a solid grounding in my faith.”

"I hated the gooks. I will hate them as long as I live."
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-11-07 07:50 AM
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27. But he said he only meant the prison guards, so he's not a bigot, right?
:sarcasm:

Thanks for reminding me of that comment.
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Puglover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 11:07 AM
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6. k and r n/t
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swimboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 12:03 PM
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9. Not only has he jumped the shark
he has landed in the water with it.

K&R
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 12:09 PM
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13. Wouldn't it be nice
if the shark were to give him a bite on his backside? :evilgrin:
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swimboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 12:18 PM
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14. I think this stand is going to cost him an arm and a leg!
:evilgrin:
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 12:03 PM
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10. Someone should point out to McCain...
The section in the Constitution where it says that no religious test shall ever be required if someone is to hold high office, or something to that effect.
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 12:08 PM
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12. The Constitution is only a GD piece of paper
And as long as the religious test is only a de-facto one, rather than an official one, it doesn't actually violate the Constitution, does it?



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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 02:49 PM
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15. The new Rolling Stone has a good article about McTroll
Worth picking up (or reading online).
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TheModernTerrorist Donating Member (645 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 03:11 PM
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16. McCain should run 3rd party
He'd probably get more votes that way
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 04:52 PM
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17. He'd get those of Jim Dobson and his groupies
As long as he promises to hate gays and turn the nation over to Jesus those votes are his.
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TheModernTerrorist Donating Member (645 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 10:03 PM
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23. and who doesn't want THAT vote
;-)
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-11-07 06:22 AM
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24. Sane people who *don't* hate everybody?
:shrug:
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 06:17 PM
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18. Article 11, Treaty of Tripoli:
"As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquillity, of Mussulmen; and, as the said States never entered into any war, or act of hostility against any Mahometan nation, it is declared by the parties, that no pretext arising from religious opinions, shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries."

Have you no sense of American History, sir? Have you no sense of History?
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 06:45 PM
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20. He obviously doesn't
He's one of the Fundie-revisionist ilk. They think if they call America a "Christian Nation" often enough it will make it so.
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 06:27 PM
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19. How can John McCain possibly blow both George Bush & James Dobson simultaneoulsy?
How does he do it?

Senator Lindsey Graham taught him.
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 06:49 PM
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21. Amazing, isn't it?
And what a pair . :scared:
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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-11-07 07:02 AM
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25. This Atheist is tired of hearing the Christian Nation CRAP.
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-11-07 07:44 AM
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26. I hear you
Saying it over and over doesn't make it true, but some people don't seem to understand that.
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