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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 01:31 PM
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Reid's floor statement condemning Limbaugh's attack on our troops:
http://democrats.senate.gov/newsroom/record.cfm?id=284592&

Reid Calls On Senators To Join In Condemning Limbaugh's Attack On Our Troops

Washington, DC—Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid made the following statement today on the floor of the U.S. Senate, urging Senators to sign a letter that calls on Mark P. Mays, CEO of Clear Channel Communications, to publicly repudiate Rush Limbaugh’s characterization of troops who speak out against the Iraq war as “phony soldiers.”

Below are his remarks as prepared for delivery:

“Freedom of speech is one of our country’s most cherished values. Nothing sets us further apart than the countries and regimes we oppose than our belief that everyone’s opinion matters, and everyone has the right to express it. That is why, when we hear things on the radio that are offensive, by and large, we tolerate them.

“But last week, Rush Limbaugh went way over the line – and while we respect his right to say anything he likes, his unpatriotic comments cannot be ignored.

“During his show last Wednesday, Rush Limbaugh was engaged in one of his typical rants. This rant was unremarkable and indistinguishable from his usual drivel, which has been steadily losing listeners for years – until he crossed that line by calling our men and women in uniform who oppose the war in Iraq ‘phony soldiers.’ This comment was so beyond the pale of decency that it cannot be left alone. And yet, he followed it up with denials and an attack on Congressman Jack Murtha, a 37-year active member of the Marine Corps.

“We have been debating the Iraq war here in the Senate and throughout the country for not months, but years. There are good, patriotic Americans who favor the war – and good, patriotic Americans who oppose President Bush’s handling of it. Neither party holds a patent on patriotism. I know all my Republican colleagues would agree with that.

“Yet Rush Limbaugh took it upon himself to attack the courage and character of those fighting and dying for him and for all of us. Rush Limbaugh got himself a deferment from serving when he was a young man. He never served in uniform. He never saw in person the extreme difficulty of maintaining peace in a foreign country engaged in civil war. Ye he thinks that his opinion on the war is worth more than those who are on the front lines.

“And what’s worse – Limbaugh’s show is broadcast on Armed Forces Radio, which means that thousands of troops overseas and veterans here at home were forced to hear this attack on their patriotism. Rush Limbaugh owes the men and women of our Armed Forces an apology.

“On Friday, many Democrats joined me in drafting a letter to the Chief Executive Officer of Clear Channel, Mark Mays that we will send out this week. Here is what we wrote:

‘Dear Mr. Mays,

‘At the time we sign this letter, 3,801 American soldiers have been killed in Iraq, and another 27,936 have been wounded. 160,000 others awoke this morning on foreign sand, far from home, to face the danger and uncertainty of another day at war.

‘Although Americans of goodwill debate the merits of this war, we can all agree that those who serve with such great courage deserve our deepest respect and gratitude. That is why Rush Limbaugh’s recent characterization of troops who oppose the war as “phony soldiers” is such an outrage.

‘Our troops are fighting and dying to bring to others the freedoms that many take for granted. It is unconscionable that Mr. Limbaugh would criticize them for exercising the fundamentally American right to free speech. Mr. Limbaugh has made outrageous remarks before, but this affront to our soldiers is beyond the pale.

‘The military, like any community within the United States, includes members both for and against the war. Senior generals, such as General John Batiste and Paul Eaton, have come out against the war while others have publicly supported it. A December 2006 poll conducted by the Military Times found just 35 percent of service members approved of President Bush’s handling of the war in Iraq, compared to 42 percent who disapproved. From this figure alone, it is clear that Mr. Limbaugh’s insult is directed at thousands of American service members.

‘Active and retired members of our armed forces have a unique perspective on the war and offer a valuable contribution to our national debate. In August, seven soldiers wrote an op-ed expressing their concern with the current strategy in Iraq. Tragically, since then, two of those seven soldiers have made the ultimate sacrifice in Iraq.

‘Thousands of active troops and veterans were subjected to Mr. Limbaugh’s unpatriotic and indefensible comments on your broadcast. We trust you will agree that not a single one of our sons, daughters, neighbors and friends serving overseas is a “phony soldier.” We call on you to publicly repudiate these comments that call into question their service and sacrifice and to ask Mr. Limbaugh to apologize for his comments.’

“Just as patriotism is the exclusive realm of neither party, taking a stand against those who spew hate and impugn the integrity of our troops is a job that belongs to all of us. I can’t help but wonder how my Republican colleagues would have reacted if the tables were turned – if a well-known Democratic radio personality had used the same insulting line of attack against troops who support the war.

“The letter I read will be available on the Senate floor for the entire day. My colleagues on both sides of the aisle will have every chance to add their names to it, and I encourage all of us to do so. If we take the Republican side at their word that last week’s vote on another controversial statement related to the war was truly about patriotism, not politics, then I have no doubt that they will stand with us against Limbaugh’s comments with equal fervor.

“I am confident we will see Republicans join with us in overwhelming numbers. Anything less would be a double standard that has no place in the United States Senate. I ask my colleagues, Democrat and Republican alike, to join together against this irresponsible, hateful, and unpatriotic attack by calling upon Rush Limbaugh to give our troops the apology they deserve.”

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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 01:32 PM
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1. K&R
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 01:34 PM
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2. I'm hoping finally Limpballs will have to pay for all his crap over the years
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 01:34 PM
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3. Give em Hell Harry
Surely all the conservative trash in this country will support you since they "support our troops."
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EV_Ares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 01:38 PM
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4. Definite kick on this. The dems need to make hay with all this
crap. Forget the bs about the senate & house doing this kind of stuff. I say give back and more everything the repukes are throwing at us.

It is time for war with these right wingers and take no prisoners. Stand up and fight.

Forget the right wingers media saying the crap they do about the dems.

I say give the media hell as well. They are doing the same thing over again they did with Iraq and letting Bush move into Iran with another war and no questions asked by the media.

Give em hell Harry.
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AuntPatsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 01:52 PM
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10. In full agreement.
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Mandate My Ass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 01:41 PM
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5. I wonder if Repubs will jump ship and condemn this like dems did to moveon
Somehow, I think not.
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 01:44 PM
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6. ooh, that funny
:rofl:

i wonder if dems wiLL support this? that's the reaL question.
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Mandate My Ass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 01:53 PM
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11. well that *was* a pretty strongly-worded letter
case closed until Reid issues an apology.
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sampsonblk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 02:16 PM
Response to Reply #5
16. I bet not. They never rebuke their own
If I were a betting man, I'd bet it will never ever happen.
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 12:28 AM
Response to Reply #16
60. I'm still waiting for them to condemn the swift boat liars.
Any day now, I'll bet.
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youthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 09:46 AM
Response to Reply #60
71. I'd suggest NOT holding your breath.
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 05:57 AM
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65. There's a resolution being submitted
Edited on Tue Oct-02-07 05:58 AM by radfringe
by kingston (r) COMMENDING not CONDEMING rush... see: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1956727

I guess the medal of freedom for oxy-rush is next on the agenda
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 01:45 PM
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Why is he calling on the CEO of Clear Channel to do it?
The Senate should do it and then take Rush off military radio. How long to we have to suffer with this bull shit?
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 01:49 PM
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8. they're not calling on Mays to fire Rush
that would be over the line, imo. Borderline censorship.

They're calling on him to disavow Rush's comments and tell Rush to apologize.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 01:45 PM
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7. I don't care for this heavy-handedness, no matter who is attempting it, from the gov't.
Edited on Mon Oct-01-07 01:47 PM by WinkyDink
"...his unpatriotic comments cannot be ignored."

WTH??
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 02:07 PM
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12. I absolutely agree. Congress is now babysitting an ignorant public.
He might as well address those who drink up Rush's show. After all, in a country where the people didn't tune in, Rush wouldn't exist.

So our First Amendment is starting to look very crumbly.

And I say this with the highest of respect for Harry Reid.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 03:01 PM
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26. This is the depth to which we are sinking in this country.
Mercenaries are running amuck in a country we invaded for no reason at all beyond profit motive on the part of the president, vice-president, and their cronies....

and the Congress is engaged in a pissing match over whose spokespeople are ruder.

For crying out loud.
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creeksneakers2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 08:49 PM
Response to Reply #26
47. The mercenaries are there because
the Republicans are there because
the right wing propaganda network controls public debate because
nobody has the guts to stand up to the right wing propaganda.

There should have been a vote on this. General Betray Us and the Bush cabal got away with creating the illusion of success in Iraq to continue the war. This was accomplished partially by right wing media distracting attention from the real debate on to an ad by MoveOn.org. Limbaugh is the source of their power. He must be discredited.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 02:19 PM
Response to Reply #7
18. Calm down - they are only asking him to apologize
not threatening him with losing his show on AFR. It's also not wasting more than 5 minutes of Senate time - unlike the resolutions.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 02:56 PM
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24. "Calm down"? What are you, an airport cop? I'm coldly calm, get it?
Edited on Mon Oct-01-07 02:57 PM by WinkyDink
It's NOT GOOD when a Democrat emulates reprehensible Republican behavior.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 03:06 PM
Response to Reply #24
27. I don't think they are - a letter is not a resolution
sorry for the admonition to calm down.
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Maraya1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 12:55 AM
Response to Reply #7
61. I agree with you. It is disingenuous to cry foul at the repub rebuke of
moveon's ad and turn around and do the same thing. We either have free speech or we don't.

That being said I would love for limpball to get fired over this thing.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 01:50 PM
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9. k&r
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daa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 02:10 PM
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13. So let me see if I understand the process
Moveon.org exercises free speech and has a bill pass congress condemning it.

OxBoy Limpballs gets a fucking letter.

What is wrong with this picture?
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 02:58 PM
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25. Neither should have been addressed, that's what.
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Sherman A1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 05:05 AM
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62. Agreed
I don't think a body of government gets to criticize it's citizens. If individual Senators are upset, I would bet they can find a microphone to air their opinion, but neither MoveOn or Rush should be discussed on the floor of the Senate. That is not what we hired them to do.
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daa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 09:33 AM
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70. I agree also but the hypocrisy is killing me. nt
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mandarin49 Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 02:10 PM
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14. Harry and Rush
Wow! Everyone is so quick to jumb on Rush for statements he
denies making. Why don't we wait for Harry to accept Rush's
invite to appear on his show and discuss the accusation? I for
one haven't heard those words, but if someone has the
'complete' taping of the comments, my mind is open. Which is
alot more then I can say for the authors of the rest of the
comments regarding this issue! I generally enjoy watching both
parties from the Independent gallery, but it's gotten so nasty
and unreasonable, it's become a real bummer to watch. If Harry
won't go on Rush's show, maybe he could invite Rush to appear
in the Senate?
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 02:13 PM
Response to Reply #14
15. Please go perform unspeakable acts with a pineapple.
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 04:04 PM
Response to Reply #15
43. ROFL!
:rofl:

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guitar man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 12:51 PM
Response to Reply #15
85. ROFL!!
If he's in Alabama, would that make pineapple sales illegal there :shrug:

:rofl:
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 02:17 PM
Response to Reply #14
17. He would be lying. And you know he'd never appear before the
Senate; he's a chickenhawk - squak!


Limbaugh: Service members who support U.S. withdrawal are "phony soldiers"
http://mediamatters.org/items/200709270010?f=h_top

and



Limbaugh selectively edited "phony soldiers" clip, claimed it was "the entire transcript"
http://mediamatters.org/items/200709280009?f=h_top
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 02:23 PM
Response to Reply #14
19. hssst.
get thee back to freeperville, and sing your hosannas to the druggie over there.
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 02:28 PM
Response to Reply #14
20. I heard Rush saying it last week
You like him so much yet you missed it? OK...

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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 02:44 PM
Response to Reply #14
21. LOL! Rush must have really stepped in it this time--the Freep crowd's nerves are clearly jangled.
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11 Bravo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 02:49 PM
Response to Reply #14
22. Nice first post.
When you come back (probably with a different username) remember, subtle is your friend. You won't fool anyone, (they seldom do) but you can garner at least a modicum of respect if you make a reasonable effort.
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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 02:54 PM
Response to Reply #14
23. Thank you for your concern,you Independent guy.
I know how tough it is to catch Rush's show every day without getting physically ill,but keep up the good work.
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 03:09 PM
Response to Reply #14
28. OK, here is a clue for the "freeps in hiding"
just so you know what not to do next time. If you are writing it, don't hit enter after each line, the editor will naturally put the line breaks in. If you copied it, which seems much more likely, put a link to your source. I would guess that the post is copied from another website, such as the Rush message board, Free Republic, or Hannity.

I don't know how you missed it, I've heard it at least 4 times this weekend, and I wasn't even trying.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 03:16 PM
Response to Reply #14
31. What illiterate email did you copy this from? (jumb indeed!)
Once of those that make the rounds like this?

READ THIS!!!!!!111>forward>forward>>forward>>>forward>>>DIMMOCART'S AGAIN!!!!!!1




Go open another beer and shut up.
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 03:17 PM
Response to Reply #14
32. Here's what "dittoheads" are:
Edited on Mon Oct-01-07 03:19 PM by rateyes
L.imbaugh
I.nstitute for
A.dvanced
R.epublican
S.tudies

L.I.A.R.S.
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 03:17 PM
Response to Reply #14
33. Mom...dad...can we keep this one?
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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 03:41 PM
Response to Reply #33
41. Oh, pretty please?
:beg:
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 09:42 PM
Response to Reply #33
51. We'll feed him Troll Kibble every day!
Plus, he lives in the basement anyway so he won't be any trouble ...
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 03:23 PM
Response to Reply #14
34. It's gotten so nasty and unreasonable? Just now? Did you miss the nineties?
:rofl:
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Zookeeper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 11:53 AM
Response to Reply #34
82. Bingo! The Rethugs wrote the book. n/t
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 03:31 PM
Response to Reply #14
37. Enjoy your short stay.
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likesmountains 52 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 03:31 PM
Response to Reply #14
38. better hurry and get your second post in buddy!
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youthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 09:52 AM
Response to Reply #38
73. Drive-by Freeping...you can still smell it.
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 03:33 PM
Response to Reply #14
39. SELF-DELTE
Edited on Mon Oct-01-07 03:36 PM by sakabatou

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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 03:35 PM
Response to Reply #14
40. You have been...
TOMBSTONED.

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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 03:42 PM
Response to Reply #14
42. Oh dear, NOW you have stepped in it!
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 04:09 PM
Response to Reply #14
44. WATCH IT FOR YOURSELF
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shaniqua6392 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 05:26 PM
Response to Reply #14
46. So you just signed up on DU today, eh??
Well...well....well.... What are we to think of that? Buh-bye now!! Re:puke:
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creeksneakers2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 08:55 PM
Response to Reply #14
48. It would have to be on neutral ground
Edited on Mon Oct-01-07 08:59 PM by creeksneakers2
Rush cuts off mikes, filibusters with ad hominem attacks, lies, points fingers, twists logic, and uses every other trick of deceptive persuasion in the book. A debate could only work of Rush was taken to a neutral stage, tied up and gagged, beaten with a tennis racket whenever he used a deceptive tactic, and only had his gag removed enough to give him equal time with Harry Reid.

EDITED TO ADD:

That also, to achieve fairness, Bush would have to debate MoveOn.org.
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Dukkha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 09:46 PM
Response to Reply #14
52. he disrupted...poorly
Edited on Mon Oct-01-07 09:46 PM by Neo
bye :hi:
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Rockholm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 10:11 PM
Response to Reply #14
53. Wow, what crappy spelling & punctuation.
You FReepers really deserve your reputation.
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petronius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 11:16 AM
Response to Reply #53
79. Is "alot more then" a new Freeperism?
Edited on Tue Oct-02-07 11:16 AM by petronius
It's not as good as "casting asparagus", "unseemly jester", "spocksman", and "moran", but I think it's worth an honorable mention...
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Rockholm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 04:41 PM
Response to Reply #79
87. That was very special one. We should mark it for posterior.
Actually, it is posterity but I wanted to make a funny.
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petronius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 05:02 PM
Response to Reply #87
88. Be careful with those
You just set some lurking freeper back two whole grade levels!

:)
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Rockholm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 06:11 PM
Response to Reply #88
89. Silly. Now HOW is that even possible?
What grade is before pre-K?
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 10:21 PM
Response to Reply #14
56. rush limpbaughs can go Fuck himself
on the Senate Floor.
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Maestro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 05:14 AM
Response to Reply #14
63. Harry on Rush's show?
Why would Harry demean himself by acknowledging the whack-job? Limpballs to the Senate? Are you nuts? Limpballs is a shock-jock. He should be relegated to the E-News Network with O'Leilly. He doesn't deserve to be anywhere near the Senate.
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 05:47 AM
Response to Reply #14
64. How stupid of Rush to deny making the comments. Don't he know
his show is archived? Hell I heard his comments myself on three different progressive radio shows! As a veteran myself, I'M FUCKING PISSED!
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racaulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 08:06 AM
Response to Reply #14
69. Thanks for jumbing in. That is hugh! I'm series!!!11!
See ya. :hi:
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youthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 09:48 AM
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72. Well, I'd welcome you, but it would be wasted.
Edited on Tue Oct-02-07 09:51 AM by youthere
I will wave goodbye, however.
:hi:
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 10:56 AM
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75. Dude, you're giving Powhatan a bad name.
:rofl:

See ya.
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 11:00 AM
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76. Rush=took deferment for a cyst on his ass to get out of serving...
'nuff said.
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guitar man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 11:03 AM
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77. pepperoni or supreme??
:evilgrin:

If Harry has any sense at all, he wouldn't go near rush's show. Flush doesn't debate anyone, he doesn't have the brains for that, he simply pontificates from a sealed environment that is closed to any outside criticism. As far as Rush going to the Senate, he'd have to come down off the Oxy enough to find the door...:crazy:
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 11:04 AM
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78. "jumb"
Hugh. I'm series. Asparagus.

*twitch*
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LanternWaste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 11:38 AM
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80. Ahhh, yes-- the Independents.
Ahhh, yes-- the Independents. The new brand-name for Republics without the courage of their own convictions...
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Zookeeper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 11:56 AM
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83. A caller to Ed Schultz's program made these exact points...
yesterday and vehemently insisted that Ed play the "complete" tape.

This is a dittohead crusade.

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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 03:12 PM
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29. Good call, Reid! Rush should be shit-canned for those comments.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 03:14 PM
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30. And the GOP response?. . Here it is!
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 03:30 PM
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36. You have GOT to be kidding me. WTF? They won't even acknowledge
he screwed up? Color me surprised, now that I think about it. The Dems would do well to take lessons...sadly.
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Jed Dilligan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 03:25 PM
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35. Our government is very, very fragile
if it's actually concerned with matters such as this.
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 04:10 PM
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45. K & R! Get your reps to block Jack Kingston's (Fascist) amendment...
condoning Rush Limbaugh's hate speech.
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Dukkha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 08:57 PM
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49. in your FACE Limbuagh
Pigfucker

K&R
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StClone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 09:17 PM
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50. Rush Frag bait now
Another reason Rush can't get in the Military he hates the soldiers over here so they won't frag him over there.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 10:15 PM
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54. RUSH is a POS and a GOOPer Whore...Look at him...tell me he is good for America? No Fkn Way
A True Hater Monger....

America deserves better than him and his rotten ASS
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 10:21 PM
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55. Like Rash Ass gives a fuck...he is a whore who puts GOP Money ahead of Country
He knows its unpatriotic to say the things he does...but does it anyway...for the Pub Money...Laughing all the way to the bank he is...

And if the Nation gets hurt...he could care less...fuck him and his kind..

what the fuck Tribe he come from anyways???

No Tribe on Earth would claim this piece of Crap.....
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pretty_lies Donating Member (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 11:01 PM
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57. This Is Complete Bullshit. Utter Complete Bullshit.
Since when did Congress go around condemning constitutionally protected political speech from EITHER side?

First MoveOn, now Rush.

What we're seeing is a kind of worship of the military that's eroding everything else in society.

It's none of Congress' GOD DAMNED BUSINESS what private citizens think of the military.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 11:20 PM
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58. no, not so much worshiped as USED----for political purposes. Many think they
are 'supporting the troops"-but not so. They are being used and abused-by being in Iraq!!
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pretty_lies Donating Member (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 11:28 PM
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59. That Is True!
Edited on Mon Oct-01-07 11:39 PM by pretty_lies
I meant that the Military Industrial Complex is the center of worship, not the troops themselves.

Nonetheless, no free person should be FORCED to respect the troops - or to hold any other particular opinion. I certainly don't believe they're dying for anyone's freedom or to the benefit of this country.

Any citizen, even Rush, should be free to say what the hell they like without being condemned by Congress. This is a serious erosion of the right to free speech, and I'm ashamed of Reid for doing it.

Let's look at what Reid said:

"Although Americans of goodwill debate the merits of this war, we can all agree that those who serve with such great courage deserve our deepest respect and gratitude."

Mr. Reid, what are we supposed to be grateful for, exactly?

"Our troops are fighting and dying to bring to others the freedoms that many take for granted."

Bullshit, Mr. Reid. They're fighting and dying because YOU'RE REFUSING TO END THE GODDAMNED WAR BY DEFUNDING IT OR IMPEACHING. Oh, and are the Democrats going to have troops in Iraq come 2012? I thought so.

"It is unconscionable that Mr. Limbaugh would criticize them for exercising the fundamentally American right to free speech."

While Mr. Limbaugh is a fat sack of crap, it is unconscionable that YOU are using the bully pulpit of Congress to condemn a US citizen for exercising free speech, Mr. Reid.

"Mr. Limbaugh has made outrageous remarks before, but this affront to our soldiers is beyond the pale."

Why? What's so special about soldiers that they can't be criticized? They're government employees.

Is this still a free country, Mr. Reid?
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 06:14 AM
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66. Well that should go down the memory hole in less time than it
takes for this thread to die.

The Democrats may not be able to get Clear Channel to fire Rush but they have the power to pull his show from Armed Forces Radio so what's holding them back?
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 07:24 AM
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67.  and good, patriotic Americans who oppose President Bush’s handling of it
What a weasel. He won't say oppose the war just the way Bush* handles it..No wonder America is in the shape it is in.
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Kajsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 07:52 AM
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68. Let's see if the "outrage" directed at

MoveOn. org's ad is equally directed at Limbaugh
for personally attacking our servicemen and women.

Here is a guy, who gets a deferment
from serving in the military, attacking the very core of
our soldiers.

Let's see how this one turns out.

Will the GOP be equally "outraged", here?
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 09:57 AM
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74. Great but where's the resolution
condemning Rush, the pilodial cyst with diarrhea of the brain? :shrug:

K&R
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PurpleChez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 11:50 AM
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81. Could this mean that Harry has rediscovered his balls?
Where were they these last few months? In Pickles's pocket book? I'm not impressed until he (and the others) start standing up on issues of substance.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 12:48 PM
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84. If they had submitted a resolution against Rush,
Edited on Tue Oct-02-07 12:49 PM by Breeze54
would be better than a frigging letter against Clear Channel!

I want resolution!!

'Revolution'



Lennon/McCartney

You say you want a revolution
Well, you know
We all want to change the world
You tell me that it's evolution
Well, you know
We all want to change the world
But when you talk about destruction
Don't you know that you can count me out
Don't you know it's gonna be all right
all right, all right

You say you got a real solution
Well, you know
We'd all love to see the plan
You ask me for a contribution
Well, you know
We're doing what we can
But when you want money
for people with minds that hate
All I can tell is brother you have to wait
Don't you know it's gonna be all right
all right, all right
Ah

ah, ah, ah, ah, ah...

You say you'll change the constitution
Well, you know
We all want to change your head
You tell me it's the institution
Well, you know
You better free you mind instead
But if you go carrying pictures of chairman Mao
You ain't going to make it with anyone anyhow
Don't you know it's gonna be all right
all right, all right
all right, all right, all right
all right, all right, all right


http://www.stevesbeatles.com/songs/revolution.asp
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PurpleChez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 02:47 PM
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86. Yeah. I want proof that Harry ain't gonna just bend over
and grab his ankles the next time Chimpy comes in and wants to do his thing. It amazes me--Bush, Cheney, and the war are all about as popular as an STD at a frat party, but the DEMOCRATIC-CONTROLLED Congress still continues to pussy-foot around, as if the last thing they would ever want to do would be to disappoint Lord Pissypants. Yeah...I know they've made some stands, but for every stand there seems to be a collassal cave.
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