The Iraqi Government, Military & Police have had FOUR YEARS!!

[Ghost in the Machine]

Yes folks, FOUR YEARS to train and take control of THEIR country.

FOUR YEARS!! and they still can't stand up for themselves or work out an agreement between their OWN warring factions.

FOUR YEARS!! yet WE keep sending OUR 18 year olds with 16 WEEKS training over there to die. Something's wrong here...

FOUR YEARS!!

It's time to bring our troops home.... NOW!

That is all. :rant:

[Enrique]

1. but the next six months will be crucial

[LakeSamish706]

2. There was never any intention to have Iraqi's take control of their own affairs...

The idea from the start was to keep the country in kayos long enough to at least steal the oil.

[IDemo]

3. Yes, it's all their fault, you know

Chris Floyd, from August 13:

So the Iraqis don't have the money to rebuild the infrastructure destroyed by the war launched by the Americans -- doubtless because billions upon billions of reconstruction dollars have been looted by the crony conquistadors and their local bagmen. The Pentagon knows the Iraqis don't have the money to rebuild the infrastructure destroyed by the war launched by the Americans; but they don't care. Bush doesn't care. The Democratic leaders in Congress don't care. The "serious" Democratic candidates don't care. Thousands of innocent Iraqis -- the young, the sick, the injured, the poor, the abandoned -- will be added to the death count this summer from this collapse of basic services. But none of this is an American responsibility. Not the collapse of the state, not the collapse of the society, not the plunge into wholesale sectarian violence by forces being armed on all sides by the Americans. No, it's all the Iraqis' responsibility now.

http://www.counterpunch.org/floyd08132007.html

[Kagemusha]

4. Excuse me, but 4 years ago - what Iraqi govt, military? Some police yes..

But the military had been dissolved and there was no Iraqi government, there was the Coalition Provisional Authority.

[Ghost in the Machine]

5. They've still had longer to get their act together than most of our troops have

spent in training. I know it's not ALL Iraq's fault, but I just had to blow off a little steam after listening to these idiots in DC trying to continue this war. Some of our kids are getting through basic & A.I.T., then getting shipped over there to die.

Hey, I'm sorry we have a stupid president and corrupt vice president whose old company is stealing billions upon billions of dollars, but hey, it comes a time to say enough is enough... and get the hell out!

The American people need to start standing up too. Very quickly!

Wake up America... before it's too late!