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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 12:00 PM
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Wow, the loyalty oaths are starting early this cycle
I checked in here an hour ago, and lo and behold, two loyalty oath posts are floating around, joining the handful that I've seen floating around the past few weeks.

One has to question why these demands for loyalty are starting so early in this election cycle. Is it because a particular candidate is being pushed on us, one who is unpopular with the left? Is it because the party feels it has to start the bullying early to compensate for the utter lack of action on the part of Congressional Dems? Really now, why is this happening four months out from the start of the primaries and over a year out from the generals.

Personally I think there is a great deal of fear running around the party, specifically the DLC/centerist wing, the ones who are holding the money and the real power. I think they realize that more and more people are waking up to their true intentions, and they feel the need to bully everybody into line. "No, don't vote for the peace candidate, vote for our war monger." "Never mind about those thousands of innocents dying, pay attention to the Supreme Court."

I smell fear in the air from these people, the fear that they are being exposed for the corporate tools that they are.

Good, they need a bit of fear, maybe they'll start listening to the people instead of corporate America.
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wakemeupwhenitsover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 12:04 PM
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1. Maybe it's in reaction to all the
"if my candidate doesn't win then I'm not voting" threads.

It does work both ways, don't you agree? And this is democraticunderground, isn't it?
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 12:08 PM
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2. Oh we had the same thing back in '04
Especially with ol Holy Joe in the race. We still didn't have the number of loyalty oath threads that we do now, especially at this early date.

But yes, I think it's fear, fear that the left is going to leave in droves. Like I said, I think that's a good thing. Blind loyalty to a party uber alles makes for unresponsive candidates. Nothing makes candidates more responsive than the realization that an entire voting bloc is fleeing. Makes candidates stand up, take notice, and do something to woo these people back, you know, like a pledge to end the war before 2013.
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wakemeupwhenitsover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 12:32 PM
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4. I hope that I made myself clear.
I'm in the "vote for the Dem no matter who s/he is" camp.
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 12:42 PM
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7. Yes, perfectly clear, thanks n/t
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 12:10 PM
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3. Please don't expose me - whatever you do - oh please please Mad Hound
Don't expose me - I couldn't bear that.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 12:32 PM
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5. I'm guessing booze.
Some people are way out of form recently.
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 12:32 PM
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6. The fucking DLC should be afraid!
I will not vote for a DLC candidate. I will write in someone else first.

-Hoot
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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 01:09 PM
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12. Same here
Lockstep is for cults, neocons and DLCers.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 12:47 PM
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8. Report to the nearest re-education center.
Obey.


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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 12:47 PM
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9. What I find amusing is that many demanding loyalty accuse us of being "purists" or "ideologues".
"I never submitted the whole system of my opinions to the creed of any party of men whatever, in religion, in philosophy, in politics or in anything else, where I was capable of thinking for myself. Such an addiction is the last degradation of a free and moral agent. If I could not go to Heaven but with a party, I would not go there at all." - Thomas Jefferson
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 12:57 PM
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10. No oath from me.
Loyalty is earned. If the DLC fascists don't like it, they can suck it.
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renie408 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 01:00 PM
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11. I think its because the damn campaign has been already going on for so long.
Mentally, people are in the same place now that they would normally be in five or six month out from the election. Jeez, how many debates have their already been? And the election is over a year away. It kind of worries me because there is SOOOOO much time left for campaign fatigue to set in.
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 01:12 PM
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13. I hate those stupid things. n/t
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 01:17 PM
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14. Yep, the shut up and sit down posts.
I will vote for any candidate that is for the constitution and Bill of Rights and habeas corpus and is against "preventive war" and does not believe it is up to politicians if they are abided by. Any who are disproven in this category will not receive my vote no matter what their label.
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