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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 07:55 AM
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Planes used for rendition linked to drug trafficking
Edited on Fri Sep-28-07 08:17 AM by ck4829
U.S. authorities are assisting the Mexican government in the investigation of an American business jet that crashed in Cancun this week with four tons of cocaine on board, officials said Thursday.

Some news reports have linked the plane to the transport of terrorist suspects to the U.S. detention center at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, but those reports cite logs that indicate only that the plane flew twice between Washington, D.C., and Guantanamo and once between Oxford, Conn. (Bush's home town), and Guantanamo. No terrorist suspects are known to have been transferred to Guantanamo directly from the United States.

The jet, carrying the tail number N987SA, changed hands twice in recent weeks. But how it ended up in the hands of suspected drug traffickers remains a mystery.

The Mexican attorney general's office said the blue and white Gulfstream II crashed on Monday in a remote jungle area on the Yucatan Peninsula. Authorities seized 132 bags of cocaine weighing four tons. Two men were arrested and jailed on drug trafficking charges in Merida, officials said. They declined to identify the men, however.

McClatchy is withholding the names of the alleged new owners of the plane because they couldn't be reached for confirmation.

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/world/story/20060.html

But wait, it gets more interesting.

The plane appears on a list of planes connected to CIA rendition flights.

http://worldcontent.twoday.net/stories/2608428

It has also happened before, a Gulfstream jet crashed in April of 2006 with plenty of cocaine on it and it has also been used for drug trafficking.

There is also the same MO:

Same make of jet used for this trafficking and for rendition flights

Shell companies that don't actually exist own the planes used for this trafficking and for rendition flights

The Iran-Contra Death Squad has never left us.
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 07:59 AM
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1. This story needs to get out there
Edited on Fri Sep-28-07 08:00 AM by notadmblnd
also some good stuff from an earlier thread.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

Sometimes things get posted too early and drop from sight.
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 08:00 AM
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2. Dirty little secrets, dirty little lies.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 08:09 AM
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7. I just wonder if all these dirty tricks are soiling our flag?
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 08:04 AM
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3. my my my
I'm sure it's just a coincidence -
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 08:05 AM
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4. Is McClatchy a reliable source?
I know nothing about it.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 08:09 AM
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5. They used to be Knight-Ridder and they are excellent. eom
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 08:12 AM
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8. Knight-Ridder I'm familiar with. Thanks so much!
:hi:
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 08:17 AM
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11. You're welcomed!
:hi:
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 08:09 AM
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6. It's seems to be a reliable newspaper company
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 11:30 AM
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22. Top notch source.
They appear to be free from corporate 'oversight'.

-Hoot
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 08:14 AM
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9. This is news?
Not to be flip, but I thought the whole "CIA runs coke to pay for itself" thing was a pretty mainstream idea already? I get that the BFEE's connection to that isn't as well known, but I thought the basic premise was.
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 08:16 AM
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10. k&r !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:nuke:


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unpossibles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 08:22 AM
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12. not surprising
I don;t have the link handy, but there were similar connections with the plane which was found full of drugs and with a fake US seal on the side a year or two ago.

Also, when the story about the JFK airport "bombing" suspects broke, it turned out that the prime suspect had been a former contractor for a different CIA shell airline, Evergreen.

this is not the link I was looking for, but this blog - http://www.lewrockwell.com/grigg/grigg-w17.html - has links to much of the relevant information.
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 08:25 AM
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13. The bush administration had to pay them off some how
You'all didn't expect them to keep their mouths shut for nothing did you...
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 08:27 AM
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14. Who thinks Poppy Bush woke up in Jan 1993 and decided to STOP running drugs,
dealing illegal arms, funding global terror networks, and manipulating financial institutions to cover for his illegal operations?

This is IranContra, BCCI and CIA drugrunning all running RAMPANT now thanks to the continuing coverups for Poppy Bush throughout the 90s.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 08:47 AM
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15. Ah, flights to Guantanamo are so routine
Nothing to see here.
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 08:52 AM
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16. Will McClatchy publish names? Any update should be very interesting. K&R. n/t
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oscarmitre Donating Member (330 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 08:54 AM
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17. Let's hear it for the good ol'
red, white and blow.
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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 09:45 AM
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18. Many Florida connections to this jet with 4 tons cocaine on board that crashed this week in Cancun.
We've seen this movie before. Many times.



Who owned drug plane that crashed in Mexico?

By Jay Root and Kevin G. Hall | McClatchy Newspapers
September 27, 2007


MEXICO CITY U.S. authorities are assisting the Mexican government in the investigation of an American business jet that crashed in Cancun this week with four tons of cocaine on board, officials said Thursday.
One of the men listed as the registered owners of the plane, Joao Luiz Malago, said in a telephone interview from Brazil that his Florida-based company sold the aircraft for $2 million on Sept. 16 to a Lakeland, Fla., man and his partner, who Malago believed was from Miami.

Malago said he feared the man was dead because he hasn't been picking up the phone.

Officials at the U.S. Embassy in Mexico had no information on any American citizens being killed or arrested in connection with the aircraft, a 1975 model Gulfstream II.

"We're in the process of a judicial investigation that the Mexican government is conducting and we are providing information,'' said an embassy official, who wasn't authorized to speak on the record. "Part of that investigation is to find out more about where this plane came from and who had it before.''

.....

The jet, carrying the tail number N987SA, changed hands twice in recent weeks. But how it ended up in the hands of suspected drug traffickers remains a mystery.

The Mexican attorney general's office said the blue and white Gulfstream II crashed on Monday in a remote jungle area on the Yucatan Peninsula. Authorities seized 132 bags of cocaine weighing four tons. Two men were arrested and jailed on drug trafficking charges in Merida, officials said. They declined to identify the men, however.

The aircraft was sold on Aug. 30 to Donna Blue Aircraft, owned by two Brazilians: Malago and his partner Eduardo Dias Guimaraes. In separate telephone interviews from different parts of Brazil, both men said they'd sold the aircraft to two Florida men on Sept. 16.

"We are not the owners of the plane," said Guimaraes, reached in Goiania in central Brazil.

He deferred most questions to his partner, Malago, who said from Sao Paulo that Donna Blue purchased the aircraft in July from a company that had owned it for 10 years, and then flipped it quickly to two Florida businessmen who paid for it in full.

McClatchy is withholding the names of the alleged new owners of the plane because they couldn't be reached for confirmation.


The Gulfstream was awaiting documentation when it departed on Sept. 18 at 5:10 pm from Fort Lauderdale Executive Airport to Toluca, outside Mexico City, Malago said. He said he learned of Monday's crash after receiving a call from an insurance company, but had been unable to reach the new owner by phone and feared he was dead.

He said he knew nothing of the plane's history or what use it had been put to previously. He said he'd been a pilot for 25 years and had bought and sold planes throughout Latin America. "Generally you don't know the history of the plane," he said.

At the time of the Guantanamo flights, the plane's operation was managed by Air Rutter International, a California-based air charter service, but was owned by someone else. Air Rutter's owner, Bill Cripe, refused to identify that owner, except to say he was a reputable businessman. Cripe also said he didn't know about any flights to Guantanamo.

.....




It's time all of this is exposed. The rapidly changing ownership of these planes. The drug running. The hollow registration paperwork. The foreign ownership, especially Saudi. Tracking the routes of these planes. The shadowy Florida connections that seem to connect all of it. And *nobody knows anything.*


Maybe Jeb can add to the information, seeing as how he now lives in a posh high rise in Miami.



And by the way, one of Jeb's best buds, Florida businessman Ned L. Siegel, has recently been confirmed as the next U.S. Ambassador to The Bahamas. And what will be his priority as the new ambassador? Reducing drug trafficking through the Bahamas.



Freeport News, Bahamas

September 20, 2007


Seigel got the 'thumbs up' from the United States Senate on Wednesday, September 12, to fill the post as the 12th U. S. Ambassador to The Bah-amas.
In his acceptance statement before the Senate, Amb-assador-designate Siegel affir-med his intention to support Operation Bahamas Turks and Caicos (OPBAT) to reduce drug and migrant trafficking through The Baha-mas.

In his acceptance statement before the Senate, Amb-assador-designate Siegel affir-med his intention to support Operation Bahamas Turks and Caicos (OPBAT) to reduce drug and migrant trafficking through The Baha-mas.

.....

He noted that if confirmed, he would focus on combating "international crime, drugs and illegal migration" while attempting to strengthen the ties between the United States and The Bahamas.

He also was a member of the board for Enterprise Florida, a public-private partnership promoting Florida's economic development. A prominent fund-raiser for former Governor Jeb Bush and other Republican candidates and committees, Siegel was a "Ranger" for the Bush-Cheney campaign in 2004, meaning that he contributed at least $200,000 to the GOP presidential campaign. Siegel is also a former chairman of the Florida chapter of the Republican Jewish Coalition, based in Boca Raton.

.....

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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 09:51 AM
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19. U.S. government interests involved in the international drug trade? . . . blasphemy, I tell ya! . .
all those who believe this nonsense need to trade in their tinfoil hats for nice fedoras or something . . .

the very thought that our government -- OUR government! -- could be even remotely involved with anything so heinous while spending billions on the "war on drugs" is nothing but a wacko left wing conspiracy theory . . . and we all know that there's NO truth whatsoever to wacko left wing condpiracy theories! . . . why, the very thought is treasonous! . . .

these people should be taken out back and hanged . . . or something . . .

:sarcasm:
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 10:58 AM
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21. And all BCCI, CIA drugrunning threads will be locked or deleted - it never happened
Edited on Fri Sep-28-07 10:59 AM by blm
and neither did IranContra.

So there.


http://consortiumnews.com/2006/111106.html

When DID Democrats stop being the party of HONEST and OPEN GOVERNMENT?


When its most influential leaders let Poppy Bush off the hook and now embrace the Bush family as their own.

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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 10:55 AM
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20. Kick
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 01:20 PM
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23. Kick for the afternoon crowd
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 11:43 PM
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24. "University of Wisconsin-Madison alumnus Wallace J. Hilliard, his associates & family merit a post"
(posted 8-18-2007 in an informative thread)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

IMPEACH CHENEY FIRST
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Felinity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 07:39 AM
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25. Surprise, surprise, surprise

It seems our beneficent chimp in charge has pardoned a lot of drug offenders from the 80's. No we know it's not compassion, so, why? There must be thousands of them still in jail.

Partial list here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_pardoned_by...
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 11:54 AM
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26. This one needs another
:kick:
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 08:11 PM
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27. .
IMPEACH CHENEY FIRST
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