I HATE ALL IRANIANS

[redacted]

(I'm reposting this story. IT'S IMPORTANT. It didn't deserve to sink like a rock in ratings because I was stupid enough to post it originally at 3 AM ET. But it was forwarded to us by a good friend of ours, a U.S. citizen born to Iranian parents who is very upset, and with good reason. --RD))

I HATE ALL IRANIANS, US AIDE TELLS MPs

Britsh Members of Parliament visiting the Pentagon to discuss America's stance on Iran and Iraq were shocked to be told by one of President Bush's senior women officials: "I hate all Iranians."

And she also accused Britain of "dismantling" the Anglo-US-led coalition in Iraq by pulling troops out of Basra too soon.

The all-party group of MPs say Debra Cagan, Deputy Assistant Secretary for Coalition Affairs to Defence Secretary Robert Gates, made the comments this month.



MORE, photo
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=484762&in_page_id=1770&in_page_id=1770&expand=true#StartComments

[MichaelHarris]

1. I'm not sure

that's even a woman, let alone a human being.

[Donnachaidh]

21. Why does she look ready to break out singing "Springtime For Hitler"?

Oye vey! Where do they find these people?

[Warpy]

42. I keep thinking East German prison matron, myself

but her unfortunate looks aren't her problem.

Her hate filled soul is her problem.

[Turn CO Blue]

101. LMAO! DUzy material!

[TahitiNut]

100. I seem to remember her on TV ... what was that show ...?

:rofl:

[TwilightGardener]

2. Come on, is anybody really shocked that ChimpCo employed Skeletor J. Nazi?

She seems like a textbook hire for them. Their only fault was allowing her among the living, in the daylight.

[redacted]

6. LOL!

[Mythsaje]

3. If that photo were green, I'd think that Swamp Rat photoshopped it...

There's a certain alien quality about her. And I use the term "quality" quite loosely.

[MichaelHarris]

8. I find it

very hard to look at and I can theater hotdogs while zombies eat guts.

[Spinzonner]

13. I think she might give Zombies the willies

[MichaelHarris]

23. you think

the have a anabolic steroid problem in the State Department? A little "performance enhancing"?

[jgraz]

63. Sorry to ask, but how does one "theater" hot dogs?

I'm thinking maybe I don't want to know. :P

[MichaelHarris]

73. great googly moogly

the picture freaked me out so much I forgot the word "eat"!!

[MichaelHarris]

38. do you think

Photoshop could really make it worse than it is?

[Mythsaje]

45. It could make it green.

:rofl:

[MichaelHarris]

74. that

may actually help.

[seemslikeadream]

4. Just think what some would say if a State Department Offical said that about any other race of peopl

I hate all Irish

I hate all Polish

I hate all Haitians

I hate all Mexicans

I hate all Jews

I hate all Spanish

I hate all Canadians

I hate all Afghanistans

I hate all Iraqis

I hate all Kurds

I hate all Australians

I hate all Germans



Would she be denounced by the administration then?

[Cabcere]

77. By this administration?

Probably not, unfortunately. :(

[judaspriestess]

5. Satan's Barmaid

crazy lunatic fringe

[muriel_volestrangler]

It's not an Iron Cross, It's a Hungarian award to her

That was the ceremony she was given it at.

It is the Commander's Cross Order of Merit of the Republic of Hungary - which she had just been awarded in 2005. Picture was from the Hungarian Embassy: http://www.huembwas.org/News2/56Emb2005.htm

[seemslikeadream]

16. Why was that given to her?

[louis-t]

54. They saw it in a war surplus store and thought

it went well with her outfit.

[seemslikeadream]

57. duh I should have known

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[here_is_to_hope]

87. *snicker!* n/t

[redacted]

18. Point taken and post edited. Thanks again Muriel.

[MsRedacted]

22. Wow. Thanks for that. I thought it was bad fashion. That Annie Lennox

style wanna-be-a-fascist jacket and hair-do isn't helping though.

Not to insult Annie LEnnos -- I love her. But she wore clothes/hair like that in the 80s -- to make a statement. Because they had nazi-fascist connotations.

[muriel_volestrangler]

27. Well, we can still call the jacket 'bad fashion'

Not what you'd think anyone would wear to accept something from an embassy. But anyway, the bad thing about this woman is what she said - which seems to have been attested by multiple British MPs, and I haven't heard an explanation for yet (not that I can imagine a decent explanation for it).

[progdonkey]

25. exactly, just because it's a cross doesn't make it THE Iron Cross...

It'd be like saying the eagle on the Great Seal is a Nazi symbol because they also used an eagle. Western countries like crosses and eagles--who knew? ;-)

Here's a picture of the president of UEFA, who along with the president of FIFA received the same award last year:

[Riktor]

83. It doesn't matter, anyway

The Iron Cross isn't a symbol of Nazism, it is a symbol of the German Army and remains as such to this day.

Take a gander

http://www.bundeswehr.de/

[Spinzonner]

7. I'm waiting for the Sieg Heil photos before I get too outraged

My outrage threshold has just been plain worn out by the Bush Administration

Still, it looks like the Cross isn't her only sartorial fetish.

[seemslikeadream]

will this do?

[Spinzonner]

15. The Girls from Brazil ?

[Done]

9. Looks like somebody is in for a promotion nt

[TwilightGardener]

10. Medal of Freedom's a-callin'.

[Adsos Letter]

11. Huh!

...and in red zip-up naugahide, no less...

[MichaelHarris]

12. I really, really

hope, for the sake of the human race a sex tape of her never surfaces.

[Adsos Letter]

14. Don't even think it aloud...

:scared:

[MichaelHarris]

17. oh

man, the horror, the horror.....

[TwilightGardener]

19. Now, now--someone will be along any minute to charge you with "looks-ism" or misogyny or something..

[MichaelHarris]

20. you know, there's ugly

and then there's just plain fucked-up looking. That woman is fucked-up looking. I'm really trying to be kind here.

[TwilightGardener]

24. Oh, I know--she's an absolute clock-stopper...just warnin' ya!

[MichaelHarris]

28. hahahahahaha

clock-stopper, that's funny. Man I'm ugly but I should put that ladies photo on my bathroom mirror so everytime I see myself I can look at her and go, "my God, it could be worse!".

[redacted]

36. LOL! LOL! LOL! WOOOOOHOOOOO!

Damm! That's really funny!

:yourock: :yourock: :yourock: :yourock: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang:

[stlsaxman]

93. A Face To Launch A Thousand Ships...

A Face That Only A Mother Could Love...

... the only thing uglier is her soul.

:puke:

[seemslikeadream]

29. my thread got locked because of that so be careful

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=1946298

[MichaelHarris]

32. yikes

you're right. Gimmie a day or two to find a way to spin this. Ummm make that two weeks.

[redacted]

39. SLD locked or archived prematurely?

[seemslikeadream]

43. locked folks complained about where the conversation was heading

sensitive, ya know?

[janx]

58. It got locked because it waxed transphobic.

I don't care what she looks like, personally--but I do care about what she said, as it is supposed to represent our country.

[seemslikeadream]

60. Yea she's in the State Department - DRESS FOR THE OCCASSION!

A LITTLE DECORUM PLEASE

[janx]

64. It wasn't your fault that thread got locked.

And I noticed that you urged civility in the thread. All it takes is a few, I guess.

[seemslikeadream]

66. Thanks janx for clarifying I'm a little old and didn't understand that waxed word!

;)

[janx]

70. Actually, it's kind of archaic!

You know, the moon waxes and wanes, etc. :rofl:

[janx]

67. What was the source of the red leather jacket pic?

?

[seemslikeadream]

68. She dressed that way when she recieved that cross thing

[janx]

69. Well that's a little better...she probably wanted to dress up

in something snazzy for the occasion.

[seemslikeadream]

71. Here's how others were dressed for the occasion

[janx]

72. Oh.

Still, I don't think her wardrobe is that important. Her good judgment, however, is, and she showed a severe lack of that.

[MichaelHarris]

76. Sweet Jesus

where the fuck did they dig that guy up at? That sumbitch looks dead.

[me b zola]

79. OMG, Week-end at Bernie's

In the first pic you see the same guy in the background--he sure looks dead to me. Did they load him on a dollie and prop him up at the microphone?

[scarletwoman]

95. Think again -- it would be a GOOD thing for the human race! She would probably lose her job.

And even if not, I think you are totally underestimating the entertainment value.

sw

[laconicsax]

26. And I'm not sure

that's an Iron Cross. It seems more likely that it's an award that was given to her by the Hungarian Ambassador 2 years ago link (Note the picture with the original article is from that ceremony two years ago) another link

Sorry to spoil the fun.

[WilyWondr]

30. OMG!

Maybe the cheekbones press on the brain and cause this type of impaired thinking.

[Spinzonner]

31. I think Goths have infiltraited the State Department

I have a paper here that proves there are over 200 Goths in the State Department ...

[MichaelHarris]

35. I was going to find a picture of a goth chick

but I couldn't find any with their clothes on.

[seemslikeadream]

51. ...

[MichaelHarris]

75. I know that shouldn't turn me on

but....

[janx]

33. I think I found another pic of her:

[MichaelHarris]

37. seriously, stop it

I'm about to eat some Kung Pow Chicken and I'm worried it won't stay down.

[TwilightGardener]

40. That's a skull, with fake eyeballs and putty applied to it--

like the forensic experts use. You ain't foolin' me!

[seemslikeadream]

49. yep that's her

[janx]

34. I found yet another pic on google image search,

but I can't access the larger pic. Here's the google page:

http://images.google.com/images?client=firefox-a&channel=s&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hl=en&q=%22debra+kagan%22&btnG=Search+Images&gbv=2

[seemslikeadream]

44. This one?

[janx]

46. ...

:shrug: ?

[momster]

41. The Romulans Have Invaded!

Honestly, doesn't she look like she should be saying 'I hate Humans...and don't you come into the Neutral Zone, y'all!"

[guitar man]

47. damn

just.....damn :crazy:

I wonder what Austin Powers would say about her :shrug:

:hide:

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

48. ...

[seemslikeadream]

50. a little less bling

[LittleClarkie]

52. Was that the woman that Wolfgowitz was dating

or am I misremembering?

[seemslikeadream]

53. much flashier

[Name removed]

55. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[janx]

56. How could anyone in her position be stupid enough

to say such a thing? :shrug:

[kestrel91316]

59. Common courtesy would dictate that you put this:

I HATE ALL IRANIANS

in quotations unless the words are YOURS.

[redacted]

91. Excuse me, Dr. Kestrel, my good friend.

I did the first time I posted this. That version got about 100 hits, seven replies, and no recommendations.

Now, as one who participated in several of your discussions and exchanged PM's with you back during the pet food contamination scare, I'd appreciate a little professional courtesy here. Thank you.

[seemslikeadream]

97. The quotation police are out in force

:hi:

[Warren DeMontague]

61. God, that's some hideous looking leather.

And that's just on her face.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

65. I'm surprised she's out without her dalmation fur coat.

[pepperbear]

62. she's had work done. n/t

[RedG1]

78. reminds me of Rosa Klebb (From Russia With Love)

[MichaelHarris]

80. You know what's really funny?

We took a thread about a Romulan to the Greatest Page. That truly rocks.

[janx]

82. Is it there now? n/t

[judaspriestess]

81. the photo projects what she truly is- a rascist war monger

regardless of what the award was for.........

this photo speaks volumes about her soul and who she sold it to.

[janx]

84. US Deputy Assistant Defence Secretary Visits Georgia

http://www.georgiatoday.ge/article_details.php?id=3507

[robertpaulsen]

85. Why'd they put Michael Jackson's Beat It jacket on a MANnequin?

Jesus, Abe Lincoln at Disneyland looks more lively. And prettier.

[janx]

86. I'm not a wiki fan, but there is some information about Debra

there. Apparently, she was born in 1954 and started working in defense in 1996 or so, so she has been around for awhile.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debra_Cagan

[QueenOfCalifornia]

88. The leather

the jewelry

the hair

Not her best moment in photo history.

This pic of her was taken in 2005 right after she got that medal she's wearing.

I seriously doubt that the Iranians are very fond of Ms Cagan-

Also, I may be wrong but, I believe she is Jewish. Shouldn't that make her a little more sensitive to slurring an entire group of humans in this way?

[janx]

90. I seriously doubt that the Iranians are fond of us,

after that ridiculous Kyl/Lieberman "nonbinding" bill.

And after investigating Debra Cagan online, I seriously doubt that she said such a thing.

[redacted]

92. But I don't doubt she wore such a thing!

[seemslikeadream]

98. Do you think these people were lying?

But when The Mail on Sunday spoke to four of the six MPs, three confirmed privately that she made the remark

[janx]

99. The UK is famous for their tabloids.

That's what I think. ;-)

[janx]

89. She worked for Clinton in 1998--Russian Affairs.

Director of Policy and Regional Affairs for Russia and the New Independent States

She's no dummy!

You can read some of her remarks from a 1998 press conference here:

http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php?pid=48211

[and-justice-for-all]

94. I HATE'EM ALL TOO!!!

and I DON'T EVEN KNOW ANY, BUT I HATE'EM BECAUSE SHRUB SAID SO!! :sarcasm:

[WillyT]

96. Um.... According To This, That Was Her Outfit For Honors At The Hungarian Embassy !!!

Notice the cross?

Link (scroll down): http://www.huembwas.org/News2/56Emb2005.htm

:wtf: